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britney spears wank, brought to you by FictionLyn's little fangirls
It starts out with someone posting Britney's Esquire magazine interview. The interview talks about Britney's sexuality and whatnot and how Britney is either very smart, or really really dumb. (I'm all for the dumb)

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Haha. Well she may not be a "virgin, goody two-shoes" or whatever, but who said that makes her some kind of a slut? Why is it so extreme? I mean, I'm not a perfectly good girl, but I also know that I'm far from being promiscuous or anything of the sort.

So sad for her. The media makes it so she has to be either a SLUT or a SAINT.

In real life y'all, nobody puts these kinds of lablels on people
sure they don't thats why you make them now?
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but seriously, i don't like hearing how we either think shes a slut or saint and how just because she looks doesnt make her bad bleh bleh bleh. this man who wrote the article nailed why i dont like her on the head.. and it has nothing to do with who she sleeps with or not.

so i really don't know where you came up with us, or anyone, thinking shes a slut from that article or reply posts.
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Britney however... blonde as she is... (no offense to blondes) even though her hair is really BROWN... keeps going for the sweet thing... Christina's sweet... I know that from people I know who are friends with her... they also think she's F-in hot... but from what I know of her outside of the spotlight... she dresses respectively when she's not doing her own thing but something else.
its just getting going now
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People call her a slut and a ho all the time. For example, these are quotes posted by goobahs in the past month:

"she's a ho. plain and simple "

"Live from playboy, Britney Spears possing for the Halloween Cover known as the Ho."

"I wonder what her kids will say when they stumble across this. 'Yes I know sweety. Mommy was a whore but it was the GOOD kind' "

"She is such a ho."

"*coughbitchslutcheatercough*"

"Can we say skank"

I've gotta agree with Litz, people do call her these names with absolutely no basis.

*snerk*
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yeah and go fight that when they say that.when they say that.

this post and article had NOTHING to do with anyone calling her those things so i dont think they needed to be brought up.
too late!
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how taking pictures with no pants help with being concerned about children???

thats what i want to know!
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like THATS setting an example!
That's why there was such a rage of 7-10 year old girls dressing in practically nothing and becoming anorexic a couple of years ago...
that's just sick
She can do what she wants--but DONT go and say she's concerned about the children---did her mother want her dressing the way she does when she was TEN!
I DONT THINK SO
ughhhh
now THAT is hypocrisy
the post really is worded like that with the lines and everything. owie
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now we cant blame her singlehandedly for the problems with girl youth.

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uhhh...have you SEEN Jamie Lynn??
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I was gonna try to give her mom the benefit of the doubt and figure that she was like most moms... and wanted her children to be respectable... then again... i don't think most moms would be okay with their daughter... even if they were of legal age... dressing.. or barely dressing... as britney does

But since I'm allowed to blame her mom then I'll say... if her mother cared about the image that her daughter is displaying then she would have said something to Britney... Britney has every right to say FU to her mom from there and continue what she does... But its obviously not an issue in their house..
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to me, she's a young entertainer with tons and tons of money. period.

even if she were to become a playboy playmate or start swinging from a pole @ a strip bar...it's like wyclef said, "just cos she dances go-go, it don't make her a ho, no."
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and--no offense to all those who live that way...

people outside of cities... are ... weird...

hey now, i ~~resemble~~ resent that remark!
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It makes me mad when people from cities automatically assume that I'm some ignorant 18 year old because I live in a small community, that relies mainly on our corn exports. That just really pisses me off. What, because I live in a corn field suddenly I live in the "fake world"? Whatever, the real world is everywhere. Not JUST in NYC or LA or Chicago or whatever big city.
how did this get in there???
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i'm more than aware that ny isn't the center of the universe... well that's what john lennon said--but i know there are other people outside of ny---but im a very very well rounded person--im not saying ur close-minded or ignorant b/c u live in a small town--i have tons of friends who grew up in or still live in small towns and they're wonderful people but even they admit they're not exposed and don't know much about a lot of the things people experience in cities...

you grow up a lot faster for one... and there's a lot things i've been exposed to... that people my age in other places haven't even come close too... im not saying thats a good thing or a bad thing... im just saying that where you live may compromise you're opinion--the people you interact with, the things you see everyday, its your life... and it affects everything you do and say...

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I still don't get how New York plays into this. I'm all for hometown pride but that's another subject. New York does not fit into how Britney Spears affects or doesn't affect kids.

