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Maura Labingi ([info]mauralabingi) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2003-12-03 19:11:00


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The heartbreak of the un-gamma-corrected.
I've seen plenty of "You don't love me enough!!!!!" wank before, but none quite like this.

Webcrowmancer writes fanfic. She also apparently draws or does photomanips or something. She seems like a nice enough person, she's well-liked in her fandoms, and her stuff's pretty good.

Then she sees her website on a decent monitor, and it all goes to hell in a tantrum of Gloria-Swanson-esque proportions.

Since deleting her entire website apparently failed to make her point, the drama is continued here, complete with many of Webcrowmancer's befuddled friends going "Whaaaaaaa---???"

She very nearly hits "tilt" on the Diva-Meter. Chris Gaines is impressed.

EDIT: And she deletes the wank about deleting the website. But wait!



4:55 pm - UN. BE. LIEV-ABLE
FUCK. I am so fucking fuckedly angry.

I am fucking F.U.R.I.O.U.S.

I am fucking shocked, and sick, really.

I happened to be near a friend's monitor today, and out of curiosity, I had a look at my site, because recently, my own monitor at home, that I work on, has had a lot of flickering and trouble with contrast and brightness settings. it's basically dying.

I was shocked and horrified to discover that all, ALL, of my artwork, manips, pics, collages, wallpaper and new graphics look like complete and utter fucking SHIT.

Yep. And not one single 'friend' has told me.

Even after I've ASKED THEM. They KNOW I've had problems with my monitor.

Wow. I feel rather betrayed, heartsick, nauseous from humiliation and embarassment, and finally, REALLY, really fucking Furious.

I have no idea why no one (even after I've even TOLD people that I was having screen problems and asked them if it looked ok on THEIR monitors) would bother to take the time to actually explain to me that, well, yes, Webcrow, your graphics DO look completely washed-out. They DO look as though you've been having trouble compensating for the contrast problem with the monitor, and Yeah, the jaggy edges are showing, the manips look completely pale and one can see *all* the edges.... In fact,

The pics and graphics all look like shit.

Why oh why, would no one have bothered to tell me??? A simple gesture would have sufficed. A simple little nudge, saying, AHEM, actually you're right, Webcrow. THey look really really pale and lightened. You NEED a new monitor obviously.

I am confused, hurt, angry, humiliated, and really quite upset.

By some serendipitous stroke of fortune, my PotC DVD came this afternoon, and so I shall withdraw to lick my wounds and pull the arrows out of my back, to watch this thing and generally wonder what it was that I did wrong, to make myself such a FUCKING unapproachable person, SO fucking obviously unapproachable and unfriendly, that no one could have the decency to actually say anything to me.

I doubt very much that everyone's monitors for example are set at 100% Contrast, 100%brightness and with their Cyan/Red/Yellow levels up to about 97 to 98%.

I doubt very much that anyone, ANYONE looking at some of the recent graphics I've produced could fail to miss the absolute bleached, washed-out and colourless appearance.

I also doubt that everyone has such a low standard of fanart that they could actually believe that I would be producing graphics like this on purpose. Especially after seeing the graphics I was producing before!!!!!!!

I am so hurt, so fucking furious and embarrassed, I really do not know what to say. I'm rather speechless. I feel stabbed in the back.

I've been making pics for people and they all say, "OOH, webcrow, that is so great, thank you so much,"

HAH. Really?

Does the idea of 'great' somehow come from the fact that it is better than anything they could produce themselves?? I find that hard to believe.

are they jealous at my attempts to create?

are they humoring me?

are they kissing ass because I write fanfic in such voluminous amounts?

I suffer from PTSD and a severe lack of self-confidence and self-esteem. I pride myself on being HONEST and truthful, and sincere with my friends.

Have I offended people by writing supposedly high-quality fic and making supposedly high-quality art?

I could cry, except that I can't SEEM to be able to cry just now because I feel so angry as well. I feel punched in teh stomach.

All the fiction that I've been writing...I suddenly have to wonder if people really do like it. Because if no one had the balls or the decency to say to my face, honestly, that my graphics look like bleached SHIT, how can I beleive that anyone really likes the fic?

I'm very confused, because I thought, I believed anyway, that when one says something is good, they MEAN it. I findn it really fucking hard to believe that anyone looking at all my art and graphics on my site (allll those hits LOL) could actually find them looking anything OTHER than washed out and with horrible jagged "obvious" manipped or cut/pasted edges all over. I mean, I'm EMBARASSED at how awful it all looks. I feel SICK aboutit.

