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MD ([info]md) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-01-30 04:11:00


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OMFG STFU Like, what is a 'canon'?
Hello. This is my introductory wank. Behold the depth of my pettiness... because, you know, I've watched way too many people friends lock their journals to bitch about this and it chafes me.


Meet Zed Adams. She's a self-proclaimed, 39-year old "minuscule name fanfic writer" who just so happens to have a few "half-assed reasons" on why Subaru/Kamui totally r0xx0rz her b0xx0rz. Not that anyone showing the least bit of not-so-half-assed reasoning can say anything different; who are we to assume, anyway, that there's a thing called the freedom of opinion and that a Seishirou/Subaru community has every right to state, on their own comm, why they believe that The Canon TB/X slash pairing works best? (Tokyo Babylon, book 7; the love confession) Damn, we are presumptuous, manure-flinging monkeys.

But, really, why stop at the good ol', classic SxS vs SxK debate, when we can bring in examples, from other fandoms, regarding our more personal wankeries?

"I wrote two SxK fics and it raised some hackles for my plastic characterization of Subaru... So, I am guilty of character bastardization."

Nice that we got that cleared up, ma'am. Denial is an ugly, ugly thing, after all.

"So what? I bastardize H&D in my A&T and Barriers series. I gave them a whole new persona of their own. I don't have a problem with that."

Well, shit... looks like I spoke too soon. Of course, it must be difficult, feeling justified in your work, when you are compelled to note that the characters are ooc or that anyone who has the gall to admit that they are being so must be a weenie. But hey... live and let live, right? The Seishirou/Subaru community and most of HP fandom seemed content to let Zed rant in her own corner, unmolested.

However, she was not content to keep her wankage to herself. Thus, molested, she must be.

So, SxS writers should start shelling out their own SxK fanfiction instead of just whining over how terribly ooc and tasteless it is? Well, for the sake not being a completely whiny hypocrite, let me be the first to make an offering. I may have been sixteen and stupid at the time, but at least I made an effort to be halfway in-character before I slopped all over the page with my fangirl drool. And I don't blame any ooc on AU or intended mediocrity; I blame it on my own youthful ignorance.

If you're only gonna come into your fandom half-assed, don't be surprised when not everyone is willing to give you a biscuit and a pat on the back.

EDIT: Thin-skinned. Thick-headed. AGAIN.


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(Anonymous)
2004-01-30 03:25 pm UTC (link)
Woooow...have you seen the latest post on her journal? PARANOID, MUCH? Christ...

~OtakuQueen

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(Anonymous)
2004-01-30 03:28 pm UTC (link)
Sorry, should have specified where it is.

http://www.livejournal.com/users/zed_adams/176107.html#cutid1

XD

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[info]smo
2004-01-30 04:24 pm UTC (link)
My new mission in life is to write hot, nasty Sorashi hospitalsexfic just to piss this wench off.

Not that I wouldn't have anyway, but still.

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[info]delcj
2004-01-31 04:39 am UTC (link)
Sorashi?! where?! ^.^

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[info]iris
2004-01-30 04:57 pm UTC (link)
...um, bitch, are you for real? That community post didn't seem like any kind of an attack on me...just a discussion about the validity of one pairing versus another. Yet she's flipping out that they "attacked" her, and her friends are all being so supportive and going "yeah, they're jerks!" ...it boggles the mind.

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[info]pradaloz
2004-01-30 05:37 pm UTC (link)
So I'm not the only one who read the SeiXSub thread and went, "Where's the beef vitriol?" Good.

Thinnest. Skin. Ever.

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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-01-30 11:58 pm UTC

[info]iris
2004-01-30 10:15 pm UTC (link)
Doesn't seem like an attack to me, I meant. Obviously it's not an attack on me, considering I'm not even in the fandom (much as I love the manga).

I should really learn to read my comments before I post them.

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[info]sarajayechan
2004-01-31 04:44 pm UTC (link)
Ah, she's one of THOSE people. :P

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(Anonymous)
2004-01-30 05:59 pm UTC (link)
It's the Godwin's Law for the 21st Century!

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(no subject) - [info]calluna, 2004-01-30 06:12 pm UTC

[info]mrbimble
2004-01-30 06:02 pm UTC (link)
Definitely. We need a codicil to - is it Godwin's Law?

