virago
2003-12-09 08:36 pm UTC (link)

>>[blah blah] ...is like throwing dirt at someone in a white dress just because it looks so clean! Shame on you!>>

Meh. "They're just jeaaaaaalous."

Between this finger-wagging "Shame on you!" person and the water-bottle-stealing granny, this fandom is looking rather matronly. ;)

Yeah, it sucks to see something you like getting a bad review, but ultimately who cares if some random reviewer doesn't like it? 'Course I haven't read the review, but still. You can't take reviewers that seriously. They're professional opinionators. Chalk it up to differences of opinion, suck it up, and move on.

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	pet 2003-12-09 08:47 pm UTC (link)
	I didn't think it was possible, but the Grobannies seem to be challenging pop for the wankiest music-based fandom out there. Heh. And it's even funnier because they're combining the Pseudoclassical-Music-Elitist Wank with the Popstar-Sexobject-Fangirly Wank! I love it! (Reply to this)(Thread)

	eljuno 2003-12-09 08:53 pm UTC (link)
	I didn't think it was possible, but the Grobannies seem to be challenging pop for the wankiest music-based fandom out there. The fact that you ALL out wank the indie music fandom says a whole FUCK of a lot, I think...I keep thinking that we AREN'T the wankiest ones, then shuddering at what you guys have to be going through... Okay, and laughing at. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

pet
2003-12-09 09:16 pm UTC (link)

*grin* Then again, never in pop have I had to deal with "OMIGOD THEY SIGNED A RECORD DEAL MY LIFE IS OVAH!!11! SELLOUTS!!six11!@!", so I, too, have been known to count my blessings. It's the flavor of the wank that's different, I suppose (though I'll admit that spooge from a wanker on a steady diet of the Justin Timberlake vs. JC Chasez wars has a nasty acrid taste that I'm not at all fond of).

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	eljuno 2003-12-09 09:57 pm UTC (link)
	I really don't have much to say in response to that, but I just want to point out that it looks like your icon is staring down my icon and going "No, that's not true..." (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	pet 2003-12-09 10:11 pm UTC (link)
	laughing Well, he HAS been working out, I hear... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	eljuno 2003-12-09 11:00 pm UTC (link)
	What makes it BETTER is that they're all "bitch, are you for REAL?" type quotes... And, oh yeah. These poncy little New Yorkers could COMPLETELY beat up your made-up pretty boys... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

pet
2003-12-09 11:21 pm UTC (link)

I know! I think it's because these two make such great supercilious bitch faces, and just naturally lend themselves to that kind of quote.

And I dunno, man. Yours have that sort of half-starved hipster chic aura about them: it wears a pair of shredded corduroys nicely, but generally isn't so useful when the punches start flying. Mine, on the other hand, are forced by the Evol PR MACHINE!!11! to build all that teenie-attracting muscle, and synchronized dancing? It's like martial arts...in a way.

*grin*

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	eljuno 2003-12-09 11:42 pm UTC (link)
	Eh, eh, eh...I give you the video for "Someday", wherein the Strokes get into a fall-down bitchfight with Guided by Voices...remember, as a rule, indie boys got beat up during high school, even if their daddies owned modelling firms. So, they're prepared... Has YOUR band ever beaten up another band on film? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	allen 2003-12-09 11:52 pm UTC (link)
	They beat up a bunch of GI Joes in the "It's Gonna Be Me" video. Although they did lose in the end, they put in some pretty decent kung-fu action. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	eljuno 2003-12-10 12:38 am UTC (link)
	Actually, you know what? Let's just drop the whole thing. Make love, not war. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	allen 2003-12-10 12:48 am UTC (link)
	Oooooooooh, works for me. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	necronomist 2003-12-10 01:34 am UTC (link)
	I read it. I am trying really hard not to slash Mr. Casablanca with my fandom. growls He's too young for you, and you're a married man now, Mr. Elfman. No pretty indie boy for you. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	eljuno 2003-12-10 09:19 am UTC (link)
	Eh, if I've gotten suckered into writing Eminem/Jack White, you're not getting off THAT easily... Come on! Do it! You KNOW Julian'd sleep with Danny Elfman... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	smo 2003-12-11 04:47 pm UTC (link)
	And indeed, who among us would not? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	pet 2003-12-10 01:57 am UTC (link)
	I knew it had to exist! Excellent! Now someone's just gotta slash Josh Groban with both bands, and it'll be pure nirvana. Hee! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2003-12-09 10:45 pm UTC (link)
	Love the icon. And for the record, my crude, offensive, theatrically homoerotic all-boy band can kick the ass of your homoerotic all-boy band... with a flamethrower (http://herzeleid.com/en/gallery/*/till/display/1/3). :) --der_zwitter on LJ (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2003-12-11 05:09 am UTC (link)
	YES! YES! Someone else said it! With a flamethrower and a... nevermind. Shiplizard, also on LJ (Reply to this)(Parent)