My site's pages of late have all the appearance of being produced by someone with a vision problem.

I cannot believe that everyone else is BLIND.

So I am honestly fucking confused here.

I'm removing the offending html pages, and therefore retreating out of fandom into my little darkened room where I can take some time to try to understand the nature of humanity and fandom.

I shall immerse myself in the DVD and contemplate the nature of piracy.

Betrayal? yep. Check. Um,....mutiny? possibly.

Marooned, definitely.

Weighing anchor and setting sail for a bit, under a dark cloud.

Webcrow

current mood: infuriated



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[info]raisedbyhyenas
2003-12-04 02:35 am UTC (link)
Oh. My. Ooooooh. That is...that's...it's beeeaauuutiful. It's truly wank for the ages. You win.

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[info]rowan
2003-12-04 02:36 am UTC (link)
Whoa! That is some grade-A wankage, there! Warms me heart and soul!

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muzivitch
2003-12-04 02:42 am UTC (link)
I'd just like to say that I am deeply saddened by the fact that the wank has been deleted.

Where is my wank?

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[info]amand_r
2003-12-04 03:02 am UTC (link)
OMGWTF?!! I just looked outside at the emperor and he has no clothesy Why didn't anyone tell me! Ahhhhhhhhhh! ::sporks eyes out::

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[info]shoiryu
2003-12-04 03:06 am UTC (link)
...How many laws does this little rant break?

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[info]iczer6
2003-12-04 03:20 am UTC (link)
Good lord! This isn't just wank it's like porn star wank, from a 13 inch cock with a side of lesbian's french kissing.

I can understand the feeling of looking back on what you've written/drawn/etc and going WTF? Did I do that? Was I on drugs, possessed, temporarily insane?

But deleting it all and then blaming people for not utterly hating your stuff is just......

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(no subject) - [info]senor_pinata, 2003-12-04 03:23 am UTC

[info]ignatius
2003-12-04 03:28 am UTC (link)
Beautiful. "The nature of humanity"? Random PTST? Comparing her situation to piracy? POTC piracy.

My favorite part was when she put "friend" in quotation marks. Buuuuurn.

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[info]zannechaos
2003-12-04 03:46 am UTC (link)
While I do think her hissyfit is a little wanky, I'm not entirely sure she's not justified in it either.

If she did produce good quality work in the past, and reported monitor troubles and asked other people how things were looking since her monitor was off, is it really that much trouble to tell someone, "Yes, it does look off and it's not the same quality as your old work"?

It's like going out to the mall with a group of friends, and later finding out not a single one of them told you that there was something embarrassing about your appearance, like say, for example: something green between your teeth, a red stain on your white pants, a rip in your skirt showing your undies, etc. And you're walking all over the place oblivious to this, and later find out about it, and realize no one told you.

It's not quite as bad, perhaps, but the feeling's still the same. Especially if she DID ask friends to tell her if the artwork was off, and they didn't.

I'd wager she's more hurt and embarrassed than angry. After all, if you can't count on people you thought were your friends to watch your back, who can you count on?

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(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2003-12-04 04:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rebeccasama, 2003-12-05 10:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]beccastareyes, 2003-12-04 03:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]virago, 2003-12-04 08:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - rama_snark, 2003-12-05 06:19 am UTC

[info]alpheratz
2003-12-04 03:58 am UTC (link)
Huh. This just made me boggle. Mostly because I follow her fics and manips, and they look fine on my absolutely normal monitor.


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*boggle*
[info]smo
2003-12-04 04:25 am UTC (link)
Wow. I feel rather betrayed, heartsick, nauseous from humiliation and embarassment, and finally, REALLY, really fucking Furious.

Um. Sweetie? A little perspective here. It's a website, not a cheating husband. Take a walk around the block, go to a movie, and stop taking a freaking URL so seriously.

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(Anonymous)
2003-12-04 04:39 am UTC (link)
anyone else see a weird discrepancy between her "no one told me cause even when my stuff looks like crap, it's still better than anything they could do!" and "boohoo I have such low self esteem"?

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And I bring the gift of...the comments! Part One...
(Anonymous)
2003-12-04 04:58 am UTC (link)
knitmeapony
2003-12-03 15:14 (link)

Hey... this is Laurie, from the NDL list...

