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The Other Dubya ([info]misswindy) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-01-01 23:57:00


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Current mood:Fan-Fucking-tastic
Entry tags:baleetion, elitism, enormous clusterfuck, gay, pairing wars, reality tv, rps

Quite Literally the Mother of All Clay Aiken Wanks

Edited for clarity's sake and/or to avoid the C_A wank from coming HERE.

You guys have probably all heard of the LOTR tinhat brigade that honestly believe that Dominic Monaghan and Elijah Wood are having a gay love affair that is being cruelly oppressed by the Eval New Line PR machine. But most people don't know that the American Idol fandom also has its very own nearly identical brigade of tinhattery. Loosely known as/ gathered at the Cleegirls, a closed community for Clay Aiken fans who met on the LJ community [info]clay_aiken, who congregate in chat rooms, most of whom sincerely seem to believe Clay is gay and having a secret affair with American Idol host Ryan Seacrest. Though there is now the beginnings of some minor backpedaling, folks from this group can be seen all over the AI fandom on LJ engaging in such charming activities as, for example, calling anyone who does NOT think it's probable or possible that Clay and Ryan are in lurrrve to be "homophobes," hopelessly naive, and "narrow-minded bigots." Echoes of MsA, anyone?

No, really. Seriously, stop laughing. And I don't just mean in RPS, of which there is an impressive amount although I think Clay/Simon is hotter. I'm not talking about the RPS slashers, obviously; I'm referring to the people who really and truly believe that Clay and Ryan are MENT2B4EVAHOMG!!!!11twelve!!! and hiding it due to the oppressive American Idol PR machine. Although I must point out that the slashers and the tinhats aren't two mutually exclusive groups at this point.



Probably the largest, most mainstream contingent of Clay fen tend to be moderate to conservative Christians, which is how Clay Aiken normally publically identifies, too, as do all of his best friends, who also were the people who have been spearheading his entire fandom since his first appearance on the show. Naturally this has lead to MONTHS of ongoing wank between "Cleegirls", and the rest of Clay's fans including people who have friendships with members of his family and immediate circle of friends (!!!!).

The "Is he or isn't he?" question has been brought up (and flambeed) so often that it's now called Bob, the Clay Aiken Sexuality Dead Horse, in the fandom. Naturally this has pitted Clay Aiken BNFs on either side against each other.

Given what we know of tinhat behavior, paranoia, and penchant for baseless accusation, I'll give y'all 3 guesses as to which side's been providing 95% of the wank.

Sooo... over on The Clay Aiken LJ Community, teenaged user [info]sexystace is apparently now sexy AND pregnant, a fact which she mentions in every post. She's a "Cleegirl" and a BNF Ryan/Clay tinhat shipper, and she's really mad that [info]tingilya and [info]notthatlucky (who are more "vanilla" Clay fans, for lack of a better description) don't like her, and posted now-friends-locked posts (damn it!) about what a whiny irrational twat they thought she was. OK, I'm savagely paraphrasing there, but suffice it to say, she's not wrong that they don't like her. So, to disprove the rumor that she's a whiny irrational twat, it became obvious to [info]sexystace that the logical thing to do was to throw a massive tantrum on the C_A LJ community about how mean the two girls were for not liking her and calling her a beeyotch. Because all 677 members of that community care. She also adds that this is in no way associated with the vanilla/tinhat drama going on... and then mentions her support of the [info]cleegirls in her post AND all the comments. "It's not because you're not into Clay/Ryan shipping - it's because you're a mean assclown... and also, not into Clay/Ryan shipping."

Even her friends thought her tantrum was way out of line, though, and they tell her so in the post, and - people, it took me like an hour to stop laughing at this - [info]sexystace became so upset about the wank that it is apparently CAUSING HER TO GO INTO PREMATURE LABOR!!!! AAAAAAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

Then in steps the lone voice of reason, asking why people can't post about disliking people in their own LJs, who is promptly smacked the fuck down, of course.

But that's not the end of the wank. Apparently there's elitist snobbery happening among the ranks of the tinhats, complete with accusations of cliquishness and pleas to think about THE CHILDREN instead. And that lovely bit of "Can't we all just get along you pain in the ass bitches" wank came courtesy of someone who was typing the whole rant with a broken hand.

