Apparently, Even the Undead can Wank Now...
... And to think, we all used to think fans of Vampire: the Masquerade were really a nice, peaceable bunch.

What happens when an actual game developer (Justin Achilli) barges into a not-completely-flattering conversation about him in the Nocturnis.net forums?

http://www.nocturnis.net/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=6064&s=36b9df7673bba5e46dc4d9eaa6af282c

Concentrated Wankery, that's what! Though even I can't decide whether Achilli or the "adoring fans of work" were wankier.

Achilli did say this to criticism about one of his books:
"Isabel could have been more" is not a valid criticism. Yes, it's a valid expression of your personal tastes, but an novel I write is never going to reflect your tastes. You might as well take Star Wars to task because you really wanted Indiana Jones to have a greater role in it.

Apparently he thinks criticism is never valid unless... it isn't an expression of personal tastes? What? (BTW-- I was the person who made that "personal opinion"-- Marzipan.)

and

Maryuoh, you're actually why I don't bother much with ELN anymore. Too much posturing here and not enough actual content. There's a guy over in another thread complaining about how our games are "inconsistent," and had all his points countered by actual quotes from books. So much pissing and pessimism -- I usually frequent forums where the people don't spend so much time bitching about the things that ostensibly entertain them. Then again, it's easy to complain.

But his adoring fans did say things such as:

fabiolen: "About time someone punched him in the face a few times."

Insomniac: "Wow. I insulted you last summer on ELN and all I got was some Mod telling me to shut up. Does this mean you like Fabio more than you like me?"

And well... plenty more insults carefully crafted in passive-agressive language, since suddenly insulting Justin Achilli or his work became carefully monitered by him and the mods...

This is a very intricate and hard to understand wank... but I was told it's a good case of Ebert's law in action, so I just had to submit it to y'all.


Also, bonus self-wank. I thought it was too small to go into I_Wank, so I'm including it here. It starts at the end of page 8 at this thread.
http://www.nocturnis.net/forums/index.php?s=e6f7bea3dae299d6166a024a0cec18d8&act=ST&f=2&t=6047&st=105

I (Marizpan) said (after 3 pages of pointless argument):
Okay. I think I'm just going to stop arguing with you because I think I've already refuted all of your points, and you've already refuted mine. We've laid our poistions down the line and we're not going to budge at this point... In any case, it certainly was nice talking with you and hippie jesus over there. K thnx bye.

To Which SirGrvsaLot Replied:
...
This is a response to my response to your misrepresentation of my argument. You "refute" my post by picking the most trifling and inconsequential thing imaginable. Please.

Since you forfeit, I declare myself the winner of this argument.

And then every thing blowed the fook up.

Enjoy the carnage people!