Ok, so we all agree that it is a small minority of kids who would be so influenced by Britney that they would try to imitate her dress. Personally I think that number is infinitesimally small. Should she be forced to live her life to accomodate that few? That's unrealistic and illogical.

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I compared my point of view--using NYers and NY as an example since that's where I live... as it does compromise my opinion as well as other people who live here...

anyway--i used it as a city to compare to non-city residence and then there were comments by people who took it the wrong way--and i had to clarify it... im not sure if i did... but maybe that will...

and i also got a little carried away talking about it but w/e
nope, still not clear
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the whole just shouldnt have been brought up. there are things only you may understand and there are things that other people might have understood by not living in the city.

it doesnt matter really, at least i dont think. i just want to know how that had to do with the debate at hand. and you explained i guess so thats that heh. you live in the city and have wider eyes than us all i suppose. but you really dont know everyones story to make that assumption a correct one.

almost a voice of reason!

well i did say almost!
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i never said i have wider eyes

and i never said i know more than anyone...i said i might be exposed to more, but that really doesn't have to do with it no... it did have something to do with the point i was making... that kids in certain places, who grow up differently, are exposed to different things, and sometimes they react in unthinkable ways to what they see... and i plainly stated that my opinion shouldn't mean anything because i don't know anyone on the board personally and i could very well be wrong...its just an opinion

opinions should be taken objectively...

i never meant for anyone to take offense to that... but it happened... its said and done

if you want to think i'm some cocky close-minded person... be my guest... ur opinion is ur opinion... and you're all entitled to that... just as i am of mine... no one should be persecuted for speaking their mind... its the first ammendment

is that a law somewhere?

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rann
2003-10-19 02:30 am UTC (link)

Britney herself is likely an idiot of Pam Anderson caliber. But one of her handlers is obviously pretty smart. "Hey, let's give our fifteen-year-old pop singer breast implants and dress her like a slut! That way when we market her emotionally empty drivel music to twelve-year-old girls, their fathers will buy them any merchandise they ask, so that they can stare at Britney on the CD covers! Not to mention all the thirty-something bachelors who will buy posters of her to jerk off to!"
Smart. But very evil and creepy.

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	mynxkittie 2003-10-19 04:08 am UTC (link)
	Ugh. I used to like Britney a lot, but now that she's trying to be more outrageous than Christina Aguilera in a pathetic attempt to regain her star, she repulses me. Talk about hypocrisy; at least Christina never claimed she was a "good girl". (Reply to this)(Thread)

dawnswalker
2003-10-19 04:31 am UTC (link)

Well, she always gave me the impression of someone who got a little bit too addicted to being a pop star. That's not really unusual in the world of manufactored pop bands/acts/whatever, but when it comes to PR and "reinventing" her image, she just keeps writing (figurative) checks that she can't cash.

I don't think the abandonment of her "good girl" image would have been such a scandal in her fandom if it hadn't been her sole selling point.

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diamonde
2003-10-19 07:49 am UTC (link)

She can't change? She did the whole virgin goody-goody thing when she was sixteen, and she's been trying to ditch the image for a couple of years now, because it's ridiculous. When I was in high school I was very, very 'good'. Now, not so much. I didn't do it for attention, I just got older. I was gooder than Britney, because I didn't wear the tight shirts either. Now... um, well, if I was given half a chance to shag Justin Timberlake and Wade Robson, damn right I would!

Tragically, they're not giving me the chance. Possibly Wade has been warned against aggressive little Queensland blondes. *snaps fingers* Poop.

*uses pretty jailbait!Justin icon* Now Justin, there's a used-to-be righteous virgin turned one-man slutorama...

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	Re: mynxkittie 2003-10-19 07:52 am UTC (link)
	Not without lookin' like a desperate loser, no. (Reply to this)(Parent)

loeb_n_leopold
2003-10-20 05:56 am UTC (link)

See, I don't have a problem with Brit dressing skanky or doing spreads. I love Christina, so that would be hypocritical of me. What I do have a problem is that she does these things, and then says that she would never do such a thing. She seems to want the benefits of doing the skank thing AND the good girl rep. If she wants to "go bad" (and honestly, possibly my morals are all askew, but I don't really see being a skank as being all that bad) then she should just do it! It's like my mama said: "Honey, there comes a time when you must shit or get off the pot. This is that time."

