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Anti-Vehicle Rocket ([info]eiviiaru) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-01-22 15:33:00


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Fanficrants Wanks On About Shota
Ah, good ol' FanficRants. The rants are often good fun in and of themselves, and even when they aren't, there's usually good wank to be gotten out of it.

For example, here's a rant about shotakon and how liking it means you're a 'peadophile.' Or maybe it doesn't -- maybe you can like shota but not be a pedophile, but still, shota should be "labeled as what it is" so you feel suitable shame about reading it. Or whatever.

The resulting commentary wank delves into a great many issues -- the credibility of statistics quoted on talk shows, how precisely you have to 'like' shota fics to be a pedophile, what the smutfic you enjoy says about you (or, "if you get turned on by femslash and you're a girl, are you a lesbian?"), physical and mental "childhood" in shota, and whether everyone really wants to do what they fantasize about. Sadly, in all these weighty issues, the correct spelling of "pedophilia" is never discussed.

Caveat wanker: this is, for the most part, reasonably well-contained, and actual snarking at each other happens rarely. Still, this is fairly impressive and intricate wankery.



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[info]shoiryu
2004-01-22 10:54 pm UTC (link)
Is that girl STILL wanking about shota? Jesus.

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[info]maryavatar
2004-01-22 11:01 pm UTC (link)
Over here it's paedophilia ;)

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[info]phosfate
2004-01-22 11:05 pm UTC (link)
That poor woman in your icon has a very large nose.

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(no subject) - [info]maryavatar, 2004-01-23 12:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mael, 2004-01-23 01:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2004-01-23 01:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]maryavatar, 2004-01-23 01:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]delfeus, 2004-01-23 07:39 pm UTC

[info]eiviiaru
2004-01-23 12:09 am UTC (link)
I have no problem with "paedophilia." It's the peadophilia that worries me.

(Is peadophilia a morbid sexual obsession with preadolescent legumes?)

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(no subject) - [info]maryavatar, 2004-01-23 12:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]delfeus, 2004-01-23 07:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]maryavatar, 2004-01-23 11:08 pm UTC

[info]mael
2004-01-22 11:32 pm UTC (link)
. . . so you're saying you fantasise about things you don't want to do?

Got it in one, child.

Is it really so hard for some people to grasp the concept of fantasy? For the love of all that's holy, even side stepping the more than obvious rape-fantasy scenario (which she kindly dismisses with a 'but it's not really rape it's extreme domination/non-con' which, pardon my uneducated mind, sounds rather silly and self-excusing) I have fantasies involving battles and sharp blades and I can assure you, were it real, I'd be nowhere near any.

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[info]rann
2004-01-23 12:53 am UTC (link)
Is it really so hard for some people to grasp the concept of fantasy?

Hell, I fantasize about any number of things that aren't even physically possible!
... Wait, have I shared too much?

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(no subject) - [info]mael, 2004-01-23 12:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2004-01-23 01:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mael, 2004-01-23 01:04 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-01-27 12:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eiviiaru, 2004-01-27 02:25 am UTC

[info]diamonde
2004-01-23 03:37 pm UTC (link)
I have fantasies involving battles and sharp blades and I can assure you, were it real, I'd be nowhere near any.

I had a sexual dream about Prince Harry once. I'm pretty sure that His Younger Than Me Highness is okay to stay in the country, y'know? And this one time, I had a fantasy involving icecream and a seductive hamburger, but possibly I was just hungry.

Some people just shouldn't be allowed to play with sharp things like computers.

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(no subject) - [info]delfeus, 2004-01-23 07:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]musette, 2004-01-24 12:47 am UTC
Re: - [info]diamonde, 2004-01-25 07:39 pm UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-01-25 10:52 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-01-23 12:03 am UTC (link)
There's a similar discussion going in a livejournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/atdelphi/50268.html#cutid1 (found through the metablogger community, possibly inspired by the fanficrant discussion?) but I haven't waded through all the threads for the wank quotient yet.

~*PerfectAngel*~

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[info]sporky
2004-01-23 12:07 am UTC (link)
Seems to be civil and non-wanky so far.

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[info]sarajayechan
2004-01-23 01:31 am UTC (link)
Someone needs to make up some laws pertaining to fandom NOT being a good place to practice psychology. Fandom is more fun when it isn't a bigass debate about how liking, say, NakagoxHotohori means you're a psychotic person with low self esteem and have rape fantasies because you're "repressed". >

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[info]iczer6
2004-01-23 02:05 am UTC (link)
[Someone needs to make up some laws pertaining to fandom NOT being a good place to practice psychology.]

Oh God yes. I wish people would realize that what turns people on is only a small part of their personality.

Believe it or not you can't tell what a person's like by looking at their porn.

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(no subject) - [info]ahiru, 2004-01-23 02:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2004-01-23 02:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]teratologist, 2004-01-23 04:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2004-01-23 04:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ahiru, 2004-01-23 06:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2004-01-23 07:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]liarliar, 2004-01-23 09:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ahiru, 2004-01-23 09:46 pm UTC
Re: - [info]liarliar, 2004-01-23 09:53 pm UTC

[info]aruru
2004-01-23 02:08 am UTC (link)
Someone needs to make up some laws pertaining to fandom NOT being a good place to practice psychology.

Unless it's the tinhats. Or that chick from the Billy Boyd wank, or that "Jordan Wood" girl who got arrested a while back. Now THERE is some serious study material, yo.