I'm almost tempted to direct the Clyan shippers over to DataLounge and seeing if this time next year they're getting color-coded messages from Clay's socks...

ETA: BAHLETED! It appears that someone complained to the mods and the whole thing got taken down. If anyone saved it, please do post it. Otherwise, y'all missed a wank of beautiful, epic proportions. *wipes tear*



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[info]rann
2004-01-02 07:42 am UTC (link)
sexystace became so upset about the wank that it is apparently causing her to go into LABOR!!!!

Now the baby premature from wank.

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[info]misswindy
2004-01-02 07:46 am UTC (link)
*laughs for another hour*

Dude. LABOR!!!!!!

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(no subject) - [info]mariagoner, 2004-01-02 08:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2004-01-02 06:28 pm UTC

[info]rogue
2004-01-02 07:52 am UTC (link)
Oh, but it is an excuse... if you had an 8 pound baby pressing against YOUR cervix then you'd be a bitch too. So just shut your stupid fucking mouth and get a goddamn life. NO ONE LIKES YOU.

... *dead*

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[info]mariagoner
2004-01-02 08:04 am UTC (link)
Wow. And I used to fear I'd never see any good, ripe, AI wank till the start of the third season!

Thank you, Claymates around the world. I should have known better than to think you'd let me down! :D

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[info]split
2004-01-02 08:04 am UTC (link)
This is just too precious to miss.

STACEY. IS. 40. WEEKS. PREGNANT.
STACEY. HAS. HORMONES. FROM. HELL.
STACEY. TELLS. IDIOTS. TO. SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP. BUT. THEY. HAVE. TO. KEEP. RUNNING. THEIR. STUPID. MOUTHS.
IF. YOU. WOULD. SHUT. UP. AND. GET. A. FUCKING. LIFE. THEN. THIS. COULD. BE. AVOIDED.


AND ...

Hey Queen of Everything: stop shit talking a pregnant woman, you pompous asshole. Just because you'll never get a man to touch you doesn't mean you have to project onto Stacey.

*laughs, just laughs*

Is this Stacey bitch FOR REAL?

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(no subject) - [info]mariagoner, 2004-01-02 08:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]zee, 2004-01-02 08:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mariagoner, 2004-01-02 08:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]zee, 2004-01-02 08:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mariagoner, 2004-01-02 08:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-01-02 08:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]zee, 2004-01-02 08:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]deslea, 2004-01-02 12:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]zee, 2004-01-02 02:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-01-02 02:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2004-01-05 10:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]oxydosic, 2004-01-02 05:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2004-01-02 10:32 pm UTC

[info]mirabellawotr
2004-01-02 08:05 am UTC (link)
I love how she's the only person in the world who has ever been pregnant and no one else can possibly know what it feels like, and the little princess absolutely must get carte blanche to act as screamingly petty and childish as she sees fit because she's carrying Little Princess Jr. Gonna be a nasty shock to her when that kid's born and she finds that it means she has to grow up and deal with not being the center of attention anymore.

And also, Jesus, PR must seriously do nothing else but oppress The Gay. That must be what they teach you in PR school. I envision row upon row of jackbooted PR goons in training, like some sort of PR Quantico, receiving special forces training in field oppression and hours of training in Secret Gay Code-cracking. Maybe they have one of those Hogan's Alley things where they advance through a mockup of WeHo and have to shoot pop-up effigies of Liberace and Oscar Wilde while taking care not to shoot standees of Sean Bean and Harrison Ford. Screw organizing press junkets, the real job satisfaction in PR comes when you do a night drop out of a Harrier jet, scramble through the underbrush making weird hand signals to each other, converge on Clay Aiken's house, burst in through the windows, and three of you hold Aiken with your Orangekiller combat knives while the rest of you go through his wardrobe and replace all the pastels with logger plaid.

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(no subject) - [info]tigerlily, 2004-01-02 08:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]musette, 2004-01-02 08:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosalita, 2004-01-02 08:20 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-01-02 08:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-01-02 08:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mirabellawotr, 2004-01-03 08:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]del_p, 2004-01-02 01:37 pm UTC

[info]tigerlily
2004-01-02 08:07 am UTC (link)
DUDE! As a sexy Clay fan named Stacey, how dare she ruin my good name! -sniffles-

Should the Clyan kids be called Tinthats or something like that. They do use foil when the frost Ryans tips...those over done tips.