Oops. I'm wanking again. *goes and stands outside*

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	soy_latte 2003-10-19 04:21 am UTC (link)
	you also need a password apparently (Reply to this)(Thread)

	redmoose 2003-10-21 06:20 am UTC (link)
	iagreetorules <- That's the password :) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	visp 2003-10-19 04:22 am UTC (link)
	Personally I don't like her music, so I really couldn't care less about her, but it's still annoying to hear all the "She's such a big ho" comments - mainly coming from high school girls who dress in the same manner and behave in the way she is rumored to have. Most of the time, I think it's mainly a case of pot and kettle. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	mariagoner 2003-10-19 04:32 am UTC (link)
	But I'm going to have to stick up for my judgemental peer group in this case. Yeah, we might dress the same as Brit-Brit and still call her a skanky slut that can't sing. But at least we don't dress like a slut and act as cockteases for a living. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	diamonde 2003-10-19 07:28 am UTC (link)
	So you do it for free? Britney charges and earns millions, you give it away... hmm. Looks like Britney wins on the smarts in that round. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

mariagoner
2003-10-19 10:49 pm UTC (link)

No. We do it for recreation. We do it because we want to do it. We do stupid shit like it, and we grow up and become mature adults despite it.

Britney does it for a living. Britney started when she was around 14 and 15 because her money-hungry stage-mom pushed her into it from a young age. Britney is now diving in popularity as yesterday's news because she can't adapt to being a grown-up that doesn't launch into spontaneous strip teases.

And that's the difference between Britney Spears, and me and my peers.

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Two cents of course

iczer6
2003-10-19 04:30 am UTC (link)

[Ok, so we all agree that it is a small minority of kids who would be so influenced by Britney that they would try to imitate her dress. Personally I think that number is infinitesimally small. Should she be forced to live her life to accomodate that few? That's unrealistic and illogical.]

I really have no idea what's going on up there but this comment seemed pretty sensible to me.

I mean teen girls trying to be sexy really isn't *new*, and I doubt that sparkly tube tops will be the end of civilazation.

I don't care for her music but Britney does seem to be a nice young woman so I really don't get the burning hatred she seems to inspire in teens.

Icz

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	Re: Two cents of course nekoneko 2003-10-19 04:54 pm UTC (link)
	The scary thing to me is that two of my little cousin's look up to her, and the oldest is in sixth grade. They also really, really like Eminem. That's where I say Back the fuck up, bitch. If she's marketing junior high to high school kids, okay, but to me it seems she's focused towards younger people. (Reply to this)(Parent)

iamtheenemy
2003-10-19 04:42 am UTC (link)

Also, it seems illogical to blame Britney's mother for the way Britney dresses, but then not blame the mothers of the children they supposedly want to protect from her evil influence.

That is an NSYNC boaord, and I honestly think a lot of it is that they are jealous she got to date Justin Timberlake, and Justin wrote songs about her. While some of it probably isn't, and most, if not all, of those girls would deny it, I think that's a huge chunk of their issue. Especially since a lot of the sluttiness idea probably came from her admitting she did have sex with Justin, since there is a good chance a lot of those girls were trying to deny that in their minds.

Hell, I'll admit I'm jealous of her for having sex with him. Damn. What I wouldn't give for ten minutes in a room alone with him. rwar!

Steph

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rann
2003-10-20 04:07 am UTC (link)

Also, it seems illogical to blame Britney's mother for the way Britney dresses, but then not blame the mothers of the children they supposedly want to protect from her evil influence.

Okay, I'm honestly confused here. ^^; Are you saying to blame the mothers no matter what? Because if the mothers don't even try to stop the girls from dressing that way or idolizing Britney, then yeah, they deserve blame, but if they're trying to keep their daughters from being influenced and can't, because Britney can pop up in places you wouldn't expect her (Disney likes to shove her down kids' throats), or they tried and the kids just defy them, how is it their fault?

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iamtheenemy
2003-10-20 05:23 am UTC (link)

I'm really not arguing either. I am saying that if people blame Britney's mother for letting her dress some way, then they also have to blame the other children's mothers, because otherwise they're being hypocritical. I was not placing blame anywhere, only saying that if a person's going to argue the idea of parental responsibility, then she has to consider the argument from all angles before it makes sense.