I never said anything because I figured you were working from bad bits for starters... so very few of the pics I've found as bases had any real quality, at least they hadn't up 'til now... I noticed the washed-out, and figured they'd get better once you had good source material from fan-produced screencaps.



jean_prouvaire
2003-12-03 15:18 (link)

Um...well, we *would* have told you they sucked, if not for one teensy problem--they don't.

I've never seen anything wrong with any of them. They all look fabulous to me. Whenever I see a new story of yours out, I squee extra-loudly, half for the writing and half for the glorious cover art.

Not one of your manips has ever looks crappy to me, on my own monitor or on any of the school monitors, which could make anything look washed-out and crappy.

Maybe the computer you looked at was just being weird. On my computer, they look beautiful.



teardrop69
2003-12-03 15:19 (link)

Wait!

Your manips are incredible. I'm not sure what's going on here, but I think it's miscommunication.

Would you like to talk? Send me an email, or maybe yahoo or aim or messenger?

Please don't feel betrayed. Let me tell you what I think is going on here, alright?



marquesate

2003-12-03 15:33 (link)
But... *shocked* But I don't understand!!!!

Why the hell do you think your artwork sucks? Why do you think your graphics look awful? Do you really believe that I would have told you I loved the pages you made for the Flu fics if I didn't MEAN what I said???

NEVER IN MY LIFE HAVE I NOT SAID WHAT I THINK!

Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

Your artwork does NOT suck, your graphics are NOT bad, why don't you believe us who think that they ARE beautiful?

Or maybe we are just morons? *sobs*

I cannot believe that everyone else is BLIND.

What??? What? Why? What on earth happened? I am not blind, do I have to apologise that I LIKE what you make?

Do you really believe I said that I love what you make, out of bigotry and backstabbing?

I am so shocked. Webcrowmancer, never, not ever, woud I have said ANYTHING I do not mean.

I am sorry that I am obviously blind or stupid, but I still like what you made.

You feel angry because we LIKE it? Oh God. I don't know what to say.

Never ever have I said anything I don't mean. In fact I am known for being the bitch who always says exactly what she means.

Please, what could I possibly do so that you believe me and us??? I don't suck up to people, not ever, I say what I think, we all do!

Or does it mean because we LOVE what you create, no matter if artwork or images, that we are idiots?

Gods I am confused. I don't know what to say. I... I just don't. I wish I could make you see your artwork with MY eyes and MY mind, and realise that I DO love it a lot.

I can only speak for myself but believe that others think the same.



o_O
sarracenia

2003-12-03 15:38 (link)
i haven't seen bleached-looking graphics or edges in manips, and i looked at yer site as late as yesterday. looked fine to me.

$0.02

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(Anonymous)
2003-12-04 04:58 am UTC (link)
holy shit. the NATURE of piracy. post traumatic stress disorder now means when someone doesnt tell you you suck, you have to go whimper and watch johnny depp be a pirate.

well shit, i was under the impression it meant you were fucked up in the head from some great past trauma...

-shimo

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...and Part Two
(Anonymous)
2003-12-04 04:58 am UTC (link)


metalkatt
2003-12-03 15:41 (link)
O_O Crow, love, calmate! Let me make something very, very clear... I use a very high-resolution LCD laptop monitor... I paid out the NOSE to have such hi-res for playing games. Your artwork fricking rocks upon it, and if it sucked on someone else's, that must mean they have a crappy monitor. If your art wasn't up to par, I would have told you *flashbacking to jack and Will in the water, happy mind-melting* because I can't stand poor manips. I'm not kissing your ass; I'm too freaking TIRED to kiss anyone's ass unless m' boys came over to my house, cleaned said house, then showered and bent over.

YOU TOOK DOWN THE PAGES??!! *whimper* How could you deprive the world of that? (Christ, I had "Seductive" on my computer for all of ten minutes and I had to take it off because I couldn't take my eyes off how frackin'g PRETTY it was!!)

B-betrayal? *feels pit of tummy drop out from under me* You don't understand, Crow... I saved every single one of those things I've seen you put out because they're so good... Life's too short to waste on crappy artwork, so this is a compliment!

(hey, hon, I have an extra copy of PoTC... don't ask... if you don't want to buy it in the store, I might be able to ship you my extra...)

Please don't run away from us! Please? We love you too much... you ARE talented--Whoever's monitor you saw was CRAP!!!

