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Little she-bear ([info]littleshebear) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-02-21 18:17:00
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Current mood:*sporfle!*

Tori Amos Wank.
How Certain Tori Amos Fans, oh sorry, 'Ears With Feet' are Far Too Uptight, Part 2, 394.

It all begins with a comm member posting the results to a rather lame Quizilla quiz entitled, "which Tori Amos song are you?" Other community members follow suit before the mod steps in to ask people to stop clogging up members' friends pages with their pointless boring shite results.

However, some hapless community member must have missed this completely and posts up yet another result in a new post.

Then the fun begins as wearingabeanie makes a post to extract the urine and link to a site which mocks La Amos.

Some people agree and see the joke, but sugarpuss takes offence.

There's also a touch of icon wank and for some reason, a bit of yammering on about Janet Jackson's nipples. Fun for all the family.

EDITED TO ADD: It's still going, and it just got very, very bitchy. I'm finding myself feeling sorry for the mod. *more sporfling*


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[info]kijikun
2004-02-21 08:28 pm UTC (link)
Random drive by icon snoging

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[info]littleshebear
2004-02-21 08:29 pm UTC (link)
Ooh, Python-ness. *snogs back*

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(Anonymous)
2004-02-22 02:56 am UTC (link)
So. Much. Poly!Iconlove. All three are terrific.


Adrienne.

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pooka
2004-02-21 08:30 pm UTC (link)
Ah, sugarpuss. I really should thank her for all the amusement she's given me.

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[info]mynxkittie
2004-02-21 08:42 pm UTC (link)
I'm not surprised. Sugarpuss takes offense to anything anti-Tori.

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[info]littleshebear
2004-02-21 08:46 pm UTC (link)
You know, between Tori and Tolkien, I think I picked the most po-faced fandoms to associate myself with. *sighs*

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[info]beccastareyes
2004-02-21 10:17 pm UTC (link)
Have you tried Harry Potter yet?

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[info]littleshebear
2004-02-21 10:18 pm UTC (link)
Yes. I got out of that one. ;)

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(Anonymous)
2004-02-21 09:37 pm UTC (link)
sugarpuss needs to grow a sense of humor.

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[info]eiviiaru
2004-02-21 11:26 pm UTC (link)
This is the same sugarpuss involved in the whole sugarpuss/sugarpussy LJdrama shananigan recently, right? If so, she needs to grow some goddamn skin already.

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[info]littleshebear
2004-02-21 11:34 pm UTC (link)
I think so. I'm not familiar with that kerfluffle but given that at one point in this one she says, "I appeared on LJDrama quite unexpectedly -- I found out about it here, actually -- because I was being impersonated and harassed."

So you're probably right. And yes, an epidermis would be to her advantage, definately.

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[info]bexistance
2004-02-22 12:30 am UTC (link)
I never could quite grasp the whole "I'm going to devote a bunch of my time to tearing someone down" thing

No doubt because she's too busy honing her 'razor sharp sarcasm' and summoning rockstars.

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[info]evening_rose
2004-02-22 01:40 am UTC (link)
...I can't stop staring at your icon. It's hypnotizing me. ©_©

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2004-02-22 02:41 pm UTC (link)
Me either. It needs a health warning.

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[info]apoplexia
2004-02-23 08:40 am UTC (link)
Hell, I've been staring at it way too much. I was out at Karneval on the weekend and after one too many strawberry daiquiris seriously had to fight the urge to do this in public. Just look away kids!

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[info]mariagoner
2004-02-22 02:42 am UTC (link)
Educate a newbie.

Why is there Tori Amos wank in the first place? What is so polarizing about a singer who seems to have largely faded out of the public conciousness? What is it about this fairly twee and talented singer that makes her detractors howl and her defenders break out in hives?

I mean... I like her, sorta. I dig the fragile fairy look she's got going on. I illegally downloaded some of her newest album. I feel her pain. But why is her fandom so wanky anyway?

