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	biichan 2003-10-29 04:35 am UTC (link)
	sighs, rolls eyes And what the hell is WRONG with spelling magick with a 'k'? I really, REALLY don't get that. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	amasaglajax 2003-10-29 06:21 am UTC (link)
	loves your icon long time (Reply to this)(Parent)

ataniell93
2003-10-30 01:00 am UTC (link)

A lot of people don't realize that it originated with Crowley and that there is a reason for it. Including, like, more than half of the people who do it that way today.

So, some people are turned off by the way we spell it because they have run across a lot of idiotic posers who threw it around a lot.

Like the guy down below who told one of the posters that he had killed someone with 'magick' and used it to have teh sexx with young girls. Baaaaaaaaaaaka.

I mean, I think it's *possible* but I think anyone who knew enough to actually DO it would be smart enough not to brag about it.

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	biichan 2003-10-29 04:36 am UTC (link)
	Also, do we get a link? (Reply to this)

	rowan 2003-10-29 04:52 am UTC (link)
	ED IS one hell of a wankfest. That's why I never go in there. Or anywhere except where having a firm grasp on sanity and literacy is a requirement. O_o (Which would be, as far as I can tell, one forum. ONE.) and hey, I like my avatar. ;) But it is one hell of a server load. boots Rufus, for he is going slowly Still, I play on Gaia probably too much for my own good... oh well. (Reply to this)

	dawnswalker 2003-10-29 05:14 am UTC (link)
	Cuntwaffles! Now availible at a Denny's near you! (Reply to this)(Thread)

	telesilla 2003-10-29 06:06 am UTC (link)
	Part of this complete breakfast. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	eljuno 2003-10-29 06:07 am UTC (link)
	They're cunnilingilicious! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	smo 2003-10-29 08:52 pm UTC (link)
	Try them with Mrs. Pussyworth's syrup! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	telesilla 2003-10-29 05:29 am UTC (link)
	Is it just me or does the link you provide lead everyone back to the f_w post? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	eljuno 2003-10-29 05:34 am UTC (link)
	You see a link? Where is this work of black magic? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	telesilla 2003-10-29 05:39 am UTC (link)
	"Magick Real or Just Not?" is linked but back to this post. I should say I'm not pointing and laughing because this is so the kind of thing I've done all too many times. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	melannen 2003-10-29 06:43 am UTC (link)
	Magick!!!1!! . . . and I'm not finding a link on the title, either. (Reply to this)(Parent)

rebeccasama
2003-10-29 06:05 am UTC (link)

*waits patiently for the link* I've actually seen some wank before (even real life wank) about magic vs. magick. Most of the Pagans I know spell it magick to differentiate between the more hocus pocus-y stuff (at least that's how it was explained to me). I don't think people will ever stop wanking on the topic, though. I have seen some Pagans throw a huge hissy fit if the K is omitted.

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amasaglajax
2003-10-29 06:19 am UTC (link)

The degree to which I do not give a shit about 'magic' vs. 'magick' is astounding. In fact, I'm likely to point at the dictionary and spell it without the 'k.' And yea, verily, I am a hypocrite, for I write fantasy, and, forsooth, I make words up all the dratted time.

But really... it's one fucking letter. It's like wanking over whether barbecue should be abbreviated BBQ or BBC.

I'm loving the cuntwaffles... How come THAT'S never mentioned as part of a nutritional and balanced breakfast? I want my children to grow tall and strong on a healthy diet of cuntwaffles....

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	mooncalf 2003-10-29 09:00 am UTC (link)
	In fact, I'm likely to point at the dictionary and spell it without the 'k.' HOW DARE YOU SPELL 'DICKTIONARY' WITHOUT THE 'K'!!! OMGWTFBBQ U ASSHAT PAGAN U. wanks for twenty-five pages (Reply to this)(Parent)