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[info]els_chan
2004-01-30 06:11 pm UTC (link)
Wow...she must be the mayor of Overreaction City!

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[info]elanor_durall
2004-01-30 06:50 pm UTC (link)
I hail from a multi-racial, multi-religious country where we celebrate each other's uniqueness.

Where, pray tell, can I find this utopia?

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[info]sarajayechan
2004-01-30 07:02 pm UTC (link)
I'm not even in the X fandom, and the SxS vs SxK debate is starting to bug me. :P Both pairings are perfectly credible-well, of course the first is, it IS canon. But the whole "SxS is CANON even though Seishirou is dead, so anything else is wrong!" is ridiculous. *remembers a certain NephritexNaru fan who ignored the later NaruxUmino canon, and said NephritexJadeite was stupid and wrong just because NephritexNaru was canon at one point in the anime*

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*snigger*
[info]croik
2004-01-30 07:06 pm UTC (link)
The Su/Sei vs Su/Kamui debate always amuses me, because really, if it's post X, then...well, not about to spoil, but you already know what I mean.

Only the X manga can tell...if they ever finish the thing *grr*

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muzivitch
2004-01-30 07:59 pm UTC (link)
...I swear, this is the wank that never ends. Wow. Most of the rest of the fandom is quiet, and yet this lives on. Amazing.

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[info]starza
2004-01-30 08:00 pm UTC (link)
Um, okay, she comes into a community that has over 100+ members devoted to one pairing, asks if Subaru would be better off with Kamui and expects no one to defend them!?

*Scratches head*

Plus, no one 'tore her to pieces'. If they did, I'd kick them in the head and make them take it 'outside'.

I love how people try to turn dark and angsty animes into sugar and spice and candyland endings. X is a dark and angsty anime/manga, get over it or write for something else. o_o I mean, why write for a certain anime/manga if you're going to warp canon into what YOU want it to be. Just plaster different names and write an original. The point of fanfiction is to show you're a fan of the show, warping canon to suit your own desires sort of insults the original creator, as you're implying that you didn't like how they wrote them.

And jesus, if someone has a problem with the community, I AM available for contact, you know?

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(no subject) - [info]toxictattoo, 2004-01-30 08:19 pm UTC
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Bitterness - [info]iczer6, 2004-01-30 08:24 pm UTC
Re: Bitterness - [info]starza, 2004-01-30 08:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-01-30 11:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]meril, 2004-01-30 08:42 pm UTC
Minor technicality - (Anonymous), 2004-01-31 09:29 am UTC
eh? - [info]meril, 2004-01-31 10:16 am UTC
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[info]rogue
2004-01-30 08:00 pm UTC (link)
It's CLAMP. There is no such thing as an OTP in CLAMP, because everyone is sleeping with everyone else, even if they're in different series, have never met each other, or were dead before the other was born.

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OTO (Original True Orgy) - [info]deoridhe, 2004-01-30 10:01 pm UTC
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[info]shoiryu
2004-01-31 12:12 am UTC (link)
I love X fangirls who go, "Well I like the series BUT THIS PAIRING IS TOO DARK SO I HAVE TO FIX THAT". Uh. X is a dark series. It's about the end of the damn /world/. It's not going to be all fluffy bunnies and light, assmunch.

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Akutsu meets you in a back alley with a clue-by-four.
[info]jyuu
2004-01-31 02:00 am UTC (link)
Oh, heaven forbid that a community should discuss something on their own ground without being at all rude or bitchy. *rolls eyes* None of them even directed their comments at her! They didn't even bitch at cutepear for bringing in something counter to the point of the entire community!

If she thinks that's "tearing her to pieces", then she's going to get a very rude awakening one of these days... and it'll probably make it back here! Sweet. XD

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[info]split
2004-01-31 03:55 am UTC (link)
I don't understand why Kamui/Subaru and Seishirou/Subaru are mutually exclusive pairings. I mean, can't they get involved at different stages when the story progresses?

Or they can be get into a threesome. Yeah, that solves all the problem! w00t!

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[info]theartema
2004-01-31 07:57 am UTC (link)
Is this the same Zed that pollutes LotR and HP fandom with poorly written Mary Sues about how she gets knocked up by Haldir-pooh or Sevvykins in a self-insert?

