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Wicked Ripe Plum ([info]wickedripeplum) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2003-11-11 13:36:00


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Poland vs Austria
A little Queer as Folk wankery. I don't really have much of the other side of this wank, so it's heavily weighted towards the proLJ side.

Gaedhal writes an 'epic' fic called Queer Theories, otherwise known as the moviestar!hustler!Brian fic. she loves make pronouncements about what is good fic and what people in the fandom should be writing. Back in the days of the TWoP Queer as Folk board she presided over the fic thread, churning out endless self congratulatory wankery. Though to be honest in comparison to the rest of the TWoP QaF board, which was one giant vitriolic wank (so much so that even the TWoP moderators couldn't stand it), the fic thread was a happy sunny place. When the board was finally shut down Gaedhal started a yahoogroup for her fic, which I'm told is 10 times as wanky as the TWoP fic thread ever was (I really have no desire to look, but if you want there's a link to it at the top of her page).

Gaedhal starts a thread in the QaF fanfiction discussion board about how she doesn't like when people don't archive their fic. Rozaroni responds there, but also takes it to her journal where wankage ensues. There's also a side note from Josselin.

Sadly since Gaedhal is above LJ, this wank is not all that it could be.


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[info]smo
2003-11-11 09:10 pm UTC (link)
Wow, TWoP wank makes it onto F_W! It's like Six Degrees of Wankeration over here.

The QaF boards were bad news. I never posted on them, but they probably got more complaints in the Troll Reporting thread than any other forum.

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[info]wickedripeplum
2003-11-11 09:14 pm UTC (link)
They should have gotten way more than they did. The entire thing was based on personal insults. The non B/J people hated the B/J people and vice versa. There were a few people who felt they were the definitive gay voice (okay 1 person who thought that and all his minions who agreed) and that anyone who disagreed with them stupid and possibly homophobic and pedophile.

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[info]smo
2003-11-11 09:16 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I figured the PTB would have put the smackdown much earlier, and more definitively, than they did. Guess they just didn't feel like dealing with it, which I can understand.

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(no subject) - [info]wickedripeplum, 2003-11-12 03:21 am UTC
(no subject) - wizzard, 2003-11-12 03:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wickedripeplum, 2003-11-12 05:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tempslut, 2003-11-12 05:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wickedripeplum, 2003-11-12 05:20 am UTC
Squee!
[info]deejay435
2003-11-12 04:41 am UTC (link)
Icon Love!

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(Anonymous)
2003-11-12 02:46 pm UTC (link)
(okay 1 person who thought that and all his minions who agreed)

Quick guess: bstewart?

--Dominique
(dominique_elize on LJ)

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(no subject) - [info]wickedripeplum, 2003-11-12 05:45 pm UTC

[info]melange
2003-11-11 09:50 pm UTC (link)
Umm, could you explain that whole Poland/Austria thing. After reading this, I think I get it, but I'm not really sure.

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I think...
tintin
2003-11-11 10:48 pm UTC (link)
Austria = LJ
Poland = bjfic.net

Or that's how I've been using it. Knowing my luck I've reversed the terms.

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Re: I think...
[info]melange
2003-11-11 11:05 pm UTC (link)
Ah, that's what I thought. Thanks.

Do you know the origins of the terms? I'm not sure I get *why* LJ would be called Austria.

