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21st September 2004

4:34am: Return of the Digimon crazies
Digimon fandom has a lot of crazies. There's the people who insist that Yamato and Taichi really were a couple in the Japanese original but any innuendo had been taken out by Teh Ebil Dubbers, or that Hikari and Takeru really were meant to be and episode 50 was a LIE! There's the people who insist on passing off false information as genuine, like the moron who said that Noganism IS real and if you don't believe him you're close-minded! Nevermind all the facts that disprove these things.

And now, we have a Real Live Producer. Really. One that speaks English and typos as bad as most of the rest of the fandom in the heat of an argument. Nevermind the fact that Digimon is planned, animated, voiced, and aired in Japan with a Japanese audience in mind.

See ProdN10 set himself up on the pedestal and yes, you may worship him and take everything he says as truth. )

Various sheep come up to graze at his feet in the typical brainless Digimon fan fashion until Demonslayer starts doing the wise thing and asks questions. Just a request for proof, really. Naturally, instead of giving actual proof, the InsiderMysteriously English-Speaking Producer pulls random shit out of his ass that includes crystal balls nebulous things like "be patient" and "They are keeping us producers a little in the dark on what they are planning which can tend to be irritating, but we patiently deal with it." My Tarot deck would give more definitive answers.

Demonslayer is much enjoying his questioning )

Thread eventually devolves into ProdN10 coming across as a chronic liar (whose canon "facts" are so off that they wouldn't stand up to a slight breeze) and Demonslayer trying to live up to the Detective Conan icon in his profile. Here are some highlights )

It just gets worse around page 3 as the sheep start defending ProdN10 and he and Demonslayer start flinging insults at each other. ProdN10 ends up making excuses for his insults and then says that "As of now, I think that I may be one of the only producers posting anywhere outside the private company boards." And then he goes and acts condescendingly to Demonslayer on basis of age.

And then it gets even better! Poor Nathan (ProdN10) is so stressed out that he just HAS to go to Hawaii for a few weeks and sent his friend Mark (now posting under his account) to do his work (re: make shit up on a small digimon board) while he's gone. Curiously, "Mark" makes the same fallacies that "Nathan" does, has the same posting style, and claims that there's an in-limbo season called "Digimon Adventure 00: Origins." Nevermind the inherent wrongness of the title itself.

"Mark" whines about how cruel fans are and oh why won't anyone believe the producers? My heart would go out to them if I had one. Then, Cyberdramon comes up to pick up the attack where Demonslayer left off, drilling ProdN10 with more questions that receive answers that are either outright incorrect or so nebulous that Professor Trelawney would be more definite. Eventually the questions get so demanding and detailed that ProdN10 ends up pulling crap out of his ass completely, which leads to him being soundly beaten down by Cyberdramon's facts. And then ProdN10 is trouced by even more people who are obsessive enough to be able to counter his arguments.

Fortunately, not everyone believes this crap.

It's not a particularly funny wank and I wouldn't force anyone not in the fandom to read it all, but I figured it deserved a place here, if just for the "how the fuck can people believe this" factor.
Current Mood: Hawkish
Current Music: The Producers - Springtime for Hitler
2:11pm: First wank! Now, this might be slightly off-topic as it doesn't directly relate to a fandom (unless your fandom is, well, cats) but it is wank of the highest degree and I couldn't let it slip by unnoticed.

I'm a member of Kittypix over at LJ. This community is dedicated to posting pictures of your cats and making people squee over the cuteness. Sounds perfectly innocent, right?

The wank began when Raine posted a picture of one of her kids holding a cat. It can be argued that the main focus of this picture is, well, the kid.

People begin arguing about whether or not the post is off topic and should be deleted. Unfortunately most of the wankier comments were apparently deleted by the time I found the post, but quite a few choice morsels remain:

[info]mistressxenobia:
it was obvious that this woman used her post to try to "show off" her children and that it had NOTHING to do with the poor kitty.

some of us come here to see pictures of CATS, not to listen to some mother go off about how cute her kids are. it is very annoying and totally off-topic...


Right. Since posting a picture which contains both human and feline is 'going off about how cute your kids are.'

i just got upset because i was not expecting to see something like that...
i mean, i don't come here posting pictures of my submissives tied up in a corner while my cat just happens to be watching - even if it IS infinitely amusing to me...
i have that much respect for the community members who might not understand my lifestyle...

i think those who don't care for children deserve the same courtesy of not seeing a photo where the kitty is NOT the main "star"...


[info]charlie_em points out the obvious:
you got upset????? my god. just scroll past it.

[info]ramothhe violates Godwin's Law:
If you're going to be all Nazi about it, and not even allow pictures with kitties and others in it..hate to tell you, but about 95% of the pictures that Ive ever seen in here would not be 'allowed'. And plus you arent even the mod. The MOD thank goodness, is much more mature than you are, and doesnt act like that, so why dont you just step aside and let her do her job.

The wank migrates into Raine's journal, where anonymice make quite a few delicious remarks ).

A few people are on her side, however )

However, the wank CONTINUES!
[info]absofrickinlute makes a friends-only 'I'm leaving' post: "The sheer malice, cruelty and spite in recent comments makes me want no further part of this community."

The mod steps in, telling members "let's not be dramatic." It's a little late for that, methinks.

In that post, [info]tasgenta says that "yesterday reminded me of those militants beheading people." (Shouldn't that be a new intarweb law?), and a few people express varied opinions about asking for money (plz halp mi sik kat.)

Whew. I think that's all for now - but a lot of wank over one small picture!

EDIT: Another post, mocking the original one, causes even more drama in the comments. Wow.
6:10pm: Fandom and Politics: Two Great Tastes that DON'T Go Together
This one's only a baby, but the board admin has said it is up for deletion, as it is rather off-topic as well as wanky. So, I am logging it here.

Ecliptic is a George R. R. Martin fan. George R. R. Martin is the author of the A Song of Ice and Fire books -- pretty hefty dark fantasy (which I know from hearsay, I haven't found a copy in my local used bookstore). Ecliptic visits Martin's personal home page. Ecliptic sees a political banner. Ecliptic isn't happy.

Guardians of Order is an RPG company. GoO owns the RPG rights to Martin's books. GoO has a message board on-site, with very strict off-topic rules -- posts should be about RPGs in general and GoO's products specifically, or the admins will delete them.

Ecliptic feels like he needs to vent on the board, and says he doesn't know if he can buy the next book now that he knows. Jeff, the admin, tells him to calm down and that knowing one's favorite author's political views really doens't change how the books are written. He also says that political discussion is off-topic, especially if it turns into a 'Are Insert-Party-Here Evil?' match and there is no reason that we can't all get along. Ecliptic seems to disagree.

Full thread archived here, in case of deletion )
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