Even if Britney's mother doesn't object to the things her daughter is wearing, it's not her fault Britney affects so many young girls. Especially not now, since she's 21 years old. How many 21 year olds let their moms tell them how to dress? Anyway, that's what I mean.

Steph

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	teratologist 2003-10-19 07:22 am UTC (link)
	I always thought that Britney babbling about her virginity was way creepier and more suggestive than Britney showing us her navel and points south. But, maybe that's just me. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	l_s_q 2003-10-19 03:34 pm UTC (link)
	So it wasn't just me who thought it was slightly paedophilic (especially when combined with the 'schoolgirl' video) and a blatant attempt to sell posters and calenders to older men? Glad to hear it wasn't just me. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	lauren 2003-10-19 09:37 am UTC (link)
	Know what? Britney Spears is worth $35 million dollars. She may not be a Nobel laureate, but she's obviously done something right. Not everything requires a Ph.D in metaphysics to be worthwhile, and not everyone's definition of 'smart' or 'worthwhile' is the same. So how she dresses is kind of irrelevant. (Reply to this)(Thread)

rann
2003-10-20 04:09 am UTC (link)

Not everything requires a Ph.D in metaphysics to be worthwhile, and not everyone's definition of 'smart' or 'worthwhile' is the same.

So how she dresses is kind of irrelevant.

Not really. Someone can be smart without being worthwhile. Someone that says she wants to be a role model for young girls and then gets up on stage wearing extremely tight stomach-baring clothes and dances like a stripper is not worthwhile, so how she dresses is not irrelevant.

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	lauren 2003-10-20 04:43 am UTC (link)
	Mmm. Brilliant. So do the Morality Police just get really good benefits, or what? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: rann 2003-10-20 04:47 am UTC (link)
	Okay! (Reply to this)(Parent)

teratologist
2003-10-20 05:59 am UTC (link)

As an aside, when the hell did stomachs get re-defined as dirty? The stomach isn't a genital, it isn't in the 'bathing suit zone', and I for one can't see what's supposed to be dirty about seeing the stomach exposed on a person of any age or gender, any more than the shoulder or knee. It bugs me that people freak out about children exposing the stomach - I can't help but feel that that makes it dirtier than it would otherwise be.

Now, the plumber's butt you see on kids these days, I could live without. But still. It's none of my business how they want to dress.

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rann
2003-10-20 06:13 am UTC (link)

As an aside, when the hell did stomachs get re-defined as dirty?

Well, I'm not saying it is. I'm not like "OMG, stomach!" n.n;;; The bare midriff is more a part of the entire whole that includes the skintight plastic-whatever halter top, pants that look like they're sprayed on, and doing a little squat and grind of her hips, which would be fine if she were starring in a porno, but when she's doing it on stage after giving a magazine interview saying she wants to be a role model for little girls, no so much the appropriate.

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	teratologist 2003-10-20 08:23 am UTC (link)
	Not you so much. It just seems like I've seen a lot of OMG stomach!!! around lately, and you reminded me of it. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: rann 2003-10-20 08:30 am UTC (link)
	Ahhhh. I like stomachs. Stomachs are nice. Mink, from Dragon Half, has an AMAZING stomach. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	lynstraine 2003-10-20 07:14 pm UTC (link)
	Don't most anime characters have amazing stomachs? XB (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: rann 2003-10-20 08:15 pm UTC (link)
	Not particularly, really. o.o (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	lynstraine 2003-10-21 04:07 am UTC (link)
	I suppose it always seemed that they tended to have fairly idealized bodies in general :3; (so, nice legs, bottoms, breasts, waists, stomachs, so on.) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: rann 2003-10-21 04:11 am UTC (link)
	Well, yeah, but they rarely have any DETAIL put into their stomachs. There's one particularly nice close-up of Mink's stomach during the OAVs... ... It inspired many a naughty thought. (Reply to this)(Parent)

pipssister
2003-10-19 07:00 pm UTC (link)

The only thing that bothers me about Britney Spears is that when she was in her "good girl" phase she was marketed to young girls. There were Barbies, pink accessories, etc. all looking like Britney Spears. And now her songs have gotten more and more sexual and I just keep thinking "PR wants SIX YEAR OLDS?" to see this?

Mind you, I don't mind pop stars being sexual (I love old Madonna). And while I think Britney herself is a little on the dumb side (her comment about the Sundance film festival sucking because they had movies that "made you think"), I don't really have a big problem with her. It's the marketing that annoys me.