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[info]littleshebear
2004-02-22 02:52 am UTC (link)
Oi. I not sure myself to be honest. I love Tori Amos, I really adore her music but many of her fans just go out of their way to come across as 'deep' and self-analytical. It's all horribly pretentious. For me, Tori Amos is another one of these people who fall into the "love me, fear my fans" category.

The fandom also suffers from the new vs. old problem. Old fans often boast about how they discovered Tori while Dinosaurs roamed the earth and consider the fans who discovered her after she started using electric keyboards and samples the lowest of the low. There's a lot of "I'm more fannish than thou" in this fandom.

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[info]psychofangirl
2004-02-22 03:45 am UTC (link)
Much as I love Tori Amos, I'm glad I stayed the hell out of the fandom!

I heard about her in the 90's and prefer her old stuff, but so what? Some of the new stuff is really good. And I LIKE some of her electronic remixes! :D

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[info]littleshebear
2004-02-22 04:08 am UTC (link)
There is a mood in the fandom that seems to go along with the idea that 'old Tori' ie Tori, the piano and nothing else is inherently better than new Tori, with the dance backbeats, and the band that tours with her. Like it's purer or more honest. I don't know. I don't get it. I don't think it's better, it's different.

Mind you, if she'd stayed with just the acoustic piano, they'd complain that she hadn't developed musically and artiscally. People will always bitch abotu something.

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[info]sewingmyfish
2004-02-22 05:00 am UTC (link)
Word, word and word again to all you said.
I'm a big Tori fan, but boy, have I seen some heavy duty wank amongst them

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[info]musette
2004-02-22 07:13 am UTC (link)
For some reason, the whole female folk/singer songwriter fandom thing is just wanky as all hell on the whole. I mean shite, Ani DiFranco fans? Run, run for your LIVES!

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[info]rhi_silverflame
2004-02-22 08:31 pm UTC (link)
*snerk*

The Indigo Girls just put out a new album, so their fans are doing the typical wank-dance on the mailing list: all the people who own all the bootleg live shows and have seen the stuff on the new album performed before, acoustically, are fap-fap-fapping away.

It's the same thing every time as it has been for the past . . . four or five albums; the "omg I r teh kool," had these songs memorized long before the recording studio was even booked, lord-it-over-the-West-Coaster crowd gets the album and bitchbitchbitchbitchBITCHes because the studio tracks sound different from the acoustic tracks. Because apparently "overproduced" to them means "more than two acoustic guitars, and maybe drums and bass." There's currently a thread on the main IG mailing list entitled "Why do you hate me, Peter Collins?" Who knew the album's producer was on a personal crusade to make this one person's life miserable by adding a Hammond B-3 organ, a cello, and a few other instruments to the studio arrangements?

Come to think of it, the Dar Williams list is kind of the same way about acoustic instruments and "overproduction." I remember the splooging over "The Green World," which is way more acoustic than "The Beauty of the Rain," by which point I made sure to NOT be on the list any more. :P

And Ani fans . . . good lord, I'm not even touching those. I love me my modern female folk-rock, but the fans . . . gah.

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[info]musette
2004-02-22 10:26 pm UTC (link)
Ahhh Dar, I love Dar wank. I think I'm like a Dar double agent, because I went to college in Western Mass. and got to see her live a few times and "got" that whole thing, but I'm from California and moved back there. It was nice, when I was still on the list, to be able to pull out my "I went to a women's college too ya fucks!" cred.

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[info]rhi_silverflame
2004-02-22 09:11 pm UTC (link)
That's sort of a universal truth with musicians like Tori, or Ani DiFranco, or the Indigo Girls, or anyone who's transitioned from a spare acoustic sound to a more lush instrumentation. And some of the old-school fans act like these musicians got forced at gunpoint by their producers to acquiesce to the new sound, and had to be dragged into the studio kicking and screaming.

*coughs* Also, inspired by this thread and recent IG-list goings-on, GIP.

