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1st October 2004

12:21am: Won't someone think of the fictional children?
Googling fansites earlier I found wank--old wank, but priceless wank nonetheless.

Negima! is the latest manga series by Ken Akamatsu of Love Hina fame, and it's . . . not for everyone. The speculation begins back in November, before the series had been released over here.

Someone innocently asks whether anyone's heard of it and what they think of it.

Response is lukewarm to positive until Snoopy jumps in with "I say it's evil. It's like his old gangbang card captor sakura dojins revisited." Okay, fair enough, not everyone is going to like a vaguely romantic-comedy series starring a 9-year-old boy. The thread dies for a few days until someone asks again whether anyone knows anything about the series, and Snoopy immediately chimes in with "I'm curious as to whether or not you've been previleged enough to see his doujins. You know. The child porn ones."

Discussion of loli-con ensues, including people asking what it is and others trying to explain to them that it's not ACTUALLY child pornography. Snoopy disagrees, uh, kinda?

Oh come on. Loli-con is different from child porn in the same way that hentai is different from adult porn. The only two things that are different is that it's 'art' and that it's legal. And that's pretty much it.

And people always bring up the past because the past matters. When I heard he got married, I freaked out 'What if he has a KID...!?' If Negima hadn't been based on the love affairs of a 10 year old boy, then no, I never would have brought up his CCS hentai doujins. But being that Negima is about a preteen sex shop, yeah, I bring it up. And yes, I'm exagerating to prove a point.


So the ONLY difference is that no laws are being broken and no children are being hurt. That's not nearly enough, dammit! Also, Negima doesn't actually contain ANY sex or even canon romance involving the main character, but we'll say it does to prove a point!

Then the thread dies. For awhile.

until . . .  )
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2:20am: The Shield: Kitty Killer Wank
It's old. It's a small fandom. But it's got animals involved!

Background: This all started when one of the detectives (Dutch) on The Shield strangled a cat in an apparent attempt to understand what motivates a killer. It was pretty graphic and it stirred up some shit on the boards.

I'd have to say it starts right about here with QuaintlyModern and caseylane pronouncing the scene over the top and unwatchable. katymo declares the scene compelling, but with a comedic ending. Clockstomper24 chimes in that he was saddened by the kitty's death, but is confused over the anger starting to mount on the board. Mr. Pointy agrees...except for the sadness part. He proclaims his hatred of cats and begins to bait posters in a not so subtle manner. turtlegirl bites and advocates the rape and murder of humans rather than killing a cat. JesseBaker claims "shock for shocks sake" and Jose Cheung says he had a front row seat to a shark jumping.

RandaPrince says watching the cat strangling was worse than watching the previous episode's male on male rape. She furthermore congratulates the fictional cat on getting some good shots in on his imaginary attacker. Mr. Pointy swoops in and takes her to task and even manages to get in a shot at PETA using her own post as ammo. Jose Cheung jumps in to defend RandaPrince's stance with minor backing from Grifter. Clockstomper24 drops the gloves and comes out swinging on Mr. Pointy's side. jmr states she can watch children be killed, but not animals. Mr. Pointy comes back in basically telling jmr her priorities are fucked and saying he's "silly that way".

sgib recognizes the humor and gets in a couple of good one liners (see last line, third paragraph for my favorite). jmr looks like a psycho by restating she isn't bothered by a fictional child's murder after just posting that she cannot bear to see a fictional animal die. Clockstomper24 pours gas on the fire, jerry cries "Why, Dutch, why?", and Mr. Pointy attempts a half-assed cease fire while still goading the cat lovers by proposing "we drop the debate on the Neckwringing of Doom that Dutch unleashed on the Magical Cancer Curing Pussy of Ghandi". jmr agrees, but only after "I say just one more thing on the subject" and starts again.

katymo sneaks in a funny under spoiler tags, but tasteier and jerry aren't satisfied with the amount of damage Dutch received while strangling the kitty. jerry holds out hope for a kitty revival. tasteier strangely admits a new phrase in her vocabulary.

JackiFL admits to the strange vocabulary addition as well. Newbie plumedserpent comes in, disregards the FAQ, rehashes what was already discussed, rallies everyone to protest, and informs the masses that it was *gasp* a toy cat. Grifter and Brandon snark on her gently, but Mr. Pointy is not amused. suctionprints cheers him on as he drops all niceties.

plumedserpent questions the scruples of the entertainment industry and turtlegirl defends it's honor. plumedserpent keeps it going. Everybody else ignores them.

trancer puts things in perspective and coins the term "stunt pussy". Mr. Pointy continues his onslaught on plumedserpent and is rewarded with what is basically a "Whatever" post. The mod, keckler, finally jumps in and warns plumedserpent. However, Mr. Pointy is responding at the same time and they post only minutes apart. Mr. Pointy declares himself the winner by labeling plumedserpent "full of sound and fury...signifying nothing". Then he apologizes to the mod! Her response? "That's fine, but let's get back on topic."

Fabulous.
6:14pm: Thanks to rabidfanssuck for this one too
Mod at the Maria-sama ga Miteru comm doesn't like fangirl Japanese, or people who 'don't know the language well enough to use it' using it. Some agree, some disagree, commence arguing.

Edit: Retracted my earlier statement about the comm being "elitist". Thanks to [info]usagiko for explaining things.
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