	ahiru 2003-10-29 03:08 pm UTC (link)
	I want my children to grow tall and strong on a healthy diet of cuntwaffles.... But hwat if the children prefer cuntpancakes and cuntcereal? Will it have the same nutritional value? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	ataniell93 2003-10-30 12:51 am UTC (link)
	I spell it 'magick' because I'm a Thelemite and we spell it that way. I could not care less how you spell it. I only get annoyed when people edit the 'k' out of stuff that I wrote, especially if I'm writing about the occult or writing fiction about a character who also has reason to spell it that way. But. It's a really dumb thing to get mad about, otherwise. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	hoorofcrowley 2003-10-29 06:33 am UTC (link)
	Bwah. This reminds me of the WB Bronze days when a young man informed me that it really is "magick" not merely "magic." He informed me that I should believe since he had killed people with da bad magick and made young girls have teh sexx with him. Plus his handle was "Magick" and who can argue with that, I ask? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	deejay435 2003-10-29 02:49 pm UTC (link)
	Okay, that icon just scares the shit out of me. Clown issues? Oh yeah. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	shoiryu 2003-10-29 08:10 pm UTC (link)
	You should see me at work, then. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	hoorofcrowley 2003-10-30 12:52 am UTC (link)
	Holy shit, that is so cool. Bwah! I feel a tingle of fear in my fingers and right arm . . . or is that a heart attack? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	shoiryu 2003-10-30 05:58 am UTC (link)
	:D I absolutely love my job. Don't die on me, now. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: deejay435 2003-10-30 06:29 am UTC (link)
	All right then. Now that I won't be sleeping tonight, I hope there is plenty of wank to keep me company! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	hoorofcrowley 2003-10-30 12:50 am UTC (link)
	I fear clowns too. Just not Killer Klowns from Outer Space. Bwah. "The Scarecrow and Mrs. King," yes? Hee. Years of childhood spent wondering why they didn't just have sex already. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: deejay435 2003-10-30 06:32 am UTC (link)
	That was a funny movie. But clowns at the circus? Keep them the hell away from me! Yes! You're the second person today to remember the show. I still love it. I recently went through a 'play all the old vhs tapes I own, then order the ones I don't' phase. It was fun. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sepiamagpie 2003-10-29 06:33 am UTC (link)
	I prefer to spell it mahjique. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	rann 2003-10-29 08:19 am UTC (link)
	Now with more pretentiousness! Mmmmm, taste the pretentious flavor! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sepiamagpie 2003-10-29 11:28 am UTC (link)
	gimme a second and I can work a tilde into that sucker. Maybe it needs little symbols over the a and i? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	pradaloz 2003-10-29 05:59 pm UTC (link)
	BWA HA HA. That is all. (Reply to this)(Parent)

heyoka
2003-10-29 06:37 am UTC (link)

Gaia Online! The last wank from there made me wind up getting an account. Do I have you to thank for that? Because if so, I have to hurt you. Just FYI. ;P

More on topic: I've always found the "k" spelling of magic to be, frankly, pretentious. I don't feel particularly vehement about it, though, unless I've been wading through fantasy novels that beat you over the head with it (see: Mercedes Lackey). So, yeah, I sympathize with the OP, but his approach is way wanky. ;P

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nekoneko
2003-10-29 10:48 pm UTC (link)

Gaia Online! The last wank from there made me wind up getting an account. Do I have you to thank for that? Because if so, I have to hurt you. Just FYI. ;P

That probably was me, since that's my primary source of teh wank. I jsut head over to Gaia and go into either the Anime/Manga discussion, which actually looks half sane, or the Extended Discussion, the eternal wankfest.

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	dontgiveahoot 2003-10-29 07:38 am UTC (link)
	Now, I will confess to rather enjoying a lot of Gaia. Just like I enjoy Harry Potter and being a PotterFan. But that doesn't make parts of the fandom any less wanky. I try to avoid Gaia-wank like the plague - but sometimes I've just got to stir it all up. I'm a sick little monkey, de gozaru. ;-) Jen / Quoth the Raven (Reply to this)(Thread)

	rowan 2003-10-29 09:37 am UTC (link)
	Word. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	walkingundine 2003-10-29 08:45 am UTC (link)
	Hmm. For some reason, your link is showing up as a link to my Journalfen friends page. Why might that be? (Reply to this)

	deejay435 2003-10-29 03:00 pm UTC (link)
	I just find myself totally fascinated by the little avitars with their little talk-bubbles. Yeah, I'm easily amused. (Reply to this)

delfeus
2003-10-29 05:19 pm UTC (link)

WAAH! I actually found that interesting, until the "there's no K in magic" idiots showed up. *kicks them*

I don't really mind it spelled either way, and I'm not into that stuff, but in my mind
magic = Harry Potter, Dragonlance, using objects or commands to control magic
magick = Wicca, Nature magic, inner magic - more like willing things to happen, than commanding them.