And is there a law about the hormone defense? Cause yeah that's teh suck.

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(no subject) - [info]diamonde, 2004-01-02 09:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dawnswalker, 2004-01-02 10:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2004-01-02 10:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lavenderfrost, 2004-01-03 08:33 am UTC

[info]musette
2004-01-02 08:12 am UTC (link)
I think this may become the wank by which all subsequent wanks are judged. Was there a major wankdom law that wasn't hit? I swear, if somebody mentioned Hitler I was going to bust something.

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(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-01-02 08:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]musette, 2004-01-02 08:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-01-02 08:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-01-02 08:38 am UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-01-02 08:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]zee, 2004-01-02 09:15 am UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-01-02 09:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]zee, 2004-01-02 09:20 am UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-01-02 09:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-01-02 09:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]zee, 2004-01-02 09:40 am UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-01-02 09:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-01-02 02:17 pm UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-01-03 12:42 am UTC

[info]smo
2004-01-02 08:36 am UTC (link)
Holy mother of Christ on a cracker. I knew there was a conspiracy theory about Clay having really "won" AI and the whole thing being rigged, but this enters an entirely new dimension of tinhattery.

although I think Clay/Simon is hotter

Nah, I don't think Simon would ever play uke to a contestant. Now Randy, on the other hand...

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(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-01-02 09:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-01-02 09:15 am UTC

[info]zee
2004-01-02 08:37 am UTC (link)
I cannot stop giggling over this! You could have just posted a link to the community, and that would have been funny enough on its own. Add the possibly fake pregnancy/labor (or she's just so stupid she doesn't know what a contraction is), hormones of the devil, and someone so obsessed with "teh drama" that she types all that with a broken hand and then complains about it to get her hug count up, and I'm about to pull something. Ohh, my sides...! XD

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(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2004-01-02 06:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]zee, 2004-01-02 10:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mireille, 2004-01-03 02:17 am UTC

[info]arien
2004-01-02 08:40 am UTC (link)
I loved Stacey's equally stupid friend coming in to defend her against the horrible mean Voice of Reason. "You're ugly and Stacey's not and you're just jealous 'cuz she's got a babydaddy and you don't!"

I feel sorry for the kid, I really do.

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(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-01-02 08:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tigerlily, 2004-01-02 08:45 am UTC

[info]mooncalf
2004-01-02 09:34 am UTC (link)
Bob, the Clay Aiken Sexuality Dead Horse

As beautiful and far-reaching as this wank is, this is what made me snork Dr. Pepper out my nose. That's the best phrase I've heard all year. (Shut up! I know it's January 2nd!)

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(no subject) - [info]msilverstar, 2004-01-02 07:56 pm UTC

[info]gaisce
2004-01-02 09:53 am UTC (link)
...At least they don't suspect the truth. That Clay Aiken and Josh Groban are secret lovers. Because if they did the world would be destroyed by the indignant screeches of their fans.

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(no subject) - [info]mariagoner, 2004-01-02 11:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-01-02 11:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mydemand, 2004-01-02 03:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kimera, 2004-01-03 03:51 am UTC
Re: - [info]mydemand, 2004-01-03 06:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-01-02 04:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2004-01-02 06:10 pm UTC

[info]zee
2004-01-02 10:48 am UTC (link)
Awww, deleted! Someone complained and the mods actually came through right away. Guess they were just waiting for a sign.

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(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-01-02 11:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seventy_three, 2004-01-02 02:49 pm UTC

[info]mydemand
2004-01-02 02:55 pm UTC (link)
There is a fatal flaw with this wank.

The Cleegirls are NOT the slashers of the AI fandom. The Cleegirls met through online chats.

The slashers of the AI fandom are the Lollies (http://www.livejournal.com/community/lollipopclay), who have managed to stay wank-free so far. We DO NOT force it into anyone's head that Clay could or could not be gay; we just like writing and reading slash fic about it.

