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firebad ([info]firebad) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-02-29 00:55:00


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Current mood:Flattened

Not exactly fandom, but the sick has to be seen to be believed
Don't be eating, kiddies, because this one will turn an iron stomach.

The Train Wreck Support Group over on livejournal found a page called Puellula - a site run by a self-confessed pedophile, Lindsay Ashford. He's published an open letter to the world explaining the "pure and loving nature of his orientation". Gosh, folks! Don't condemn him for wanting to have sex with 9-year-olds! He really truly loves them, doncha know!

The site also contains such jaw-dropping material as the Sugar and Spice section, which has "useful" information for "girls only!" on topics like What Kind Of Touching Can I Do?, How Old Do I Have To Be? ("...because some people in the world want to force everybody else to think and behave in the same way as they do...") and But I Thought It Was My Body? ("Even worse, people might force you to go to counseling and try to convince you that you didn’t really want to do what you did, even though you know inside yourself that you did want to....")

There are even some testimonials from others who share his view. Just for some extra class, there's an advice column from a girl called Cat, who has been in a sexual relationship with her mother since the age of 8.

When this is all discussed on TWS, the obligatory anonymous poster shows up...



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[info]julia
2004-02-28 05:05 pm UTC (link)
*giggles* The anon baited Taxil first!

I am not at all surprised.

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[info]thewashinator
2004-02-28 05:18 pm UTC (link)
Oh. My. God.

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[info]judyhazeleyes
2004-02-28 05:39 pm UTC (link)
i would tend to agree with the poster who said that it can be helpful to see information like this, as it does give a clearer picture of the mind of such a person and illustrates the illness behind their actions in a pretty vivid way.

intelligent, though - that's a stretch no one should be flexible enough to make. an open mind is a good thing, but blindly accepting everything that comes your way and beating down those who won't most definitely is not. i definitely call troll on that anon.

okay, that's enough actual thought for now. we now return to our scheduled first reation - OMGWTF?!

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(no subject) - [info]deoridhe, 2004-02-28 06:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-02-28 06:59 pm UTC
Lunch - [info]deoridhe, 2004-02-28 07:08 pm UTC
Re: Lunch - [info]smo, 2004-02-28 07:16 pm UTC
Re: Lunch - [info]rhi_silverflame, 2004-02-28 07:56 pm UTC
Re: Lunch - [info]smo, 2004-02-28 08:52 pm UTC
Re: Lunch - [info]alden, 2004-02-28 09:15 pm UTC
Re: Lunch - [info]25th_of_april, 2004-02-29 03:45 am UTC
Re: Lunch - [info]croik, 2004-02-28 10:50 pm UTC
Re: Lunch - [info]greekhoop, 2004-02-28 11:00 pm UTC
Re: Lunch - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2004-03-01 04:23 pm UTC
Re: Lunch - [info]greekhoop, 2004-03-01 04:42 pm UTC

[info]funkyhelix
2004-02-28 05:45 pm UTC (link)

I can't bring myself to click any of the links for that site. Curiosity, but is it still being run and updated? I thought sites like that get shut down pretty quick?

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(no subject) - [info]lynstraine, 2004-02-28 06:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-02-28 06:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rogue, 2004-02-28 08:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-02-28 09:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2004-02-29 12:54 am UTC
I don't know... - [info]rachelmap, 2004-02-29 07:05 am UTC
Re: I don't know... - [info]iczer6, 2004-02-29 07:25 am UTC

[info]garlicbug
2004-02-28 05:52 pm UTC (link)
*VOMIT*

I knew there was a reason I left tws_support when I did. I just can't hack the trainwrecks.*

I'll be over here wishing I hadn't just eaten now.

Well, that and the furry porn, because if you seen one 'OMGFURRYPORN' post you've seen them all. *cough*

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[info]sagralisse
2004-02-28 06:29 pm UTC (link)
The reason that some touching is illegal for you is that some people believe that you are too young to understand what you are doing. They think that just because you are young, you don’t know how to think and decide for yourself! So they try to think for you!

AAAAAhahahahaha!

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(no subject) - [info]sagralisse, 2004-02-28 06:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2004-02-28 07:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sagralisse, 2004-02-28 08:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2004-02-28 08:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sagralisse, 2004-02-28 09:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2004-02-28 09:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sagralisse, 2004-02-29 03:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2004-02-29 12:58 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-02-29 05:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kannaophelia, 2004-02-29 09:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sagralisse, 2004-02-29 06:18 pm UTC

[info]skarrow
2004-02-28 06:46 pm UTC (link)
*kablink*
Yeah. Love, there ya go. That's what it is. Because the obligations and mental crap attached to a sexual relationship ain't gonna scar a kid.