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(no subject) - [info]loki, 2004-01-23 06:31 pm UTC

[info]virago
2004-01-23 05:10 pm UTC (link)
Awwww, c'mon. It can be fun if you limit it to the charas in your fandom and don't take it seriously. 'Course, the comm I made about it died after one post. *sulk*

(Yes, I'm a big enough nerd to ramble forever about motivations and whether XYZ didn't get enough attention as a child. ;) )

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(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2004-01-23 05:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2004-01-23 07:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]virago, 2004-01-26 06:41 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-01-23 10:12 am UTC (link)
I did wonder how long this would take to to get here, especially after people started tossing about the word 'wanky'. I feel so notorious.

Okay, I don't, but I still deem this my reward for reading every single one of those damn comments becaue I forgot to turn off the email option (and they're still coming) and responding to several.

I feel almost obliged to justify it, like most people do when they find they've been wanked, but really, there is no justification, and barely even an explanation. I didn't set out to be wanky, but when it happened, I was amused.

~The one to blame (http:/www.livejournal.com/users/minervasolo)~

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[info]kannaophelia
2004-01-23 01:31 pm UTC (link)
As you've just admitted you're a schoolchild yourself, there's a good chance you're under eighteen. If so, go away and play with the other children - you're not allowed to be here with the grownups.

If not, welcome. ~grin~

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-01-23 05:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]virago, 2004-01-23 05:13 pm UTC
Re: - [info]kannaophelia, 2004-01-23 06:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-01-23 07:14 pm UTC
Re: - [info]kannaophelia, 2004-01-23 07:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-01-23 11:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mariagoner, 2004-01-24 12:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kannaophelia, 2004-01-24 04:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]crickets, 2004-01-24 06:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]musette, 2004-01-24 12:49 am UTC
not really wanky
[info]torotoro
2004-01-23 01:12 pm UTC (link)
the correct spelling of "pedophilia" is never discussed

I think the original poster is from UK. They spell the word differently.

Like you said, well-contained. Too well-contained, in fact, for there to be anything wanky about it.

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Re: not really wanky
[info]yadda
2004-01-23 05:31 pm UTC (link)
To the best of my knowledge the English do not spell it peadophile though.

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Re: not really wanky - (Anonymous), 2004-01-29 02:08 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-01-23 04:13 pm UTC (link)
Er, you do know that the English, in their limitless wisedom, spell Paedophile properly? What with being English and all.

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[info]smo
2004-01-23 04:51 pm UTC (link)
Yes, but this person spelled it "peadophile," which is incorrect on either side of the Atlantic.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-01-29 02:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-01-29 04:13 pm UTC

[info]virago
2004-01-23 05:15 pm UTC (link)
You are correct about the English spelling of "pedophile," but I'm just going to sit here and snicker about that "wisedom" thing.

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[info]eiviiaru
2004-01-23 08:34 pm UTC (link)
What [info]smo said, pretty much. It's "peadophile" I was making a particularly inept joke around, not "paedophile," which is both correct and elegant in the way British spellings often are.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-01-29 02:10 pm UTC
Shees, these people!
[info]croik
2004-01-23 07:45 pm UTC (link)
Blargh! Why do people still insist on "you are what you write"? It still kinda irks me how fans seem to think that liking rapefics and shota makes you an unforgivable pervert, but things like murder never get touched. Like with the incest debates--from the way people talk about it, it sounds like they'd rather have a pair of siblings murder each other in their sleep than have sex (in a fic, in any case).

Doesn't anyone realize that despite all the hentai flowing out of Japan, they still have one of the lowest crime rates in the world? It's because they understand the definition of "fantasy."

No matter how much yaoi I write, I will never have a penis!!!

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Re: Shees, these people!
[info]diamonde
2004-01-23 08:23 pm UTC (link)
No matter how much yaoi I write, I will never have a penis!!!

And no matter how much popslash I write, I'll never be a boyband member! Oh, the agony of penislessness that we share!

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Re: Shees, these people! - [info]smo, 2004-01-23 08:31 pm UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]musette, 2004-01-24 12:51 am UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]smo, 2004-01-24 09:59 pm UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]musette, 2004-01-25 01:08 am UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]smo, 2004-01-26 07:56 pm UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]musette, 2004-01-26 10:18 pm UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]smo, 2004-01-26 10:19 pm UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]musette, 2004-01-27 01:14 am UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]smo, 2004-01-27 07:49 pm UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]musette, 2004-01-28 08:34 pm UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]smo, 2004-01-28 09:21 pm UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]musette, 2004-01-29 06:04 am UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]smo, 2004-01-29 04:27 pm UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]musette, 2004-01-30 06:14 am UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]smo, 2004-01-30 08:22 pm UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]musette, 2004-01-30 09:55 pm UTC
Re: Shees, these people!
[info]eiviiaru
2004-01-23 08:40 pm UTC (link)
No matter how much yaoi I write, I will never have a penis!!!

Well, unless you're Jordan Wood.

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Re: Shees, these people! - (Anonymous), 2004-01-23 08:48 pm UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]starherd, 2004-01-23 10:13 pm UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]croik, 2004-01-23 11:01 pm UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]maryavatar, 2004-01-23 11:11 pm UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]mariagoner, 2004-01-24 12:41 am UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - (Anonymous), 2004-01-29 02:13 pm UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]iczer6, 2004-01-24 12:05 am UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]cleolinda, 2004-01-23 11:17 pm UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]musette, 2004-01-24 12:53 am UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]croik, 2004-01-24 02:08 am UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]panthea, 2004-01-24 09:04 pm UTC
Re: Shees, these people! - [info]croik, 2004-01-24 09:36 pm UTC

[info]starherd
2004-01-23 10:14 pm UTC (link)
mmmm, Red Elvises.

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