B*B, Tiara
A Lollipop Girl

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(no subject) - [info]mydemand, 2004-01-02 03:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-01-02 03:15 pm UTC
Re: - [info]mydemand, 2004-01-02 04:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-01-02 04:17 pm UTC
Re: - [info]mydemand, 2004-01-02 05:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-01-02 03:09 pm UTC
Re: - [info]mydemand, 2004-01-02 04:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-01-02 04:30 pm UTC
Woe is me
(Anonymous)
2004-01-02 03:46 pm UTC (link)
Gods there are days (weeks, months, years) I hate my fandom. Can I start a single-member Clay fandom instead?

~Panya aka naienko-on-lj

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Re: Woe is me - [info]misswindy, 2004-01-02 04:14 pm UTC
Re: Woe is me - (Anonymous), 2004-01-02 04:35 pm UTC
Re: Woe is me - [info]misswindy, 2004-01-02 04:38 pm UTC
Re: Woe is me - (Anonymous), 2004-01-02 04:48 pm UTC
Re: Woe is me - [info]deoridhe, 2004-01-02 09:46 pm UTC
Re: Woe is me - (Anonymous), 2004-01-02 10:10 pm UTC
Re: Woe is me - [info]deoridhe, 2004-01-03 08:37 pm UTC
Re: Woe is me - [info]tigerlily, 2004-01-02 10:14 pm UTC
Re: Woe is me - (Anonymous), 2004-01-03 04:20 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-01-02 03:55 pm UTC (link)
Hi. This is LJ user nurv. I'm sorry for deleting the post, no It wasn't because someone complained, I actually warned sexystace then deleted the post, but I didn't see the next post for a few mins after, but I'm sorry for not saving it or anything :/

I wouldn't be posting Anonumous if I had a code, oops.

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(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-01-02 04:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]zee, 2004-01-02 10:13 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-01-02 04:00 pm UTC (link)
Hi. I am a member of the clay_aiken comm. over in LJ, and I just want to say... THANK YOU. Everything you said? Exactly what I thought. I love you forever. The end.

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[info]norabombay
2004-01-02 05:24 pm UTC (link)
This I find just sad.

I thought Clay would have better taste. Cause after his New Years Special, I'm 100% convinced that Ryan Seacrest is a bigger tool than Carson Daly.


Of course, since for some reson my favorite pairing of late has been Britney/Lance, I think I'm not allowed to talk about anyone else's pairings. Ever.

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(no subject) - allen, 2004-01-02 05:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]norabombay, 2004-01-02 05:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2004-01-02 06:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]norabombay, 2004-01-02 06:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-01-03 02:04 am UTC

allen
2004-01-02 05:29 pm UTC (link)
I'm really confused. Tinhattery about Teh Real Gay, and [info]tingilya is involved? She's, uh, more than a little anti-slash (though not enough to steal media and such put out by slashers, then complain about how awful slashers are)...

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(no subject) - [info]mydemand, 2004-01-02 05:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - allen, 2004-01-02 05:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tigerlily, 2004-01-02 10:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thoms, 2004-01-03 04:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-01-05 09:10 am UTC
(no subject) - allen, 2004-01-05 03:19 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-01-02 09:17 pm UTC (link)
I deleted my original comment to Stacey, because I know that LJ emails the comments as soon I post them, and I felt our dispute should be between us. I do, however, have her response to me, which has some good wank in it too. I'm glad you guys had so much fun with this. =D

--Danielle/notthatlucky
P.S. - Windy! Can I have a code too? You look really pretty today...

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[info]byagghametta
2004-01-02 09:51 pm UTC (link)
Someday I too shall find a reason to be a tinhat.

They're too amusing for me to not want to be one. XD

Also, I enjoy the term tinhat.

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[info]dawnswalker
2004-01-02 10:41 pm UTC (link)
sexystace became so upset about the wank that it is apparently CAUSING HER TO GO INTO PREMATURE LABOR!!!!

We have failed Charles Darwin... Well, at least today.

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(Anonymous)
2004-01-03 01:48 am UTC (link)
I've been resisting for weeks, but I must ask... I understand what a BNF is but I'm afraid I have no idea what the anagram itself stands for...

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-01-03 03:28 am UTC

[info]sarajayechan
2004-01-05 10:55 pm UTC (link)
*CHOKE*

Now THAT'S new. I've heard of BNFs and tinhats and whiners claiming they were dying or had cancer or were suicidal or on drugs or about to kill themselves in front of the webcam for all to see, but premature labor? O_o

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