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	lizardlaugh 2003-10-13 01:53 am UTC (link)
	I swear, I have seen that exact text someplace else before. I don't think fandombitches is for real. Sure, she's a troll, but I am pretty sure she isn't serious. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	azarias 2003-10-13 03:15 am UTC (link)
	Right you are. http://www.freeforessays.com/show_essay/4816.html I gather that the full text is located on godhatesfags.com, but going there once in a lifetime, where the idiots AREN'T joking, is enough for me. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	panthea 2003-10-13 06:01 am UTC (link)
	Holy crap. People even bother plagiarizing that shit? What university would that be for, Bible Belt 'R' Us? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	azarias 2003-10-13 06:13 am UTC (link)
	Bob Jones? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	panthea 2003-10-13 06:21 am UTC (link)
	Chief? McCloud? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mauralabingi 2003-10-13 06:47 am UTC (link)
	♥ (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	panthea 2003-10-13 07:19 am UTC (link)
	::bats eyelashes:: (Reply to this)(Parent)

	meril 2003-10-13 03:02 am UTC (link)
	You guys are so unbelievably easy to troll, it's ridiculous... (Reply to this)(Thread)

	redpanda 2003-10-13 05:02 am UTC (link)
	shrug So what? We're just doing this for fun anyway. :) (Reply to this)(Parent)

redmoose
2003-10-13 03:05 am UTC (link)

I clicked over there and read the first few sentences and decided I couldn't read any more. I skipped to the comments then I got suckered into reading the actual post. Troll or not, it's not funny.

Stupid people like that make me angry in a completely irrational way. Whether he/she/it meant it to be funny or not, the humor was lost on me. In my opinion, if someone posts something like that, they must find some truth in it.

Ugh. Time to go to my happy place now. Where's that Nsync slash stuff? Pretty boys making the nasty always makes me happy. :)

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	iamtheenemy 2003-10-13 03:47 am UTC (link)
	Where's that Nsync slash stuff? Pretty boys making the nasty always makes me happy. :) ::salutes:: Amen, sister. Read some Timbertrick for me. Or, you know what, fuck it. I'll do it myself. :) It will be something to get my brain going after I've scrubbed it clean of that post. Steph (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	redmoose 2003-10-13 03:55 am UTC (link)
	Timbertrick: Because age ain't nuthin but a number. Oooooh! Good stuff. I'm off! I need some non-wanky icons. Project! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	ruaki 2003-10-13 03:26 am UTC (link)
	I got in right before the journal was deleted. O.o; Managed to at least read the article--I didn't get what the fandom_bitches thing was about, so when I went to click on the journal... BAM, it was gone. Went back to the article and it was gone too. CURSES. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	herring 2003-10-13 04:33 am UTC (link)
	The same exact thing happened to me. Creepy. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	adriana 2003-10-13 03:39 am UTC (link)
	Fandombitches deleted its journal. And it stopped being funny when it posted the entry on marriage protection week. It was so funny when it was ranting about boobs though... Oh well. I guess the funniness fled it when it deleted its journal for the first time. (Reply to this)

schoenschoen
2003-10-13 04:34 am UTC (link)

I noticed they were back today from my friends list. *I got friended, yo! :D* Went, read post, was muchly confused. Scratched head, walked away. O_o

Damn, too bad they deleted their journal again, though - I could've gone back and looked the post over again. *shrug* Oh, well. Maybe they'll come back again! :D And next time, we know to save their rantings!

And, yeah, they were much funnier when they were ranting over b00b13s. In honor of the b00b13 rant, I use my b00b13 icon. ;_; *sniffle* Memorieeees!