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Re: I think... - [info]wickedripeplum, 2003-11-12 12:15 am UTC
Re: I think... - [info]melange, 2003-11-12 01:00 am UTC
Re: I think... - [info]musette, 2003-11-12 01:48 am UTC
Re: I think... - [info]melange, 2003-11-12 02:27 am UTC
Re: I think... - [info]musette, 2003-11-12 02:35 am UTC
Re: I think... - [info]melange, 2003-11-12 03:05 am UTC
Re: I think... - [info]musette, 2003-11-12 03:46 am UTC
Re: I think... - [info]melange, 2003-11-12 03:52 am UTC
Re: I think... - [info]musette, 2003-11-12 06:49 am UTC
Re: I think... - (Anonymous), 2003-11-13 02:04 pm UTC
Re: I think... - [info]musette, 2003-11-13 08:37 pm UTC
Re: I think... - [info]wickedripeplum, 2003-11-12 02:38 am UTC
Re: I think... - [info]melange, 2003-11-12 03:07 am UTC
Re: I think... - (Anonymous), 2003-11-13 11:04 am UTC
Re: I think... - [info]musette, 2003-11-13 08:36 pm UTC
Re: I think... - (Anonymous), 2003-11-14 02:22 am UTC
Re: I think... - [info]musette, 2003-11-14 02:51 am UTC
Re: I think... - (Anonymous), 2003-11-14 06:59 pm UTC
Re: I think... - [info]musette, 2003-11-14 08:35 pm UTC
Re: I think... - (Anonymous), 2003-11-14 10:42 pm UTC
Re: I think... - [info]musette, 2003-11-15 02:11 am UTC

[info]panthea
2003-11-12 12:33 am UTC (link)
Wow. I am mightily confused.

I enjoy being Polish Austrian Egyptian.

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[info]revival
2003-11-24 11:03 am UTC (link)
hee. am a self appointed icelandic ;)

*little slow*

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[info]calluna
2003-11-12 02:08 am UTC (link)
Gaedhal started a yahoogroup for her fic, which I'm told is 10 times as wanky as the TWoP fic thread ever was

From what I've seen, mailing lists for a specific fanfic series are wanky almost by definition.

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oh my, Gaedhal wank!
[info]pet
2003-11-12 02:52 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I foolishly signed up for Gaedhal's mailing list, and stayed signed up for approximately 2.8 seconds. That's how long it took me to get her first indescribably wanky post to the list, and see the surreally sycophantic and mindless replies. Gaedhal is actually the reason I don't sign up for vanity groups or lists any more, no matter how much I like the author's writing.

It's sad she doesn't have an LJ. That would be a true fountainhead of wank, and she could be enthroned with the likes of Ginmar, Aja/Ivy, and Fictionlynn, right up there in the pantheon.

Heh.

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[info]iamtheenemy
2003-11-12 04:06 am UTC (link)
I'm glad I never got passed ATP for my QaF fanfic needs, and even then I stayed completely on the Brian/Michael (OTP!) side of things.

On another note, why the hell do people get so caught up in fanfic? This chick, Fictionlyn, Cassie Claire...it seems like they get fangirled more than the actual characters/people their stories are based on.

It seems like the recipe for an over-fangirled fanfic is one pompous, completely egotistical author and many, many, MANY unnecessary, sensationalist chapters in what is really one long ass PWP fic mixed briskly until frothy.

Steph

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[info]htrismegistus
2003-11-12 04:31 am UTC (link)
It seems like the recipe for an over-fangirled fanfic is one pompous, completely egotistical author and many, many, MANY unnecessary, sensationalist chapters in what is really one long ass PWP fic mixed briskly until frothy.

If I could bronze those words, I would. Thank you.

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(Anonymous)
2003-11-14 12:43 pm UTC (link)
I'm glad I never got passed ATP for my QaF fanfic needs

Uh? ATP is the (one-sided) place where the gossip and snarkery runs free. I hate that place with a passion. Five days and I was out of there. Eek.

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(Anonymous)
2003-11-14 01:06 pm UTC (link)
Oh, I forgot to mention the endless whining and the lack of substancial debate about the show. Because, yes, the snark sometimes *is* fun ... in substancial conversation.

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(Anonymous)
2003-11-12 04:54 am UTC (link)
*blinks*

The only wank I can see here is that they're obviously taking their own wankery to such epic proportions that they're using unfunny, inaccurate, drawn-out war metaphors to describe the difference between LJ AND FIC-ARCHIVES. It's like Godwin's Law Lite(tm).

(And wow, could they at least use another country besides Poland? The pages and pages of "the Polish r eliterat!!11 Dey kant rite!11!!111 BACK 2 U, HANS" are annoying the SHIT out of me.)

