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	lcsbanana 2003-04-05 07:15 am UTC (link)
	Oh christ. Tingilya/Danielle is neither scottish/irish/english/what-the-fuck-ever. She's a psycho cunt. But the other person is still a belligerent idiot! It's like they were made for each other. Why, why, why can nobody ever accept new information about the world without getting bitchy about not knowing it before? INCORPORATE LESSON AND MOVE ON. meeeehhhhhhh. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	potter_wank 2003-04-05 07:27 am UTC (link)
	I've heard the popslash nightmare stories about tingilya/danielle. But they are both so very, very, very entertaining, no? (Reply to this)(Parent)

sorchar
2003-04-05 09:07 am UTC (link)

*blinks* I'm a "southerner of British/Irish/Scottish descent", as

tingilya says, and the only times I've ever used British spellings is when I was going through my "God, I wish I was from England" phase in my teens.

Mind you, the other person was incorrect in trying to correct her spelling...but when I see an American using British spellings, unless they've spent a long time in Canada or the UK, I tend to think "poser." 'Cause God knows, I was a poser when I was in that phase.

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ipomoea
2003-04-05 09:29 am UTC (link)

Another southerner of British Isles descent here, and I've NEVER heard the "it's a cultural thing" before. Ever. Unless maybe you live in a little pocket of Appalachia or something, where the culture hasn't changed in years, I don't think it's a "Southern thing" to use British spellings.

Confession time: I admit to spelling words that way on occasion though. To me they're interchangeable, I don't have any preference for one over the other, and if I've been particularly heavy with reading Brit lit sometimes I'll slip into the spellings. So I'm a poseur too.

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sorchar
2003-04-05 09:39 am UTC (link)

Well, I'll put it this way. If it's something you do without really thinking about it, you're not a poser. If it's something you do deliberately, you're a poser, at least IMHO.

And believe me, I've got roots deep in Appalachia and the British spellings thing doesn't hold water there, either. Now, there is a small island off Virginia where the natives supposedly have British accents (I never made it out there, so I don't know firsthand if it's true) but I've never heard of them using British spellings.

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gairid
2003-04-05 02:29 pm UTC (link)

Tangier Island, isn't it? I went there with my family when I was in my mid-teens. The islanders supposedly spoke a form of Elizabethan English, but to me they just sounded...Southern. To be fair, it wasn't like I had huge conversations with anyone there (being 15 at the time and of course way too cool to *care*) but my mother did and she didn't think anyone she spoke to sounded British, either. Could be we didn't hear the right people,I guess.

As for Americans...even Southerners of Brit/Irish descent...using Brit spelling? I don't think so...comes across as an affectation IMHO.

Good wank, though, because those two really got it on there. Also loved the whole wanky "I didn't know using caps was *shouting*, I was trying to EMPHASIZE" thang...most amusing.

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lcsbanana
2003-04-05 04:00 pm UTC (link)

As for Americans...even Southerners of Brit/Irish descent...using Brit spelling? I don't think so...comes across as an affectation IMHO.

'Affectation' is *exactly* the right word to describe Danielle. Check out her profile, flip through her entries--the most horrifying ones are retro-locked, but you get a good dose of 'what-the-FUCK?' nonetheless. And the gone-quiet unpleasant bitch of *nfandom, god bless her black little heart, preserved one particularly WTF-moment in perpetuity.

She's obsessive about the South and her heritage. Posted a now-locked message on MLK Jr day that she was celebrating Robert E. Lee's birthday instead because he was 'the better man.' I really intensely loathe this woman.

So, yes. Affectation. Because she's descended from SCOTTISH PEOPLE. That means she's WHITE. No dirty French or Spanish blood in her, no SIR. White white white! Would one of those funny brown people spell their words with an S? There you go.

must sleep. must calm hate. must lower blood pressure.

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	ipomoea 2003-04-05 07:49 pm UTC (link)
	French blood is dirty? Oh no, I'm UNCLEAN! wails (Reply to this)(Parent)

	gairid 2003-04-06 12:57 am UTC (link)
	Oh NO!! My pure lily-white Scots-Irish blood is tainted with French and Hungarian blood! Shall I kill myself now? Racist bigots are probably the wankiest people of them all. going to read the scary woman's journal (Reply to this)(Parent)

sorchar
2003-04-06 01:45 am UTC (link)

Good Lord. She'd get along with some of my family very well, unfortunately.

