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amakath, 2003-10-23 08:56 am UTC

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rann, 2003-10-24 02:25 am UTC

"Do not mock comics, for comics are my life! (Yes I'm a loser.)"

terminal_frost
2003-10-23 06:49 am UTC (link)

Sure, it's faster to type "Supes" instead of "Superman" -- tho the accumulated fractions of a second one would add to ones free time by doing this seem to me not entirely worthy of the lack of respect inherent in using such abreviations.

Notice the man complaining of abreviating a superhero's name is using abreviations himself. Hypocritical much?

It's all about respect . These nicknames diminish the characters. They strip them of dignity. They whittle away the (already fragile) reality of the tales.

You sure your grip on reality is as firm as you claim it to be, or have you been greasing your hands again?

Seriously -- would you call Batman "Bats" to his face? Even Superman, who is a much more "approachable" kind of guy -- if he were real, would you actually feel comfortable addressing him as "Supes"?

The world will truly come to an end if we all start giving superheroes cutesy nicknames (and that's assuming that Batman is even a superhero to begin with. I thought to be a superhero meant you had super powers..)..

rann
2003-10-23 07:02 am UTC (link)

(and that's assuming that Batman is even a superhero to begin with. I thought to be a superhero meant you had super powers..)

Nope. Basically, to qualify as a superhero, you've just got to go above and beyond what's expected from "everyday" heroes such as cops, firemen, etc. You expect heroism such as going into a burning building to save a little girl... going into a burning building, having a fistfight with the guy that set the fire, then dragging him AND the little girl out, all while dressed really cool, qualifies you as a superhero.

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trismegistus, 2003-10-24 12:32 am UTC

Re: "Do not mock comics, for comics are my life! (Yes I'm a loser.)"
ataniell93
2003-10-23 11:00 am UTC (link)

Oddly enough, I have been the recipient of this same sort of flame.

I think most of you guys know that I write HP fics, all Slytherin and Death Eater oriented stuff. I have been known to refer to my muses/characters/etc by a number of nicknames.

For instance, Moody is the Paranoid Dratsab, Mulciber is the Little Tyrant (actually, Moody nicknamed him that), and the Lucius in my "House of Ill Faith" series is the Unseelie Crackbaby (because he is just like "Lightningwar" Lucius, except that his brain is broke).

Well, I am in the habit of referring to Voldemort as "Bad Tommy".

Faith Accompli finds this offensive.

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Re: "Do not mock comics, for comics are my life! (Yes I'm a loser.)" - (Anonymous), 2003-10-24 12:14 am UTC

	Re: "Do not mock comics, for comics are my life! (Yes I'm a loser.)" lots42 2003-10-23 01:13 pm UTC (link)
	Eh, Bats and Supes would probably be really annoyed by cutesy nicknames. Which would be absolutely the right reason -to- use them. Bring them down a peg. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

rann, 2003-10-23 01:46 pm UTC

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stubbleglitter
2003-10-23 07:10 am UTC (link)

With all they have given you, in all these years, haven't they earned at least that much respect?

They sure have, Johnny boy! But rather than showing my respect by spelling out "Batman" each and every time, I prefer to show it by writing about Bruce fucking Dick whenever he feels like it! I think he'd thank me for that, because Nightwing's pretty hot.

And hey, your bad spelling makes Superman cry.

	rann 2003-10-23 07:12 am UTC (link)
	Please. And how's that supposed to make Tim feel, huh? Maybe it's respectful of Batman, but how's Robin supposed to feel about this? Where's the respect for the sidekick in Christmas colors? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	sorchar 2003-10-23 09:17 am UTC (link)
	But rather than showing my respect by spelling out "Batman" each and every time, I prefer to show it by writing about Bruce fucking Dick whenever he feels like it! I think he'd thank me for that, because Nightwing's pretty hot. I'd thank you for it too, if you could tell me where you have these stories posted. bounces (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2003-10-24 01:58 am UTC

In my day we called him MISTER Batman!

amakath
2003-10-23 07:47 am UTC (link)

Kids today, with their calling Batman "Bats", and their big pants, and colored chalk, and their Neve Campbell, and their fanny packs, and their nerf balls, and their listening to the No Doubts, and their Pong, and their Volkswagen Golf leases, and their notebooks, and the kids with your pierced I-dont-know-whats, and their roller skates, and their 23-skidoos, and their listening to the Becks....

	Re: In my day we called him MISTER Batman! musette 2003-10-23 08:01 am UTC (link)
	God dammit I just hurt myself laughing. Four stars. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	Re: In my day we called him MISTER Batman! rowan 2003-10-23 09:34 pm UTC (link)
	I love you. :D Long live MST3K! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	Re: In my day we called him MISTER Batman! darqstar 2003-10-24 12:20 am UTC (link)
	I just had to make this... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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gaisce
2003-10-23 08:00 am UTC (link)

Oh, ~~Byrnie~~ ~~Byrn-Byrn~~ ~~Byrniekins~~ John Byrne, how your wanking has grown to surpass even mutated X-Men Austin wank.