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[info]wickedripeplum
2003-11-12 05:12 am UTC (link)
The Austria/Poland thing was silliness that came before the wank.

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[info]ruaha56
2003-11-12 08:41 am UTC (link)
The Austria/Poland thing was silliness that came before the wank.

How silly do you get?

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Re: ... - [info]wickedripeplum, 2003-11-12 09:32 am UTC
Re: ... - [info]norabombay, 2003-11-12 05:18 pm UTC
Re: ... - [info]ruaha56, 2003-11-12 07:40 pm UTC
Re: ... - [info]norabombay, 2003-11-12 08:34 pm UTC

[info]miztia
2003-11-12 07:04 pm UTC (link)
I'm surprised the QAF fandom isn't wanked more regularly. It's a shit-storm of volatile snark and wank every day if you read and post on the major boards. I recall Gaedhal from the former Twop board (ahhh, I miss that particular QAF board), but didn't actually post much with her in regards to the actual show.

As for the fanfiction wank above....couldn't give a toss. The wankery of the fandom as a whole is much more entertaining.





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QAF has always been RIPE for fanwank
(Anonymous)
2003-11-12 08:20 pm UTC (link)
Please,

If it's not fights about the fiction, it's fights about whether or not Justin or Michael will "win" Brian, the issue of Gale and Randy truly being a "couple" or the issue of Gale's sexuality. QAFUS fandom has been RIPE for fanwank for years.

dimples - I too miss TWoP QAF. At least there were gay men who actually commented on the show.

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Re: QAF has always been RIPE for fanwank
[info]miztia
2003-11-12 08:49 pm UTC (link)
*gasp*

You mean to tell me that there are no gay men watching this show? Well fuck me surprised side-ways twice - not. QAFUS (and I *stress* the US), is about as targeted towards gay men and women these days as Oprah Winfrey is towards straight men.

Shame on you Cowlip. A pox on you both.



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Re: QAF has always been RIPE for fanwank - [info]wickedripeplum, 2003-11-12 09:43 pm UTC
Re: QAF has always been RIPE for fanwank - (Anonymous), 2003-11-14 03:24 am UTC
QAF TWoP
(Anonymous)
2003-11-12 08:32 pm UTC (link)
Well I do know that Bstewart wasn't banned. Since he's friends with the owners of the board that isn't likely to happen.

I do miss TWoP because the other boards are too much of a drool fest filled with girly squeels of delight and blind devotion. There is hardly a discussion about anything other than B/J or B/M. No real discussion of the show itself, which is a shame. It should be discussed and reviled as much as possible.

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Re: QAF TWoP
[info]smo
2003-11-12 08:36 pm UTC (link)
I do miss TWoP because the other boards are too much of a drool fest filled with girly squeels of delight and blind devotion.

Actually, that's true of some of the TWoP boards now as well. Not all, but some.

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Re: QAF TWoP - [info]miztia, 2003-11-12 09:03 pm UTC
Re: QAF TWoP - [info]wickedripeplum, 2003-11-12 09:39 pm UTC
Re: QAF TWoP - [info]deeablo, 2003-11-13 12:35 am UTC
Re: QAF TWoP - [info]wickedripeplum, 2003-11-13 12:54 am UTC
Re: QAF TWoP - [info]deeablo, 2003-11-13 12:58 am UTC

[info]revival
2003-11-24 11:12 am UTC (link)
I'm really late to this discussion but I just have to post. >.<

Being relatively new to this fandom, I had always been under the impression that QAF = quiet fandom, compared to the Harry Potter one anyway. Looks like I was wrong, big time. Had a brief 101 on the whole TWoP board war/wank/whatever you want to call it.

Actually, there's (or was) a whole debate on the LJ issue over on the Refugee Board, I think that's where it all begun - here's the link - scroll down the page and pay note to the subject heading.

As someone said to me a while ago, the QAF fandom bitchery is a very 'Southern' bitchery - as in a bunch of society ladies waving fans and putting on polite/pretentious facades whilst underneath it all they're really all clawing each other's eyes out. Of course this is a big generalization...

:>

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