Spoonie~~herding crying plotbunnies



notuslethe
2003-12-03 16:26 (link)

Uhm, I haven't said much but I guess I felt the need to right now. As Editor-In-Chief for my school newspaper, I don't give a shit about people's feelings when their creations are crap.

If I didn't like your writing or your artwork/graphics, I would have told you. In mean angry words.

Actually, there have been so many times where I just squee with delight and can't form coherentness.

Don't ever think that any of us have been bull-shitting you. There's ff.net for that. Besides, this community seems to be pretty good about helping people and giving constructive critisism.

It kinda makes me angry that you'd have such little faith in our respect for you as an artist and our aversion to lying.

~Charisma

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[info]sidhebastardess
2003-12-04 06:08 am UTC (link)
Holy fuck. Suddenly . . . all compliments made to her are the evil backstabbing lies of jealous lesser minds who pretend to be her friends?

Liking her work = betraying her?

This girl is insane. Quite certifiable. My gods. (I do wish I could see her graphics in order to form an opinion, but I'll bet they looked just fine. Especially after reading the comments.)

Also, the angstyangsty melodramatic pirate metaphors at the end . . .

Weighing anchor and setting sail for a bit, under a dark cloud.

It doesn't get much more pathetic than this, folks.

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[info]terminal_frost
2003-12-04 06:14 am UTC (link)
Y'know, this is a situation that is easily remedied by going out and buying yourself a new monitor, if the old one you have is absolute shit.

And guess what? You don't have to pay a fortune to get one either!!

If I can get a monitor for a hundred bucks used, anyone can. Doesn't take all that long to save up the money either.

No need to go all hissy-fitty, diva-wangsty on us all.


Even if your friends didn't tell you your work was at, near or above par...

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(no subject) - [info]smo, 2003-12-04 01:20 pm UTC

[info]sidhebastardess
2003-12-04 06:21 am UTC (link)
Whoops, looks like she saw the error of her angsty ways. Well, sort of.

Check out her LJ.

I recognize the fault of pride, and the pitfalls of perfectionism. Maybe that is my lesson for the day. A lesson in maturing.

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(no subject) - [info]pet, 2003-12-04 06:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sidhebastardess, 2003-12-04 06:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2003-12-04 01:24 pm UTC
Re: - [info]pet, 2003-12-04 06:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sidhebastardess, 2003-12-04 10:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gaisce, 2003-12-05 05:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sagralisse, 2003-12-04 05:47 pm UTC

slimslash
2003-12-04 09:37 am UTC (link)
Your icon! So fabulous! Aaaaah!

And then this:

I am so hurt, so fucking furious and embarrassed, I really do not know what to say. I'm rather speechless.

Unfortunately, soooooooooo not the case.

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[info]dawnswalker
2003-12-04 10:14 am UTC (link)
"I'm removing the offending html pages, and therefore retreating out of fandom into my little darkened room where I can take some time to try to understand the nature of humanity..."

You know, back when I was living in a dorm in high school, our RC used to do something like this every so often... Only replace "removing the offending html pages" with "turning off my emergency pager and cell phone" and "retreating out of fandom" to "refusing to do anything for any reason".

And let me tell you, that woman had problems.

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[info]mirabellawotr
2003-12-04 02:39 pm UTC (link)
Dayum. That was a truly impressive temper tantrum. I would say that maybe she should have put off making graphics, or at least put off posting them, until she had a decent monitor, but you know. That would have deprived us of the wank, so it's all to the good.

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(Anonymous)
2003-12-04 03:40 pm UTC (link)
Diva alert go BOOM.

*stands at sides and laughs his ass off*

al_riddle from LJ

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hello from a _redpanda_ reader
(Anonymous)
2003-12-04 03:56 pm UTC (link)
Woah-hoah! We've reached Psycho Sector Five, Captain!

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allen
2003-12-04 04:08 pm UTC (link)
Ehh. The site's back up. I just went and looked. Not that good. Not that terrible, either. Certainly not worth the diva-hissy-fit. It's horrible to navigate, but that's a design problem, not a graphics issue.

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(no subject) - [info]arien, 2003-12-04 05:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2003-12-05 06:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]delfeus, 2003-12-12 07:22 pm UTC

[info]virago
2003-12-04 05:42 pm UTC (link)
Daaaamn. I mean, I've gotten pissy over old work that I think sucks, but damn. Perspective? What's that?

I feel so very sane and well-adjusted now. *basks*

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Wanking Reassurance - [info]deoridhe, 2003-12-04 05:51 pm UTC



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