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(Anonymous)
2003-10-13 05:45 am UTC (link)

Saved it when I found out it'd been deleted (Yay for checking the userinfo in another window after reading post):

gay ppl deserve no rights
Homosexuality is it right? NO, but even more importantly is it natural? Of coarse it isn’t. Does God intend for us to live in this dirty and sinful way. Another thing is whenever people think of homosexuals they also think of AIDS. And should gays be able to be married. Homosexuality is immoral, unhealthy, and you can’t get married. So I’m going to tell about these topics what they are and how they relate to gays. Morality, AIDS, and Marriage.
“God Hates Fags”. It says so in the bible in different words and it also says that it is a sin. Many Christian and other religions say this all the time they protest and they yell to try and get across the fact that homosexual relations are sins and are going to punishable by death if you don’t repent. God created men and women for each other this is obvious by the sex organs and the need to keep life going. The bible says that sex without the reason of creating a child is a sin and that sex before marriage is also. God never created homosexuals that are the choice of people. God intended men to be with women and women to be with men. This is obvious because Adam and eve are the first family and that is the design that god wanted. Paul the apostle says in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 that Unrighteous persons will not inherate God’s kingdom…homosexuals will not inherit gods kingdom. God did not intend on people of the same sex having attractions to each other. Going back to God and unmonogomous sex it is a fact that 28% off gay men admit to having had over 500 sexual partners. How about that for a sin. So as you can see homosexuality is immoral.
Aids is one of the deadliest STD’s known to man and it is not curable. gay men have more risks to aids than straight ppl. Why would anyone want to put themselve at a higher risk of getting AIDS or any STD for that manner? Being sexually active puts you in risk but being homosexually active makes you several times more at risk. God does not put curses on man he lets them choose him or hell. So if there wouldn’t have bean homosexuals there wouldn’t have bean AIDS so we all can blame them. 30% of gay men are infected with this deadly disease. Why would you want to kill yourself and then live an eternity in hell. I don’t know.
Marriage what do you think of when you here the word? I know I think of a man and a woman who love each other. Then why should gays be aloud to be married. Marriage is the joining of a man and a women to spend the rest of there lives together. How can two people of the same sex b e married marriage eguals love and can gays be in love I think not. In the Bible it says that two people of the same sex can not be in love and that it is a false love. So why should we let gays spoil marriage. In Gods eyes he doesnot want gays to be married. Over 30 states homosexual marrages have bean banned. And while on the topic of marrage should gays beable to adopt and parent. Gays are not the right family environment for a growing child. A child neads a mother and a father and not two moms or two dads. Gays also cant have kids together so why would God make them. He didn’t they choose to be and that is why they shouldn’t be able to be married.
Gay rights. Should gays have more rights,less rights,or the same. I think and many people (maybe not u idiots, but many other ppl) agree with me that they should have less rights because it is not right and it is not natural.The Bile says that homosexuality is wrong. So why would you do something that you will go to hell for. And lastly marriage should gays be aloud to marry, no. They cant love.

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squeakytoy
2003-10-13 06:44 am UTC (link)

I know I shouldn't respond, that you're only a troll. But I just can't let it go. Bad me.

"God Hates Fags" It says so in the bible in different words and it also says that it is a sin

Firstly, let's get this straight. God definitely says that homosexuality is a sin. Deuteronomy 25 lists a whole slew of sexual practises that he considers anathema. However, among them are sex before marriage and adultery. In his letters, the apostle Paul says that sexual sin is a very grievous sin against the sinner's own self because an individual's sense of self is bound up in their sexuality - we are sexual beings as shown by Genesis 3 when God creates the institution of marriage between Adam and Eve.

In the New Testament (NT), Paul also likens the human state of marriage to the state of God and his people at the end of time - a unity of being, which, on Earth, is intended to be represented through the physical union of sex - in the context of love and commitment before God - ie. marriage. It says nowhere that sex is solely for procreation - the true biblical indications of sex is that it is the physical representation of an emotional, intellectual, and physical union.

Back to homosexuality being a sin. Sure it is. So is lying. So is stealing. So is dishonouring your mother and father. So is rejecting God. And you know what? God doesn't make distinctions between those who judge others and those who ass-fuck each other daily. In his eyes, we're all marked with sin and unable to come into his presence. Sin and death both are great levellers.

Mister, you and I and everyone on this JF are sinners according to the gospel. "For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." (Romans 3:23) According to biblical principles, it's not just the homosexuals who have fallen short - it's everybody.

Ever heard of John 3:16? "For God loved the world so much he gave his only Son that whoever should believe in him should not perish but have eternal life." The world encompasses you and your self-righteousness and me and my proselytising, it encompasses the people on this journal who make fun of others both cheerfully and maliciously, it encompasses the homosexual, the heterosexual, the bisexual, the asexual, the whatever-sexual.