Seriously -- would you call Batman "Bats" to his face? Even Superman, who is a much more "approachable" kind of guy -- if he were real, would you actually feel comfortable addressing him as "Supes"?

Why, yes. Yes I would. Then I would put on spandex and try to rob the first national bank out of respect for the gravity of the superhero genre, because we must take it so serious that shortened names are blasphemy and disrespectful even though it's being used in canon.

Quick, get me my wank gun!

terminal_frost
2003-10-23 08:23 am UTC (link)

we must take it so serious that shortened names are blasphemy and disrespectful even though it's being used in canon.

Not to mention that they do it in the movies (at least the Batman movies) too.

Oh wait; I forgot. Movies are a blasphemy and a sell-out that's pandering itself to an unappreciative audience who wouldn't care either way so long as the Hawt Boi of the Month was in it, and thus are a slap in the face of the Holy Scriptures that are Comic Book Canon. (This spoken while conveniently overlooking the fact that comic book universes tend to reinvent themselves in some way every decade or so.)

Quick, get me my wank gun!

Just reach down; can't be too hard to find...

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	amakath 2003-10-23 08:26 am UTC (link)
	Quick, get me my wank gun! Pfft. Wank gun. All the real wankers have got a wank ray. When you think about it, it's almost like dueling wank. Austen thinks we're all a bunch of tightass whiners who take this shit too seriously, and Byrne thinks we're all a bunch of punk kids who don't take it seriously enough. It's like the Wanky Generation Gap. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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redhead, 2003-10-24 06:52 pm UTC

	Johnny-boy? Some of us DO remember your older work... redpanda 2003-10-23 09:09 am UTC (link)
	What amuses the fuck out of me is that this is the same guy who saddled She-Hulk with the stupid nickname "Shulkie," or at very least super-glued it across her massive green breasts for all eternity. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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rebeccasama
2003-10-23 09:52 am UTC (link)

The Comic Shop Guy on "The Simpsons" did not spring fully grown from Zeus' head.

I do so love the "you're perpetuating stereotypes!" mini rant within this wank. I especially like the person who said that LOTR fans don't make up abbreviated names. (Being a LOTR fan, I beg to differ.)

I especially like that point about how people who dress up in costume to go to conventions and have the gall to leave the convention and go to McDonald's or something are perpetuating the stereotype that .... what? Someone went to a con? I think if one was to walk into a resteraunt in a Superman costume, there might be a few looks but most people would be able to figure out that this was not daily attire. And some people think that fans of anything, (comic books, LOTR, Star Trek), are wierd to begin with... so is there really a point to "what is the rest of the world going to think of us?!" view? *cue eyeroll*

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	lots42 2003-10-23 01:07 pm UTC (link)
	Oh...the wank. Byrne used to have a forum on AOL. He'd get into such hoooorrible pissing matches with Peter David, who also has an AOL board. Wank covered the earth... Both of them write wonderful stories and are intelligent men...until their hot buttons are poked then they turn into wank-fountains. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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virago
2003-10-23 04:14 pm UTC (link)

Yes, having too-cute nicknames is a bit annoying if people are using them while gushing like fangirls, but please. "Already flimsy reality"? Um...

Besides, this guy wouldn't last three days in the anime/gaming fandom. We're talking fangirls who routinely call ubervillains with the power to crush the earth names that probably translate to something like "Snugglypoobear."

Not to diminish the mighty wank power of comic fandom, buuuut... at least your wank isn't sparkly and speckled with "WAIIII~!!!!!!".

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	phosfate 2003-10-23 04:44 pm UTC (link)
	Says the man who gave the world Babe and </i>Next Men.</i> Fuck you, Byrnsie. (Reply to this)

	pipssister 2003-10-23 07:09 pm UTC (link)
	Shut up, John Byrne! You ruined Spidey. AND I'LL CALL HIM SPIDEY IF I FREAKING WANT TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	sewingmyfish 2003-10-23 08:58 pm UTC (link)
	opens up comic book Hey Bats, Sups! How's it going? Still stuffing your tights with super socks? waits for response Hmmm, funny, the ink doesn't seem to care what I call it. (Reply to this)

	snacky 2003-10-23 09:15 pm UTC (link)
	Seriously -- would you call Batman "Bats" to his face? DOODZ! Batman is REAL? How did I miss this? Why have you all been keeping this from me? (Reply to this)(Thread)

onetrickpony, 2003-10-23 09:49 pm UTC

My brain hurts.

darqstar
2003-10-23 11:59 pm UTC (link)

*Looks, blinks, looks again, blinks again, keeps looking,*

Damn it, it hasn't changed. It's still the stupidest argument I've ever seen.

Talk about dividing factors. God knows comic fans take enough grief once they pass through puberty, for not being "adults" and putting "The kiddie books away now." But now here comes Byrne's to tell us how to be "proper" fans, indicating that there is a further "inner circle" of true comic fans that "know how to mind their manners around these fictional characters."

What next? A uniform? "Okay, if you wear the GREEN spandex, you're cool. If you wear the PURPLE spandex, that means U suck!"

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darqstar, 2003-10-24 08:37 pm UTC

Re: My brain hurts. - (Anonymous), 2003-10-24 12:31 pm UTC

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