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El Juno (eljuno) wrote in fandom_wank,
@ 2003-12-01 14:26:00

Current music:

The Strokes - Is This It

Who cares, Rolling Stone sucks anyway...
Funny thing, I suspected this was going to happen the moment I got my copy...

So, proving they didn't learn the lesson inherent in their 100 Greatest Guitarists issue, Rolling Stone dedicates this month to the 500 Greatest Albums.

Anyone want to guess the response?

The lesson is as follows...don't fuck with music fans. They're absolutely INSANE.

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	mynxkittie 2003-12-01 10:58 pm UTC (link)
	HAHAHA how did I know a Tori Amos fan was going to be involved in this. XD Also, that person complaining about the Beastie Boys not being on the list needs to look closer. I saw them twice already and I'm not done looking over the list. I have to agree with Rolling Stone sucking, though. I mean...Captain Beefheart? Bzuh? (Reply to this)(Thread)

(Anonymous)
2003-12-02 11:05 pm UTC (link)

On behalf of sane - oh, all right then, non-wanky - Tori fans the world over, I must poke my head up in protest at that. We don't all bite, honestly.

I do think Under The Pink deserves recognition though, but whatever. Whatever RS tries to dress it up as, it's a bunch of personal opinions with no justification or criteria given (at least not on the site) and the only gripe I can think of is that it's boring. There isn't a lot on that list someone couldn't have guessed by browsing their last 30 years of reviews and picking the most orgasmic ones. There must be enough of these cloned articles around by now to make a 100 Most Boring, Space-Filling Top 100 Lists list.

- Laura / jacinthsong on lj.

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mynxkittie, 2003-12-02 11:07 pm UTC

eljuno, 2003-12-02 11:09 pm UTC

	greekhoop 2003-12-01 11:12 pm UTC (link)
	Umm, guys? Guys! Earth to wanky guys! Automatic for the People was on that silly list. (Granted, not nearly as high as they should have been, but if I see one more person bitching about what a grievous oversight it was to leave it off, I'm going to start thinking I'm losing it.) (Reply to this)

sepiamagpie
2003-12-02 01:04 am UTC (link)

Who are half these bands and why do I dislike the ones I recognize?

of course, the list isn't titled 'What Sepia Thinks Are The 500 Greatest Albums' so maybe there's a reason that it does not pander to my needs and opinions. If I keep on this train a bit more, I will start dissecting the word need in my comment and move onto the fact that I should just go live in a faraway mountain and dispense advice and eat riceballs.

I lost track of what I was just talking about.

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sagralisse, 2003-12-02 06:24 pm UTC

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smo, 2003-12-02 07:38 pm UTC

sepiamagpie, 2003-12-03 08:24 am UTC

smo, 2003-12-03 03:08 pm UTC

	ichigatsu 2003-12-02 01:26 am UTC (link)
	I can understand some of the bitching about certain musicians being left off, but: Um...where is Mariah Carey...albums like "DAydream" and "Butterfly" and "Music Box"...this is the woman who is the best selling female of all time and not one of her albums is on this list...what gives? Abwahahahahaha. (Reply to this)

	shoiryu 2003-12-02 01:30 am UTC (link)
	Gah, urge to wank all over this... rising... Eminem... ranking... before... Beck... Quadrophenia... at... 266? EMINEM RANKING BEFORE ANY BEATLES ALBUM AUGH AUGH OVERLOAD boom (Reply to this)(Thread)

mindset, 2003-12-02 02:07 am UTC

redpanda, 2003-12-02 03:03 am UTC

shoiryu, 2003-12-02 03:21 am UTC

sidewinder, 2003-12-02 03:46 am UTC

shoiryu, 2003-12-02 04:02 am UTC

bloodysakura, 2003-12-02 09:39 pm UTC

eljuno, 2003-12-02 09:43 pm UTC

	bunny 2003-12-02 01:31 am UTC (link)
	I don't if I should mock the wank or wank along (at least about the best music videos list, which doesn't contain one female artist), but then I read stuff like this: DGrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.........where was Pantera's Vulgar Display of Power, or White Zombie's La Sexorsisto??? And why was Kiss' debut album not on this list???I demand answers!!! and prefer to mock. (Reply to this)(Thread)

