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30th April 2006

2:19am: Points of View is the BBC's very own public feedback forum. It's a delightful place full of jolly British sorts having affable debates over a cup of English Breakfast whilst outside you can hear the crack of leather against willow and the merry sound of the larks. No, really.

Okay, I'm lying. It's full of tabloid-reading homophobes bitching about Doctor Who and the gay agenda. For fifteen pages.

Brodley
gets the ball rolling. As it were. Nothing funny. He just dislikes the gay:
After having to suffer the blatant 'Captain Jack et al' gay propoganda in the first new series of Dr Who I am very disappointed that the second series is following the same trend. The Doctor's camp 'dance' in the first episode was totally unnecessary, and more seriously, notice how the Doctor accuses one of the characters in tonights episode of having fun with the athletic bald 'monks' whilst his wife was away. This programme is family entertainment and should not be used to distribute propaganda for the gay lobby. Can someone from within the BBC forward this to the Director General and ask when Russell T Davies is going to be sacked, Dr Who is family entertainment and NOT 'Queer as folk'! From a very disappointed and worried parent!


TwoBitTwoBit sucks come succumbs:
"I'd love to stay and discuss this but after watching tonight's episode of Doctor Who I'm off for a night out in Canal Street, Manchester wearing leather trousers and a feather boa.
"

gatekeeper9696 lets those gayers know what's what:
"I myself have no problem with the Gay comuunity as long as they leave me alone then i leave them alone "let bygones be bygones " as the old saying goes!! Thing is you have to be very careful these days and i guess like me you don't wish to be branded homophobic? i agree that a family show should not show issues like this in strong nature, but what have they shown... Nothing! they have only mentioned about certain peoples sexuallity!"

JamesBolivar
likes a bit of well-lubed realism:
"Most conversation is littered with innuendo and sexual references, we flirt all the time; this is normal. Why shouldn't a drama reflect the sexual obsessions of the wider society?

But Quizzimodo makes certain nobody could accuse him of dodgy business:
"Not the conversations we have with our children."

scottie84
brings the voice of snark reason:

"As for how Doctor Who "should't" be camp or include innuendo... Clearly the classic series is being viewed with rose-tinted glasses? What about these lines of dialogue, all from the original run?

"Men out there - young men - are dying for it!"

"Harry here is only qualified to work on sailors..."

"I'm a past master at the double entry..."

"How can Earthlings have penetrated us?"

And the list goes on...

It's a family show, designed to entertain on many levels. It does just that: there is no gay propaganda."

MoonMan
is alarmed at the idea of teaching kids about sex:
"Oh well let's show porn on Blue Peter then...
you're argument is a paedophile's charter"

edbonl confuses America with Harmonians:
"I think the gay-ness in Doctor Who is a bit overstated. There is more gay-ness in Stirctly Dancefever then there is in Doctor Who. But maybe it's like in America where they see thing on TV or on film that aren't there at all?"

I'm hoping laurabidingstala is a regular abuser of sarcasm:
"'Doctor Who', on Saturday night, seemed rather rude about the Royal family, especially considering that it was the Queen's 80th birthday this week: I'm sure you can be hung for that sort of thing. I am disappointed in the BBC. You beasts."

Meanwhile, JamesBolivar, GabrielChase2 and Mattphesto get sidetracked and have a little debate about whether or not the Doctor's granddaughter is an indication of a bit of pelvic poker back in the day. Luckily, GabrielChase2 isn't too distracted to realise the real threat to the nation's fine young men:
"Why are people not worried that RTD is trying to perusade youngsters to be werewolves? There were far more lines about them than there were about gayness."

Mightychickenlicken has obviously never heard of Remus Lupin:
"whoops blush meant to write something but was laughing at your post. the world will be full of gay werewolfs!!! oh my god - now thats something to get stressed about !!!!!!"

But it's Researcher3080776 who knows fandom far too well:
"Gay sex is perverted sex. The people who peddle it by way of innuendo or whatever are looking for a cheap thrill for themselves."


And it goes on. And on. For 15 pages.
11:52am: Oh snap, I bet this means more clones.
So, in Wizard magazine, Spider-Man writer J. Michael Straczynski and Marvel editor-in-chief Joe Quesada announced their plans to "fix" Spider-Man and "rip out [the fans's] hearts". Again. Joey Q also shared his thoughts on yaoi went on about his hate-on for Spidey's wife, Mary Jane. Because it's totally her fault the comics suck, you guys, not retcon after retcon after the fugliest costume in the world.

Anyway, the news reached various comics message boards. I'm sure you can guess what happened next.

We're up to 14 pages of wank on Superherohype.com, 11 pages at Comics Resource Boards, and various splurts on the Spider-Man Comics Board.

And if you think I'm going to sum up 25+ pages of wank, you're as nuts as a guy in a Goblin costume. However, I will share the highlights.

GO, WANK WEB, GO! )

Oh, and meet Thread 1 and Thread 2, both speculating about how Marvel is going to kill Mary Jane again. Then there's their clone friend, OMG Marvel Stop Raping MJ With a Tent Peg! And of course, we can't end a good wank without lots and lots of whining about how Spider-Man has been destroyed forever. Or bets on how long 'til Gwen comes back. Since, you know, no-one stays dead in comics anymore. Not even Uncle Ben.

ETA: OH NO, THEY FOUND US! We're such mean girls, you guys. =(

ETA x 2: Gregation vs. Logic, Round Two! (More in these pages.) I really wish this guy would stop confusing Spider-Man with Peter Pan.
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