Next time I hear someone say "special friend," I'm gonna snap. I know it.

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(no subject) - [info]calluna, 2004-02-28 07:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2004-02-28 08:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]psychofangirl, 2004-02-29 12:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]theamazingrando, 2004-02-29 12:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kannaophelia, 2004-02-29 09:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]psychofangirl, 2004-03-01 03:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]julia, 2004-02-28 08:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]skarrow, 2004-02-28 11:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]julia, 2004-02-29 01:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kannaophelia, 2004-02-29 09:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]alden, 2004-02-29 11:22 pm UTC
Re: - [info]kannaophelia, 2004-03-01 02:32 am UTC

edward_hyde
2004-02-28 07:56 pm UTC (link)
Holy Jesus fuck...I thought the Something Awful anti-pedophile campaign had shut that place down!

For those who haven't heard, basically the thousands of SA forum goons have been putting their numbers to good use. Contacting server hosts to let them know what's being put on their webspace, contacting the *police* at some points, and doing everything in their power to completely destroy the hell out of any and all pedo sites they find. Hell, they also have a process called "archiving", which uses a program to download the sites over and over and over again, hundreds of times per minute-you get a couple thousand guys doing this, and the sites' bandwith implodes. And when all else fails, they fill pedophile message boards with goatse and upload "War and Peace" repeatedly into complaint forms (thus imploding the pedophile board admin's mailbox). :D /end fangirl squeeing over the awesomeness

But yeah. I definitely remember reading about them going after this place, that wierd name is not one you easily forget. It makes me sick that it's back up AGAIN. :( Argh.

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(no subject) - [info]azarias, 2004-02-28 08:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sagralisse, 2004-02-28 08:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - edward_hyde, 2004-02-28 08:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]theamazingrando, 2004-02-29 12:08 am UTC
(no subject) - edward_hyde, 2004-02-29 12:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]theamazingrando, 2004-02-29 01:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]virago, 2004-03-01 08:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2004-02-29 01:00 am UTC

[info]sagralisse
2004-02-28 08:07 pm UTC (link)
I actually read the whole life story. The odd thing is that a lot of his own unhappiness and isolation probably came from becoming sexualized so early (he was sexually abused when he was little.) However he doesn't seem to realize that no matter how much lip service he pays to consent and respect, following through on his own desires will set others on the same path. He always felt like he didn't belong, and was unhappy in not belonging, yet there's a pride there in not being normal and a willingness to inflict that on other children.

The section on his baptism was especially ironic... he sneers at being pressured into accepting Christ, but doesn't recognize how common that same psychological pressure would be in the relationships he endorses.

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(no subject) - [info]isntitironic, 2004-02-28 10:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sagralisse, 2004-02-29 02:53 am UTC
Reported
[info]sacredcow
2004-02-28 09:36 pm UTC (link)
I was molested myself. This guy, gal actually, is sick. The questions section bugged me the most. Of course she would be glad to receive email from any girls with questions! I did a whois search, got all the contact info: name, address, phone, hosting company. I then sent it on the NH police, the FBI and the hosting company.

Maybe that will work.

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Re: Reported - [info]alden, 2004-02-28 09:53 pm UTC
Re: Reported - [info]sacredcow, 2004-02-28 10:02 pm UTC
Re: Reported - [info]cleolinda, 2004-02-29 01:28 am UTC
Re: Reported - [info]alden, 2004-02-29 01:44 am UTC
Re: Reported - [info]cleolinda, 2004-02-29 01:47 am UTC
Re: Reported - [info]imbrium, 2004-03-01 09:30 am UTC
Re: Reported - [info]sacredcow, 2004-02-29 04:39 am UTC
Re: Reported - [info]lukita, 2004-02-29 11:58 am UTC
Re: Reported - [info]nights_mistress, 2004-03-01 01:50 am UTC
Re: Reported - (Anonymous), 2004-03-02 08:03 pm UTC

[info]schuldig
2004-02-28 10:12 pm UTC (link)
...You mean it's not a parody? Oh god...

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(no subject) - [info]greekhoop, 2004-02-28 11:07 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-02-28 11:04 pm UTC (link)
"Cat" is SO not a real person.