bunny, 2003-12-02 02:48 am UTC

eljuno, 2003-12-02 02:52 am UTC

dreamtoday, 2003-12-02 06:59 am UTC

monkeywrench, 2003-12-03 01:58 pm UTC

	bubosquared 2003-12-02 01:31 am UTC (link)
	First Dylan album on #4, two Dylan albums in the top ten, and Blood on the Tracks on #16. Don't know what anyone's complaining about. grin (Reply to this)(Thread)

chash, 2003-12-03 12:59 am UTC

bubosquared, 2003-12-03 10:25 am UTC

	sidhebastardess 2003-12-02 02:44 am UTC (link)
	David Bowie got in there six times, and the Clash scored #8. Mariah Carey? Feh, whatever. ;P (Reply to this)

ipomoea
2003-12-02 03:02 am UTC (link)

Sheesh. When are people going to learn it's all a matter of opinion? All this list means is that these are the 500 favourite albums of the RS writers, that's all. There's stuff I'd have left off that made it, and stuff that didn't that I'd have added, but you won't see me pitching a huge fit over it.

But then, maybe I'm not fussing because two of my favourites did make the top ten (Dylan's Highway 61 Revisited and the Clash's London Calling. And I was happy to see the Pogues make the list at all (sure their Rum, Sodomy & the Lash was #445, but at least it was on there).

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ipomoea, 2003-12-02 03:04 am UTC

eljuno, 2003-12-02 03:15 am UTC

smo, 2003-12-02 04:31 pm UTC

sidewinder
2003-12-02 03:26 am UTC (link)

I wanked a little over the list in my personal journal and left it at that. RS has been shit for at least 15 years, probably longer than that, and the list is nothing more than their editors' personal favorites who they've been creaming over for decades.

The lesson is as follows...don't fuck with music fans. They're absolutely INSANE.

Duuuude, never have truer words been spoken! (says she who has weathered the stormy ways of many music fandoms for decades...The Wank Remains The Same...)

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shoiryu, 2003-12-02 03:35 am UTC

thewashinator
2003-12-02 05:30 am UTC (link)

I decided long ago that the best way to deal with these lists is to view them as coming from a friend, or a friend's friend. An interesting window into someone's personality, and a good way to broaden your own music collection ("Hmmm. They think Album X is really that good? Maybe I'll check it out.") I know RS wants me to view it as some sort of inviolable or sacred commandment from on high, but that's just as wanky as the people bitching about the fact that there's not a Poison album on the list. I'm going to read it, and see what interests me on it, but there's no point getting all upset about it.

Now, if I were 15, I would be wanking all over that list, because I was so fucking convinced that my musical taste was inviolable.

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	banal_o_rama 2003-12-02 06:42 am UTC (link)
	Any list without 69 Love Songs on it is in and of itself fatally flawed. Therefore, ~~God exists~~ RS still sucks not that I bothered to check the whole thing, since I'm pretty sure it's not on there, and if it is on there I don't mind looking like a jackass, because GODDAMMIT people need to worship the Magnetic Fields more. (Reply to this)(Thread)

ieatpeople, 2003-12-02 10:04 am UTC

(no subject) - darthhellokitty, 2003-12-02 10:19 am UTC

madelfdisease, 2003-12-02 11:27 pm UTC

resmiranda, 2003-12-02 11:04 pm UTC

madelfdisease, 2003-12-02 11:25 pm UTC

diamonde
2003-12-02 08:02 am UTC (link)

Yes. Sexist, North American-biased and genre-biased. Soul, blues and hip-hop but mostly middle-of-the-road rock, with a couple of the more infamous punk bands to make it look like they're cool and David Bowie and Elton John, because you'd get laughed out of town if you left them off. This was a suprise to anybody? It's Rolling Stone. They're always sexist and ethnocentric. It's what they do. (Note AC/DC as the token Australian representation on the list, the only one I saw. No Silverchair? No Savage Garden? Pff.)

*deep breath* Hey, when we're talking Britney and Madonna, Music was NOT a better album than Oops. And where's No Strings Attatched or Millenium</i>?! SHOCKING! Have these people no taste? ..... *stifles giggles* .... Okay, okay. But for all its lack of artistic cred, I've gotten a lot more enjoyment out of NSA than I have bloody Radiohead the ever-whining.

