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	Bushido 4 kidz! banal_o_rama 2003-11-16 07:46 am UTC (link)
	$20 says his daimyo is the black guy from Ghost Dog. (Reply to this)

	samurai, huh? romanesque 2003-11-16 10:32 am UTC (link)
	the GLBT scholar in me rejoices XD Unfortunately, that's all it can do now (half-heartedly 'cause it doesn't know all the details) because I can't get the site to open for me...my IE's wacky. (Reply to this)

	l_s_q 2003-11-16 03:16 pm UTC (link)
	Love the guy who keeps posting to the effect of 'I'm a professional student of Japanese culture and have seen 700 Japanese film! Phear my leet skillz!!!1' He's so wonderfully pretentious. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	allen 2003-11-16 05:18 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, I thought the thread itself would just decline into "Am not!" "Are too!" but the arguments on Japanese history became an eloquent version of "I know more than you so there nyah!" which was also pretty funny. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	banal_o_rama 2003-11-16 06:42 pm UTC (link)
	Yes, and the way he kept popping up in every goddamn thread was really special. "SMAMURIA U=FAG!" "Totally, and as a Ph.D. I can clearly state that you have spelled 'samurai' wrong. Also, let's talk about Musashi for a while." (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	shoiryu 2003-11-16 06:52 pm UTC (link)
	"So once there was this guy Musashi, right, and he had a sword, and he got in a boat and got really drunk and went to some island and killed some guy who was named after a Pokemon character-" (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

banal_o_rama
2003-11-16 08:06 pm UTC (link)

"::sigh::

CLEARLY you have no understanding of Japanese history. I bet you can't even read the hiragana on the back of a Pocky box! Even retarded foreign monkeys know better than to trust English translations of anything Japanese. Please go away and leave the smart people to their discussion.

Also, Musashi is ALSO the name of a Pokemon character. Which you would know if you'd been as immersed in Japanese pop culture as I am."

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	shoiryu 2003-11-16 08:53 pm UTC (link)
	"Well, like, okay, what about that Battousai guy? HE was a real guy, right, and so was that Saitou whatsisfuck, and they were all KAWAII BISHIES that lived THREE HUNDRED YEARS AGO! See, I know all about ~~Rurouni Kenshin~~ the Meiji era!" (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ieatpeople 2003-11-16 09:16 pm UTC (link)
	Don't forget that they were all gay! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	smo 2003-11-17 04:45 am UTC (link)
	And schtupping each other! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	greekhoop 2003-11-17 08:36 am UTC (link)
	Well, duh. What else are a bunch of gay samurai gonna do on Friday night? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	smo 2003-11-17 05:59 pm UTC (link)
	Naturally. And of course, they can all do it multiple times every night in positions that defy both gravity and human anatomy. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	greekhoop 2003-11-17 08:52 pm UTC (link)
	That's what all the bushido training was for, don't you know. It's like tantric sex, in a way. You know... your icon and my icon and all this talk about steamy samurai lovin' is making me contemplate the weirdest slash pairing ever. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	smo 2003-11-17 11:48 pm UTC (link)
	Hee. Yeah, I've gotten a lot of comments to that effect. Apparently the old Miburo still gets around. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	banal_o_rama 2003-11-18 02:03 am UTC (link)
	d00d, that's necrophilia. Saitoh don't play dat. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	iczer6 2003-11-17 02:10 am UTC (link)
	[Even retarded foreign monkeys know better than to trust English translations of anything Japanese. Please go away and leave the smart people to their discussion.] Of course! Remember if you haven't translated it yourself, by candlelight, in the cold, while walking 15 miles uphill BOTH ways to the bookstore, than it's not worth reading. Icz (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

virago
2003-11-17 08:13 am UTC (link)

>>Of course! Remember if you haven't translated it yourself, by candlelight, in the cold, while walking 15 miles uphill BOTH ways to the bookstore, than it's not worth reading.>>

Translated? English is the mud language, peasant, and if you let it touch your ears or eyes EVER you are not ~~a troo fan!~~ worthy of the holy tongue!

...I'm writing in English now? Wait, no I'm not! *poof*

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	ecchaniz0r 2003-11-17 08:43 pm UTC (link)
	Subterfuge and vanishing? Ohohoho. You're no samurai! You're a NINJA! (and lo, ecchaniz0r is promptly fragged by Orochimaru before she can go off on another daft-as-hell Naruto tangent) ...I'm good. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	smo 2003-11-17 11:48 pm UTC (link)
	Really? I thought it was a Tsukikage Ran tangent. Guess it could work either way. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2003-11-16 11:28 pm UTC (link)
	I thought his contributions were actually the thing most worth reading in the thread...but for the reader just looking for wank, enlightenment from a professional is probably not particularly appreciated. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	nitro 2003-11-17 02:39 am UTC (link)
	You wouldn't happen to be penneym, would you? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2003-11-17 03:15 am UTC (link)
	No, but I do plead guilty of being a professional academic, and capable of being amazingly wanky when people get facts in my specialty wrong. :) And to forestall the whines of 'stop being anonymous!' I have very little presence on the Net, but I guess I'll look for a code or something so as to be indentified. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	allen 2003-11-17 03:56 am UTC (link)
	We only dislike anonymous folk when they flame without reason and then say they don't have to leave their name. I've got codes, if you want -- email me, allen @ creativelymaladjusted.org. =) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	teratologist 2003-11-17 05:09 pm UTC (link)
	I've got to admit, I liked the scholarly replies myself - after all, I didn't get anything to put on my reading list from the "U = queer i beet yer azz" posts, no matter how entertaining they were. cuddles reading list Then again, I'm kind of an academic wannabe. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	guinevere33 2003-11-16 11:43 pm UTC (link)
	I liked when Our Samurai proved that he knew more about being a warrior than the alleged Japanese scholar, who'd spouted off a ton of lit. references, by saying, "Have you even seen the film Ghost Dog, Way of the Samurai? That might put things in perspective for you." Bahahahahaha. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	teratologist 2003-11-17 01:24 am UTC (link)
	I'm just wondering how much Southern Comfort a person needs to drink to watch Ghost Dog and think that he's seeing an unequivocal endorsement of the samurai lifestyle. I assume he must have stolen his mom's supply. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	iris 2003-11-17 12:18 am UTC (link)
	That was beautiful. These people are fucking idiots. (Reply to this)