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[info]necronomist
2004-02-22 10:55 pm UTC (link)
Cause, you know, they are forced by their producers to do more than guitar. Everyone knows folk-rock could be as big as Britney if you just add cello.

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[info]mariagoner
2004-02-23 04:03 am UTC (link)
Everyone knows folk-rock could be as big as Britney if you just add cello.

...And cleavage and bare midriff. Those two are pretty important too.

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[info]terminal_frost
2004-02-23 04:47 am UTC (link)
Add in denials over virginity and you've got it made.

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[info]rhi_silverflame
2004-02-23 07:14 am UTC (link)
*snerk* If I recall properly, the IG fandom had that wank over cello a few albums back when they made a cellist a regular part of their band.

And then there was the wank over Emily playing piano on some songs, and the wank over them starting to use electric guitars, and the wank over the weird-ass background vocals by a Native American group called Ulali on Shaming of the Sun, to say nothing of the wank every time they change a band member . . .

I mean, seriously. If there was ever a major label folk-rock band with tons of creative control over their records, IG would be it. They're forever learning new instruments and incorporating them into their songs.

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[info]martianhousecat
2004-02-22 07:43 am UTC (link)
Back in the day, the best Toriwank was found on these forums. Notice all the (v. v. wanky) healing and survivor forums. Because of her connection to RAINN and the LGBTAQOMGWTF community, Tori fandom tends to take itself more seriously than other music fandoms, and generally feels damn good about itself while doing so. Tori's music has a message but not everyone is smart enough to get it. And she suffered like they did. Listening to Tori Amos is akin to being an activist, or something.

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2004-02-22 02:42 pm UTC (link)
You're not an activist unless you're outing straight actors. ;)

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[info]guinevere33
2004-02-22 06:26 am UTC (link)
I never could quite grasp the whole "I'm going to devote a bunch of my time to tearing someone down" thing.

Ah, I see. Is THAT why you used to moderate not one but two "hot or not" communities on LJ, wherein you spent most of your time telling suppli- applicants that they were ugly? (I believe our favorite, [info]the_exalted, was one of them.)

We are all refreshed and challeged by your unique point of view.

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tocomfortyou
2004-02-22 06:36 am UTC (link)
We are all refreshed and challeged by your unique point of view.

HAHAHA.

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2004-02-22 02:43 pm UTC (link)
BURN!

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[info]edithmatilda
2004-02-22 07:33 am UTC (link)

I am now sickened with myself for perusing sugarpuss's many attempts to avoid my inevitable groupiedom, but I can't help it... it's like something horrible and dead by the road...

*gouges out own eyes for about eighth time today*

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[info]baskinglizard
2004-02-22 10:24 pm UTC (link)
Good grief, she has her own 'ask Sugarpuss' journal, where people ask her random questions like 'What's a good exercise for toning thighs, and what to do if a guy's flirting with you but also with other girls. And the 'rules' just go on, and on, and on... *boggle*

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[info]edithmatilda
2004-02-23 12:34 am UTC (link)

I saw. I feared.

Am now starting a MEMEME journal wherein I shall post regularly to say STOP READING THIS. Then maybe I too can be special and beloved.

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[info]skarrow
2004-02-23 05:14 am UTC (link)
http://www.livejournal.com/community/toriamos/1742625.html?thread=10492449#t10492449

...that is a joke, right?

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[info]littleshebear
2004-02-23 05:18 am UTC (link)
You can never be sure but I really don't think so. Read curable's journal. It's liek, really deep and serious. And stuff.

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[info]skarrow
2004-02-23 05:19 am UTC (link)
Not even the splendor of your icon can soothe the thought that that was a serious post.
[/angst]

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[info]littleshebear
2004-02-25 04:58 am UTC (link)
SHE SAID IT AGAIN, SHE SAID IT AGAIN!!!

*falls off chair laughing*

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[info]muffinbutt
2004-02-23 06:55 pm UTC (link)
BWA!!

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