In social terms, I do think that a family with a male and female parent both would make sense in terms of teaching interaction with members of both the same sex and the opposite sex - but what about single parents? What about abusive partners and bad situations? There are many things worse than having two parents of the same sex who love each other and love you. I wouldn't choose that myself or for a child, but I accept that others see it differently.

Finally, if you're heaving about the bosom, seeing red, and about to blast me out of the water for failing to see "God's intent for human kind" (ie. pretty much saying "you're wrong about this, this, and this") think this over.

You've just spewed this forth on this JF, condemning people right, left and center and telling them they're wrong.

How does my telling you you're wrong make you feel? Any urges to say: "OHMYGOD! She's RIGHT! How could I have been so BLIND!"

Now, how do you think your telling them they're wrong make them feel? Think they're getting urges to say: "OHMYGOD! He's RIGHT! How could I have been so BLIND!" ?

Somehow I don't think so.

Final note: Jesus sat down to eat among 'sinners and tax-collectors' before he asked them to clean up their lives. It worked for him. Maybe you should try the same.

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	azarias 2003-10-13 07:04 am UTC (link)
	Erm, not that your refutation isn't appreciated, but I'm fairly certain that whoever posted this WASN'T advocating it-- it's just a copy of what was on the deleted journal, for the reading displeasure of those of us who couldn't be there before it went bye-bye. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	ataniell93 2003-10-13 07:08 am UTC (link)
	Um, I think the person may have just posted this because people were looking for it and it had been deleted, which doesn't mean they agree with it. It's absolutely horrible, but in a ghastly trainwreck sort of way, you almost have to look at it. Where's my sporks? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	zannechaos 2003-10-13 08:43 am UTC (link)
	While I agree that there's some misunderstanding about the original intent of the poster who posted the bit that's missing due to a deleted journal, and they're very likely not advocating it... I just wanted to say...I love your comment. ^_^ (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	squeakytoy 2003-10-13 03:37 pm UTC (link)
	Thanks for taking the spirit of the post, even if the letter of it was misdirected. (Reply to this)(Parent)

(Anonymous)
2003-10-13 11:31 am UTC (link)

Erm, as people have noted afterward, I just copy/pasted what fandom_bitches (www.livejournal.com/~fandom_bitches) had written in her LJ. In no way do I believe this at all (in fact, as you say, it's horrible and wrong), it's just that

schoenschoen wanted to read the wank and I was feeling helpful. Next time, before spewing vitriol, read ALL the post, where it says that I'd saved the damn thing when I realized it'd been deleted.

So I don't seem too trollish to you, here's my very valid email: manubai_s (at) yahoo (dot) com. Figure it out.

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squeakytoy
2003-10-13 03:34 pm UTC (link)

I apologise for putting you on the defensive there. In retrospect, all I can say was that the quotational nature of the post was unclearly marked and I - erroneously - assumed you were the poster.

Next time, please don't take it personal if it's not your opinion

As to the nature of the 'vitriol' posted, here was me thinking I'd put together a rational retort against a fanatic.

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	raisedbyhyenas 2003-10-13 06:35 pm UTC (link)
	I thought it was a very good retort, actually, against the original writer/poster. So hey, no harm no foul. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2003-10-14 01:45 am UTC (link)
	Point taken, I should have been more clear. I was going to put it in italics, but after a while it just hurts your eyes. Not offended either way, just a tad annoyed. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sarajayechan 2003-10-15 04:34 pm UTC (link)
	Whoever said that needs to be dragged into the street and shot. Or stabbed. Or set on fire. Or sodomized by a large angry man named Bubba. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: tocomfortyou 2003-10-16 01:50 am UTC (link)
	Ooh. I like that last one. He should wear a wifebeater in the process and spit tobacco. (Reply to this)(Parent)

(Anonymous)
2003-10-18 08:18 pm UTC (link)

*laughs really hard* Among other things, someone needs to get his statistics straight. No pun intended either. *salutes whoever wrote it* Whoever you are, you have just provided me with entertainment the likes of which I haven't seen since I visited GodHatesFags dot com, from which you obviously plagiarised endlessly.

Idiots amuse me so much.

Thank you for copying that over, I needed a laugh.

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