	rhi_silverflame 2003-12-09 10:58 pm UTC (link)
	What I love is that they seem to have missed the not-so-subtle jab at them by EW when they published the letter under the header "Oh, Groban Up!" (Reply to this)(Thread)

	mariagoner 2003-12-11 05:07 am UTC (link)
	Heh. Heh. Heh. His fangirls all be twelve, y'all! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	musette 2003-12-09 11:59 pm UTC (link)
	Fandom? I have no fandom. ::quietly takes live DVD out of DVD player and turns off stereo with the new album on it:: (Reply to this)(Thread)

	darkrose 2003-12-10 12:22 am UTC (link)
	I won't rat on you if you don't rat on me. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	isntitironic 2003-12-10 12:31 am UTC (link)
	It's okay... we won't let them ruin it for us. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: musette 2003-12-10 04:20 am UTC (link)
	I think we have an agreement. ::nods resolutely:: We shall never speak of this again. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	your icon lolibot 2003-12-10 04:05 am UTC (link)
	aghhh cambridge spies so good. ::can't form coherent sentences:: spies. intrigue. GAY LOVE AFFAIRS! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: your icon musette 2003-12-10 04:22 am UTC (link)
	::fangirls communist sympathizers spastically:: How can you not love something with lots of canon gay sex, angst from here to Timbuktu, Sam West being a snotty bitch, Toby Stephens just being so fucking beautiful he can't be real, and Tom Hollander being tiny and cute and angsty and half insane and lovable all at the same time? I DEFY anyone not to love it. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	it is amazing lolibot 2003-12-10 04:35 am UTC (link)
	oh, thank you, gods of the bbc! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: it is amazing musette 2003-12-10 05:03 am UTC (link)
	My friends in the UK and Australia raved and raved about it when it was first on there and I was so worried that BBC America wasn't going to show it. I'm a little surprised they showed it here so fast and released the DVD in the North Am. format, but I'm thrilled. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: it is amazing beckalina 2003-12-11 11:38 am UTC (link)
	THERE'S A DVD?!?!?!??!?! ahem I watched, like, three episodes in a row and fell in love. But I work all night, every night, and haven't been able to watch it since. But! DVD! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: it is amazing musette 2003-12-11 10:16 pm UTC (link)
	Yes, DVD! All hail gods of Amazon and BBC actually releasing something in North American format! I also think BBC America is reshowing them Saturday nights until like... January if you happen to be home one of those things. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: your icon trismegistus 2003-12-10 06:35 am UTC (link)
	...Canon gay spies? What's this, and where has it been all my life? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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musette
2003-12-10 06:57 am UTC (link)

Cambridge Spies, BBC miniseries about (real life) Cambridge students who were recruited by the Soviets to spy for them pre-WWII and into the 1940s. Incredibly well written, well acted, and generally sexay. Two of the spies were openly gay (thus the canon gay), of the other two one was incredibly neurotic and one slept his way through Europe before ending up married to the other straight one's ex-wife.

Seriously, you couldn't make up a better story.

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	Re: your icon trismegistus 2003-12-10 10:06 am UTC (link)
	Great googly moogly, I must track this show down. Is it available in the States? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: your icon musette 2003-12-10 09:25 pm UTC (link)
	It was just on BBC America, and the region one DVDs are out I think the 11th. Sometime very soon, pre-Christmas. I seriously cannot pimp this thing enough, it's so good. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	oxydosic 2003-12-10 03:33 pm UTC (link)
	I've had to listen to only a small portion of one of his songs over and over at work, as it's part of this continuous loop tape we have playing on the TVs in the electronics section. I wasn't impressed. Granted, i'm not into that kind of music anyway, but to me he just seemed to be singing loudly without much sense of tone. hides from vengeful Groban fans (Reply to this)(Thread)

	isntitironic 2003-12-10 05:41 pm UTC (link)
	Fortunately for you, it's a members-only messageboard, and I won't give them the URL to this place because mocking the fools is my secret revenge. You're safe! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	mariagoner 2003-12-11 05:10 am UTC (link)
	Yeah... I pretty much agree with you. Mind you, I like many of his songs. But I still fine the insane, gibbering, weasel-monkey love he inspires a little... odd. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Go Go Groban henshin. :o guildenstern 2003-12-12 12:16 am UTC (link)
	I love Josh Grobans' music. I even think he himself is pretty neat. I even cruise the message boards sometimes. But I will commit hara kiri with a spork before I become the fountain of wank that these girls have. :X Um. OMG. My love is so...innocent? Non-stalker oriented. Polite? XD (Reply to this)(Thread)

	Re: Go Go Groban henshin. :o (Anonymous) 2003-12-12 02:34 am UTC (link)
	Sorry but... icon love! Who knew Cloud in 3-D could be so... hot? Tifa and Aeris must have been chasing him for a good reason after all! -Mariagoner (Reply to this)(Parent)