At least I hope not.

--Wolfychan

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[info]crickets
2004-02-28 11:25 pm UTC (link)
Sick.

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[info]mauralabingi
2004-02-28 11:28 pm UTC (link)
OMGWTFBBQ.

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[info]mynxkittie
2004-02-28 11:47 pm UTC (link)
To paraphrase the most socially conscious show of our time, South Park:

Kyle: Dude. You have SEX. WITH CHILDREN.
Stan: Yeah, we're all for equality and stuff, but dude, fuck you.

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(no subject) - [info]cleolinda, 2004-02-29 01:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chash, 2004-02-29 03:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mynxkittie, 2004-02-29 04:41 am UTC
Re: - [info]chash, 2004-02-29 06:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]visp, 2004-02-29 09:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]delfeus, 2004-02-29 10:22 am UTC
Re: - [info]visp, 2004-03-01 02:22 am UTC
Re: - [info]delfeus, 2004-03-01 09:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sorchar, 2004-03-01 08:45 am UTC

[info]zannechaos
2004-02-29 03:07 am UTC (link)
i'm going to be sick.

fuck metagaming, i'm pulling this into an rp im in to sic a character i have who fucking assassinates sick fucks like this on them. yeah so maybe it won't be for real but in the meantime i'll at least get some satisfying mental images of very bloody and deserving death.

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(no subject) - [info]beccastareyes, 2004-02-29 10:26 pm UTC

[info]bitchysmurf
2004-02-29 05:09 am UTC (link)
I so wish I hadn't clicked those links. I need to go scrub my brain now.

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[info]deslea
2004-02-29 06:47 am UTC (link)
*is speechless*

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2004-02-29 03:33 pm UTC (link)
I just geniunely don't understand him. What I do understand is that people who love children stand more chance of "loving" children than people like me (I hope), who fucking hate the little spools of drool and would quite happily drop the entire stinking lot of them off the face of the earth.

Okay, 1) this guy is sick
2) Where does the line of paedophilia get drawn?
3) who teaches their kids to believe everything adults tell them? Oh, their parents.

Sorry, no sympathy for him, the kids, or anyone else. I was abused, and I damn well knew it was wrong because I'd already worked out that if it FEELS creepy it's probably wrong (applied this logic to doctors too).

</ kneejerk>.

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(no subject) - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2004-02-29 04:37 pm UTC

[info]misswindy
2004-02-29 06:40 pm UTC (link)
There is no icon on the planet expressing an extreme enough sentiment for this!!

Did I read this correctly? Is that person running that site a WOMAN? Pro-paedophile lesbians! I know I shouldn't be shocked, but I am!!

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(no subject) - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2004-03-01 04:26 pm UTC
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[info]elanor_durall
2004-02-29 08:22 pm UTC (link)
That is so fucking wrong. *scrubs eyes with bleach*

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(Anonymous)
2004-03-01 08:46 pm UTC (link)
It's like a car crash; I just can't look away.

(And equally as frightening - well, maybe not, but still slightly - is the fact that I have a friend who talks like that.)

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There's a good chance "Cat" is a fake.
[info]elainemc
2004-03-01 09:55 pm UTC (link)
There's a fair chance the site owner, is writing as "Cat", for three reasons.

1) As an example to show to potential victims. "See? This little girl loved *her* mommy, that's why she did these things."

2) As a reinforcer for pedophiles. "See? Kids really *do* love this. It doesn't hurt them, and they're not traumatised, or even upset."

3) As masturbation aids, and to convince himself that Pedophilia Is Okay!

Finally, you'll note that "Cat" is NOT* writing as a child, but as a *legal adult*. That, to me, sounds ilke a CYA move, so he can't be charged with child endangerment.

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Messed up thinking patterns
(Anonymous)
2004-03-03 09:42 pm UTC (link)

I am the parent of a young child. Why should I trust you with my child?

Firstly, it is important for you to understand that we do not wish to replace you or compete with you. We respect your position as a primary caregiver and do not wish to undermine your influence on your child. We are willing to be honest and open with you regarding our love for your child and are open to your involvement in our relationship in a manner that respects both your concerns as a parent as well as the wishes and desires of your child.



Ewwww. Yes, because the first thing I needed to be reassured over was the fact that he isn't trying to 'replace or compete' with me. Disgusting.

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[info]schneck
2004-03-05 08:49 pm UTC (link)
i have been traumatized by this. and i'm an adult. ew ew ew ew.

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