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	bohicamouse 2003-12-02 08:07 am UTC (link)
	There's only one Zappa listed? Pshaw. heh (Reply to this)(Thread)

delfeus, 2003-12-02 05:13 pm UTC

	delfeus 2003-12-02 05:10 pm UTC (link)
	Um...where is Mariah Carey...albums like "DAydream" and "Butterfly" and "Music Box"...this is the woman who is the best selling female of all time and not one of her albums is on this list...what gives? shrieks in fear and hides under table Those people are insane! Granted, my list would have looked very different, but who the fuck would put Mariah Carey on a list like that? (Reply to this)

delfeus
2003-12-02 05:25 pm UTC (link)

...why do I have this image that Houses of the Holy was my fave Zeppelin album after 4? Why is it at 149, when there are several Zeppelin albums before it? Of course, it might have been that it just had some of my fave songs, but wasn't that good as a whole album. I only have the 2cd collection myself, my ex-friend had all the cds...

...why is there so much Prince in there? Did he bribe someone? Is he still alive?

There's some of my faves on the list, but I think Queen should have been higher on the list. I can't believe Eminem is higher than The Cure's Disintegration... and why is HELP! #332 when there's so much Beatles up higher? It's my fave... mainly because of the movie, but still. :)

Def Leppard's Hysteria is 472. Would have been lots higher on my list, but at least it made it...

Well, I think there was about 30 records I somewhat like, not bad for Rolling Stones' top 500 list, considering I've never bought the managize myself for the simple reason that they never write of bands I like...

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	snacky 2003-12-02 06:25 pm UTC (link)
	How did people wank over these Rolling Stone lists before the internet? Thank God for Al Gore! Did I see Moby Grape on that list? (Reply to this)(Thread)

The wank was always in the letters page. -

ieatpeople, 2003-12-02 11:02 pm UTC

	sagralisse 2003-12-02 06:40 pm UTC (link)
	Three actual R.E.M. albums and no Rush. Yay. (Reply to this)(Thread)

queenbead, 2003-12-03 06:47 am UTC

	onetrickpony 2003-12-02 06:43 pm UTC (link)
	This is clearly an opportunity for a complete ANGSTATHON! I mean, if just one of those top fifty had been left off, I could be reading a little mini-bio thing of 'Bridge Over Troubled Water' as we speak!!!11 wail And it's wrong that when I see 'who's next' I think of either Abbot and Costello or Tom Lehrer rather than The Who, right? Thought so. (Reply to this)(Thread)

shoiryu, 2003-12-02 08:22 pm UTC

snacky, 2003-12-02 08:32 pm UTC

smo, 2003-12-02 09:01 pm UTC

eljuno, 2003-12-02 08:27 pm UTC

	necronomist 2003-12-03 02:37 am UTC (link)
	Can I said 'word?' And to the Nick Cave too? It just proves ~~musical inspirations for deep dark angsty fic~~ some of my favorite artists are underappreciated. (Reply to this)

	isntitironic 2003-12-03 07:59 pm UTC (link)
	Offhand, I'd say that looks more like 'Top 500 Stupid Albums Joey's Sister Listens To'. Now I know exactly who 'Rolling Stone's target audience is. Where the hell is Great Big Sea's Play? (Reply to this)(Thread)

smo, 2003-12-03 10:29 pm UTC

	calico 2003-12-04 04:41 am UTC (link)
	While I'm happy all four Police albums made it, would it be wanky to complain that none of Sting's solo stuff did? Especially when Madonna's Music is on there??? (Reply to this)

livii
2003-12-05 04:40 am UTC (link)

Argh, I'm so late on this one, but I do have to say that some of the comments are beautiful. This is my favourite so far:

I guess I was going to fast but I didn't see Tool's AEnima.

So many meanings! You were fasting? Or, if you read it too quickly like I did, someone's tool gave you an enema? Dude, that must have hurt, my apologies.

Pretty wanky list overall, but nothing tops the people who didn't even freakin' bother to read it before complaining.

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	sorry to be so late, but.. (Anonymous) 2003-12-06 09:57 am UTC (link)
	Is there some kind of Godwin's Law like formula for the probability that any given argument will result in a 6 paragraph essay on freedom of speech? I think there needs to be. -- powdermonkey on lj. (Reply to this)

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