And in Virginia, I kid you not, they call it Lee-Jackson-King Day.

It's one thing to be proud of your heritage. Hell, I'm all about the Scottish music and Celtic mythology - though I draw the line at haggis - and I'm damn proud that my ancestors managed to scrape a living out of the Blue Ridge Mountains, help unionize the coal miners, and make better lives for their kids.

But even growing up in the South, with a mother who was a Civil War history buff (and distinctly South-biased) I never, ever got the whole "The South will rise again" thing.

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	tempslut 2003-04-06 06:56 am UTC (link)
	Maybe the South's a penis? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: sorchar 2003-04-06 07:08 am UTC (link)
	Well, I've certainly known many a Southern dickhead in my time. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	lexin 2003-04-07 02:18 pm UTC (link)
	Haggis? Haggis is wonderful, it's the food of the gods. Not kidding, it's fanastic. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: sorchar 2003-04-07 07:14 pm UTC (link)
	I'll take your word for that. :) (Reply to this)(Parent)

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sorchar
2003-04-05 10:21 pm UTC (link)

Yep, Tangier Island...And since I never went, I never verified the accent thing, so that's interesting to me. Back in the hills where my people are from, they still use Elizabethan words like "yonder" but that's slowly dying out because of television.

And yeah, that was pretty amusing, the whole "Stop shouting!" "I didn't know I was shouting!" "It's netiquette!" thing. Gah.

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kirarose
2003-04-05 04:11 pm UTC (link)

When I was writing Potter fiction I purposely had two Brit betas but still retained American spelling because I have enough spelling issues without adding Brit ones too. LOL. Bad enough I ended up getting to the point that when I would switch back to writing a fandom that takes place in the US I would have to sit there and think. "Is this a Brit expression or American?"

When I was in school though, I did have an English teacher who did teach us to spell both ways. So for years I had the extra u's in things and stuff. But then when I went to a new school... suddenly my spelling was shot to shit because I was spelling things 'wrong'.

BB

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sajasma
2003-04-06 06:16 am UTC (link)

Ye Gods. I have a professor right now who is this little old British man named Martin Fido who writes books about Agatha Christie, Jack the Ripper, and such fun classics as a Murder Guide to London and Medical Surgical Nightmares (You can check him out on Amazon, seriously). He marks all my papers for American spelling, so now I do the Brit-spelling thing. It has totally fucked me up on all my other papers though.

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	nita 2003-04-06 08:00 am UTC (link)
	Your professor is Martin Fido!! Cool. As for British spellings....about half the time I do Brit-spelling and half the time American. Certain words like "theatre" I normally write Brit-style. I have a non-poser excuse: that's the way my dad taught me (I don't know why he wrote that way). It got reinforced when I went to college (briefly) in the UK. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	renjenri 2003-04-05 07:56 pm UTC (link)
	Similar confession -- If I've been chatting to Brits/Canucks/Aussies/Kiwis (and yes, I have all of them on my friends list), I invert my Es and Rs and start adding in my Us. It's really intentional, just that I'll get used to seeing it that way. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sorchar 2003-04-06 01:46 am UTC (link)
	Me too, and that's what I'm sayin'. If it's unintentional, it's one thing. If you're doing it on purpose because you think it somehow makes you all that, then you're a poser. And I can say that because I've done it. ;) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	lasayla 2003-04-05 02:01 pm UTC (link)
	I use color, flavour, center and theatre. HTML has permanently fucked up my spelling. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: sorchar 2003-04-05 10:18 pm UTC (link)
	giggles Yay for HTML! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	prettypinkkitty 2003-04-05 10:36 am UTC (link)
	Whatever it is, I'm just glad he left. Did I just admit I watch that show? runs away And I'm sure she's encountered more hostile people in the big religion conflict of last year. (Reply to this)

	madmouth 2003-04-06 03:22 am UTC (link)
	setting aside my obvious cynicism towards the human race after examples of such mindless bickering, I cannot get over the fact that people. miss. COREY. fucking COREY! aaaaaargh! is there no sanity left?! (Reply to this)(Thread)

	misswindy 2003-04-06 10:51 am UTC (link)
	I cannot get over the fact that people. miss. COREY. fucking COREY! aaaaaargh! is there no sanity left?! Come on, now, deaf 12 year olds have a right to an opinion too, you know! (Reply to this)(Parent)