	puipui 2003-11-17 03:32 am UTC (link)
	I have a desperate urge to reply to the "You are such a queer" post with a long-winded response on how real-life historical samurai often had sexual relationships with those of the same gender, complete with academic quotes and half-supported historical references and a list of related movies, just to get into the spirit of the thing. Fun! (Reply to this)(Thread)

	smo 2003-11-17 04:46 am UTC (link)
	I double dog dare you. Triple dog, even. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	edward_hyde 2003-11-17 06:41 am UTC (link)
	I freely admit that I would love you forever if you did that. :) The wank would no doubt shoot through the roof. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ironymaiden 2003-11-17 11:02 am UTC (link)
	i wrote a paper on that once. 'twas a good paper. :D (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	edward_hyde 2003-11-17 04:31 pm UTC (link)
	You got to write a paper on the gayness of samurai? I WANT TO TAKE THAT CLASS! XD (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	smo 2003-11-17 04:36 pm UTC (link)
	Me too, me too! Mmm, RPS. Or rather RPY, I guess. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ecchaniz0r 2003-11-17 08:45 pm UTC (link)
	Mmm, Ryuhei Matsuda. ...Ahem. (makes squillionth mental note to frickin' well rent Gohatto already) Tee hee hee hee RPyaoi. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	smo 2003-11-17 11:53 pm UTC (link)
	Oh. My. God. Slash-sengumi. OH. MY. GOD. passes out (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: ecchaniz0r 2003-11-18 02:23 am UTC (link)
	He is a beautiful, BEAUTIFUL man, he is. (fans self) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	smo 2003-11-18 01:53 pm UTC (link)
	Fucking-A. Guess what's next on my Netflix list? (Reply to this)(Parent)

smo
2003-11-23 04:48 am UTC (link)

Okay, saw Gohatto today. Some thoughts:

Kano was almost too pretty. Like, to the point that I stopped thinking, "Damn, he fine," and started thinking, "Oh no that bitch di'int bite my favorite shade of eyeshadow!" He did, however, have a lot more spirit and personality than most of the reviews I read gave him credit for.

Okita? DROOOOOOL. Just the right side of androgynous to melt my butter, and less childish-looking than the cartoon version. He did have that delightful smile and infectious laugh, but had his serious moments as well; I actually believed this guy was capable of leading a troop of samurai. (I also loved it when he and Hijikata got into a bitchfight over Kano. Hee.)

Hijikata did a great job with what could have been a purely expository role. He wasn't as pretty as Aoshi (although fortunately much less whiny), but don't let's ask for the moon.

It's hard to explain, but for some reason the movie had a very... French feel to it. Not in a bad way, mind you, just in terms of pacing and characterization and what have you. I'm glad I saw it, anyway, and thanks for the recommendation!

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	(Anonymous) 2003-11-17 05:17 am UTC (link)
	waits for the bousouzoku to come in, that'll really get the kazu no ko flying (Reply to this)

	sidhebastardess 2003-11-17 10:12 pm UTC (link)
	You know, my grasp of Japanese culture is somewhat limited, but I feel like I read somewhere that this idea of what a samurai was (is) is about on par with our contemporary portrayal of "knights in shining armor": more myth than reality. The reality being far less romantic. Then again, I'm not a professional scholar. =P (Reply to this)

I go by the name of Takadainmate in other journal realms
(Anonymous)
2003-11-18 07:17 am UTC (link)

But I just had to add my pennies worth, not least because somebody mentioned the magic word "Musashi". Hmmm. Yummy. Currently screening on NHK is a series based on this character (who is not wholly fictional) and the guy who plays Musashi is HOT. But that's not the point. I wanted to share a tale I have of drunken japanese men in Tokyo bars. I was watching TV one night and there was a programme on where they showed drunk people in Tokyo saying hello in whatever way they pleased infront of a camera. So, one bloke came up and bowed very low and said "I am Endo Koichi [or likewise Japansese name], samurai-extraodinaire !" [my translation, hence i'm probably twisting the truth]. To which the crowd burst into fits of laughter. The poor mite seemed quite offended. But it made me think, just how much Japanese would laugh at a foreigner for saying he was a samurai. Awww. It's just sad really.

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	veuki 2003-11-20 12:49 am UTC (link)
	Hey, Elijah is a samurai, too. (Reply to this)