One of her Haldir-rape fics was featured on Deleterius and her sockpuppets invaded to tell us all that we were jealous angsty bitches who couldn't possibly compare to how great and wonderful and selfless and pretty Zed was/is.

To see that she has invaded yet another of my prize fandoms (I worship CLAMP), I say it is time to see this bitch become a greasy stain on the carpet.

[/bitter]

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(no subject) - [info]shimeragi, 2004-01-31 08:33 am UTC
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[info]shimeragi
2004-01-31 08:40 am UTC (link)
Most people know how I feel about this. But I'll say it again. I'm proud of liking my SxK pairing, I can't be proud of some of the people who support it. They are supporting something that can't exist. They mangle a character to fit their needs.

And does NO ONE remember Fuuma? Dear God, and when they do, let's just make him a sadist and so flat of a character it makes people cringe. Or you know, why not pair Seishirou and Fuuma together and get them out of the way? That's something else I've noted. Or even give Hokuto Seishirou - never mind Kakyou or the fact that Hokuto was supporting Seishirou and Subaru as a couple. I like my SeishirouxHokuto and SeishirouxFuuma, but not written for the sake of getting Subaru to Kamui.

Ugh. Nausea rising.

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Re: - [info]liarliar, 2004-02-01 10:35 pm UTC

[info]elanor_durall
2004-01-31 08:36 pm UTC (link)
This person is OBVIOUSLY jealous as Voldemort of your definite talent - I mean, for this person to cross fandoms... ;)

*chokes and wheezes* LMFAO!

And for all her nattering about the joys of ctrl+w, why didn't she just ctrl+w the review instead of ranting about it in her journal? Oh, right. Of course that's somehow different. Bitch, please.

And with Starry, Iscaris, and Aome's stamp of approval, that's all that the "real" followers of HP need. Those who actually count.

Again -- LMFAO! She's right. The "real" followers of HP are content to have their reading preferences dictated by fandom celebrities. That's what makes them "real" followers. They're hardcore, y0.

Ahahahaha.

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(no subject) - [info]iamtheenemy, 2004-01-31 09:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]elanor_durall, 2004-01-31 10:07 pm UTC
Lesson? Don't Review Idiot's Fics.
(Anonymous)
2004-01-31 11:36 pm UTC (link)
I made the mistake.

Oh... and such a waste of my time it was. She had the gall to post those trite, plotless pieces of refuse to the SxS and x1999 general LJ communities, and ask for reviews.

Now, it's not everyday you see someone trying to tout a Subaru/Kamui fic on a Subaru/Seishirou community. I was intrigued. I actually went out and read one... almost all the way through. Well, let's just say I couldn't bring myself to finish it, it was that awful.

So... I gave the most honest review I could. Told her how uninspired and horrible it was. It read a lot like the review some other poor person on ff.net gave her for her her HP slash. Just insert Subaru and Kamui instead of Harry and Draco and you've got the idea.

She got one of her friends to try and whine at me and call me mean. She stalked my website and tried to badmouth the writing on it - most of which isn't even mine. She even inspired someone to harass me over aim and try to tell me my writing was bad. It was really pathetic though, considering I think that person was 12... or didn't know english. I have most of it documented.

And the most pathetic thing? She couldn't even say anything to my face. This was all done behind my back. Any comments she made directly to me on any communities have been deleted. Too bad there are about ten witnesses that know what went on.

*sigh* Complete waste of time and effort. She's the kind of person that reads or watches about a third of a series and then tries to slash whatever she finds most attractive, not even bothering to get the character right half the time. It's like she takes every last gay porn/romance novel she's read and just steals sentences and switches the names.

Only X fanfic writer I've ever encountered that would willingly use the word "rakish" to describe Subaru. Nuff' said.

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Re: Lesson? Don't Review Idiot's Fics. - [info]subaru, 2004-02-01 12:10 am UTC
Re: Lesson? Don't Review Idiot's Fics. - [info]smo, 2004-02-01 01:04 am UTC
Re: Lesson? Don't Review Idiot's Fics. - [info]aloysius, 2004-02-01 02:14 am UTC


 
   
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