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	iamtheenemy 2003-10-19 09:06 pm UTC (link)
	(her comment about the Sundance film festival sucking because they had movies that "made you think") ::giggles:: And how she was so excited to remake "I Love Rock and Roll" because she's a big Pat Benatar fan. Steph (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	madelfdisease 2003-10-21 11:06 pm UTC (link)
	Did she actually say that? I was all neutral on her until I read that. Damn heathen! (Reply to this)(Parent)

iczer6
2003-10-19 09:27 pm UTC (link)

[And now her songs have gotten more and more sexual and I just keep thinking "PR wants SIX YEAR OLDS?" to see this?]

I doubt that. Who kids idolize is really up to them. If a little girl likes Britney and wants to be like her there's really nothing you can do except hope that like most fads with kids, it'll pass.

I seriously doubt Britney's PR is trying to get six year olds to have sex. If a six year is dressing in a way that's not appropriate that's more because her parents LET her, and not because of Britney's Evil Mind-Control powers.

Icz

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pipssister
2003-10-19 10:00 pm UTC (link)

I doubt that. Who kids idolize is really up to them. If a little girl likes Britney and wants to be like her there's really nothing you can do except hope that like most fads with kids, it'll pass.

I'd agree with you, but early on in her career, she was clearly marketed to little kids. She appeared on Nickelodeon, they made Barbies of her, etc. That's clearly hyping to the younger crowd. To her credit, that's been happening a lot less lately (I don't see Britney Barbies anymore) but it's made an effect.

I seriously doubt Britney's PR is trying to get six year olds to have sex.

What the-? Where did I say that? I didn't even imply that. I was talking about her lyrics and videos being sexual, despite the fact that she was originally marketed to children. I'm not one of those yahoos who believe kids will do anything they see on TV. I certainly don't think that her videos or dress style is encouraging children to have sex.

If a six year is dressing in a way that's not appropriate that's more because her parents LET her, and not because of Britney's Evil Mind-Control powers.

I didn't bring up kids dressing in a sexual manner, either. You're right, that is the parents' fault. Nor do I believe Britney's "Evil Mind-Control powers" have anything to do with whether kids like her. I blame the initial marketing.

That's what bothers me, not Britney herself. It's the way she was originally marketed. And I DO believe she was initially marketed (at least in part) to kids. Frankly, she can sing what she wants, dress the way she wants, and do whatever she wants and I wouldn't care. I just find the marketing distatsteful.

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tempslut
2003-10-19 10:33 pm UTC (link)

"And now her songs have gotten more and more sexual and I just keep thinking 'PR wants SIX YEAR OLDS?' to see this?"

Last summer, I worked at a day camp, and none of the girls there liked her. Whenever the topic of Britney came up, the general response was "I don't like her" and "She's stupid."

I'm sure there are some six-year-olds out there who might still like her, but if that sample was any indication, I think her core audience has abandoned her.

On another note? Unless she's being sponsored by Auto Zone this time around, Get in the Zone is the Lamest. Album. Title. Ever.

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(Anonymous)
2003-10-19 08:14 pm UTC (link)

You can't say Britney's *either* dumb *or* smart. We all do dumb things every once in a while, but it doesn't make us fundamentally stupid.

Sure the girl has said some pretty idiotic things, like telling the press she was a virgin and making that her marketing focus? A Very Dumb Thing To Do, no doubt about it. She talked herself into a corner with that one and now she can't get out of it with out being called a hypocrite (and losing fans).

Personally I have no problem with Britney. I'm sure she's a sweet girl who just seams to let herself be pushed around too much. I just wish she'd just stand up for herself, for real. Not this "I'm a sexual person to, watch me go wild on you" shit, because as much as they’re trying to sell it, I just don't buy it. If they’re looking for a new image for her, they should choose one more fit for her, because I just don't think she's got the attitude to pull the "sexy independent woman" one off. She should just leave that to Madonna and Christina.

Oh and:

[Know what? Britney Spears is worth $35 million dollars. She may not be a Nobel laureate, but she's obviously done something right. Not everything requires a Ph.D in metaphysics to be worthwhile, and not everyone's definition of 'smart' or 'worthwhile' is the same.]

You can call it as smart as you want to, but I’d still never do what she does.

a.j

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