Um... did anyone get what I meant? I am not a Wicca, nor do I believe that the powers of Nature can be commanded, but I do believe that there are powers in the Nature.

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ataniell93
2003-10-30 12:58 am UTC (link)

Traditionally, Thelemites use magick to denote both of the types of magick you are discussing, and 'magic' for what stage magicians, or prestidigitators, do. I use 'magick' in my Potterfics, because I am a Thelemite, and we just do that. (Frankly, it would be too much of a PITA to remember to do anything else.)

But it doesn't really matter to anyone except Thelemites. I am told that some Wiccans and Pagans use this spelling and other Wiccans and Pagans don't. If they do, they got it (like the Gardnerian Wiccans got bunches of their rituals) from us, but we don't mind. (Well, I don't. Magicians have been plagiarizing each other since the dawn of time, which might explain a lot about my fandom, eh? The Romans stole from the Egyptians, the Christians stole from the Celts, the Wiccans stole from the Thelemites, the Haitians borrowed freely from the Natives, the Africans, and the Catholics--who gives a shit, as long as it works for ya?)

The use of the spelling with a k to denote 'real magick' as opposed to 'stage magic' originated with Aleister Crowley. There's supposed to be some numerological reason for it. It is an old English spelling, too, but it didn't mean anything speshul back then. I just like it better, myself.

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	deejay435 2003-10-30 06:38 am UTC (link)
	Well, I don't. Magicians have been plagiarizing each other since the dawn of time... What? You're not going to wank about it forever, and give us something to laugh about? Spoilsport. (Reply to this)(Parent)

pradaloz
2003-10-29 06:06 pm UTC (link)

I have some pagan friends who roll their eyes whenever they see someone insisting that magick must be spelled with a k, lest it lose its magickal importance. The writers among them also tend to grab the nearest dictionary and use it to beat Little Miss Magick upside the head.

I myself am more of the "magic/k, shmagic/k, it's all hocus-pocus anyway, so let's go have a beer" philosophy.

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	(Anonymous) 2003-10-29 07:54 pm UTC (link)
	Mmm... beer. That is all. -smo (Reply to this)(Parent)

	norabombay 2003-10-29 09:40 pm UTC (link)
	I adore your icon. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	pradaloz 2003-10-31 03:38 pm UTC (link)
	Deleted and reposted because tags are too difficult for my tiny, tiny mind. Thanks! A friend made it for me, and I will ♥ her 4EVA for it. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	chash 2003-10-29 11:25 pm UTC (link)
	I really need to stop going to places that get wanked and signing up for them -_- (Reply to this)

	(Anonymous) 2003-10-30 04:11 am UTC (link)
	I saw this and just HAD to comment. You mean eikai_rei is BACK?! I was a member of that previous thread which she took over, and I thought it was all over... >_< Extended Discussion--ah, the wanky possibilities. Half the topics are things like "do u masterbait" (yes, with that spelling). -GeminiGoddess25 on LJ, Ibara-chan on GaiaOnline- (Reply to this)

	bloodysakura 2003-10-30 05:21 am UTC (link)
	It seems like such a trivial thing to wank over. shakes head sadly I know there has been many a wank over one person's ability to use proper spelling and grammar, but this is ridiculous. I think these people take themselves just a tad too seriously. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	smo 2003-10-30 06:24 pm UTC (link)
	It seems like such a trivial thing to wank over. You mean there are people out there who wank over profound thoughts and important issues? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	dontgiveahoot 2003-11-05 01:20 am UTC (link)
	... worships the super-funneh Saitou icon Permission to use this on LJ, please? hedwig_the_owl I will credit! I always do. Jen / Quoth the Raven (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	smo 2003-11-05 05:14 pm UTC (link)
	By all means, my dear. :) (Reply to this)(Parent)