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Ariel-chan ([info]arielchan) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-03-07 23:59:00


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Current mood:*thud*
Current music:Venus in Furs: "2HB"

Children Are Cruel. Deal With It.
I'm not a member of the childfree community, but one of my friends is, so periodically I scan through there to amuse myself with horror stories of children misbehaving in public places.

As I read a horror story about a kindergarten teacher, I drifted down into the comments and saw the wank errupt.</i>

First, glorybox posts about a problem his mother is having as a kindergarten teacher: one of the girls intentionally craps in her pants to her attention. When the teacher confronts the child's mother, the mother protests that they shouldn't draw attention to it because the other children will tease her.

dawnsong says:Maybe if she drew attention to it and let the other kids make fun of her, she'd stop.

That comment sets off the wank as
futuregirl shows up, complaining that childfree people are "child-haters" who want to abuse children.

Azraelle declares futuregirl a troll, futuregirl protests, and the wank begins, even including a dicussion of what a "truly childfree" person is, and of course... sockpuppets!

For someone who denies being a troll, "futuregirl" sure has a lot of accounts:
evilbitchnews
betterthandagny
bites_the_sun

~*Ariel*~



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[info]rogue
2004-03-08 08:22 am UTC (link)
I was just waiting for someone to post this. *lol*

Yeah, a lot of childfree people hate kids and would really like to kick them in the head when they start screaming. But, y'know, this is why we're childfree.

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[info]fishandbicycle
2004-03-08 08:47 am UTC (link)
Better hating kids and childfree than hating kids and having six teenagers, as they say.

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[info]judyhazeleyes
2004-03-08 10:24 pm UTC (link)
i think the hating kids/having six teenagers equation would be very likely to work the other way, myself. i know that'd do it for me.

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[info]arielchan
2004-03-08 06:18 pm UTC (link)
Two words: icon love!

*drool*

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[info]musette
2004-03-08 09:02 am UTC (link)
Ahhh childfree wank, it's been a good three days since we've had any spooge from those parts. *snorts*

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[info]starherd
2004-03-08 12:16 pm UTC (link)
duuude... your icon rocks my world :-D

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[info]musette
2004-03-08 07:45 pm UTC (link)
*g* My icon thanks you!

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(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2004-03-09 12:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]starherd, 2004-03-09 01:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]crickets, 2004-03-09 10:47 pm UTC

[info]visp
2004-03-08 09:00 pm UTC (link)
Yep. *huggles childfree* My favorite wank spot and community all in one!

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Re: - [info]musette, 2004-03-08 09:02 pm UTC

[info]sarajayechan
2004-03-09 12:28 am UTC (link)
*molests teh icon*

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Re: - [info]musette, 2004-03-09 01:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2004-03-09 01:13 am UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-03-09 01:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2004-03-09 01:34 am UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-03-09 01:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2004-03-09 01:58 am UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-03-09 02:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2004-03-09 02:05 am UTC
Re: - [info]musette, 2004-03-09 02:07 am UTC

[info]big_bad_wolf
2004-03-08 01:58 pm UTC (link)
Someone in that thread said "I don't want to hurt children, I just don't want them anywhere near me".

I wanted to give her a Huuuuuuge amen, but they've disabled non-friend posting.

*le sigh*

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Sorry for OT-ness, but...
[info]sarajayechan
2004-03-09 12:28 am UTC (link)
3rd icon-love reply in a row! XD

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[info]oxydosic
2004-03-08 02:41 pm UTC (link)
This probably fits more at [info]otf_wank. Anyway...that mother needs to get her head out of the sand. Ignoring it is not making the problem better. She needs to put her foot down. And as someone who was bullied through her entire school career, i'm not real big on letting the kids make fun of her, but i do kind of see dawnsong's point.

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[info]snacky
2004-03-08 05:24 pm UTC (link)
Not fandom, is it? [info]otf_wank is waiting. Because yes, this IS wanky!

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[info]yadda
2004-03-08 05:46 pm UTC (link)
Poor little otf_wank. He looks so lonely. All by himself wishing someone would come post about childfree on him. *pets*

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(no subject) - [info]vassilissa, 2004-03-09 10:22 am UTC

[info]apoplexia
2004-03-08 09:07 pm UTC (link)
Jesus H Christ on a popsicle stick! This is why I took one look at this community and said: no thanks! I'll be over here with people who don't have children, but don't actually want to beat them. I'm sorry, but I want to fucking flay the OP. That sort of think just really gets my goat. And I was saving it.

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[info]judyhazeleyes
2004-03-08 09:13 pm UTC (link)
they're a wee bit over the top, yes. i'm always amused by people who seem to think that they burst from their mother's wombs as adults, turned around and said "well, that was unpleasant. thanks, mother, but i think i can take it from here," and went off to buy their first apartments.

sorry folks, but everyone was a screaming brat at one time or another. i bet they would've loved it if their mothers had drop-kicked them down the stairs every time they threw a tantrum: "hey, i deserved it - i was a filthy little child! i'm surprised she didn't brain me with a baseball bat every other day."

that said, i don't want to have kids either. at all. but this level of hatred for them is rather alarming.

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(no subject) - [info]apoplexia, 2004-03-08 09:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]arielchan, 2004-03-08 09:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]apoplexia, 2004-03-08 09:40 pm UTC

[info]iczer6
2004-03-08 10:09 pm UTC (link)
So let me get this straight, the OP posts a story about a girl who shits in her pants in class and then smears it on the wall whose mother refused to do anything about and basically told the teacher it's her problem, and she's the one with issues.

Because no one could ever be exasperated with children and need to vent.

Look there is a lot about CF that I could do without but I do get sick and tired of the whole 'they dislike children so their child-abusers' train of thought.

Then again I'm a heathen who thinks that maybe just maybe some people shouldn't HAVE kids and that many, many children out there could actually use a good spanking.

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(no subject) - [info]judyhazeleyes, 2004-03-08 10:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]apoplexia, 2004-03-08 10:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2004-03-08 10:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]apoplexia, 2004-03-08 10:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2004-03-08 10:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-03-08 11:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2004-03-08 11:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-03-09 12:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2004-03-09 02:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2004-03-09 12:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lots42, 2004-03-09 05:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lots42, 2004-03-09 07:27 pm UTC

[info]curlyjo
2004-03-10 08:03 am UTC (link)
Um, at what point were most of the people in the group (aside from the odd extremist wacko in every group) SERIOUSLY saying, "Yeah! Smack the kid a few times! That'll learn her! Haw!"

The community is for venting. The occasional mental, "Wow I'd love to spank that kid to get her to shut up." Would anyone actually be likely to walk up to a random kid and spank them? Hell no.

*rolls eyes*

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[info]sarajayechan
2004-03-08 09:10 pm UTC (link)
X_x Just the decription of the kid's actions in the original post is sick enough. GAH.

*reads futuregirl's first post*

...And she came up with this all from one post that didn't even mention harming a child? -_-

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[info]moonjaguar
2004-03-08 09:41 pm UTC (link)
First: Your icon is dead appropriate for this discussion!

All the post mentioned was the teacher confronting the mother about her child's behavior and stating that her kid needs help. I mean, a kid who shits in her pants as part of a tantrum at age six has a serious head case problem. As long as maybe some digestive issues that get aggravated with the stress of the tantrum (which sounds more like a tantrum normal for a two year old and not a six year old) that need to be addressed by a physician. It's stressful for the other kids, for the teaching staff and not to mention the little girl who obviously needs help. I say yay for the teacher!

That takes me back. I went through a period of refusing to properly wash my hair when I was about nine and quite old enough to figure out the mechanics of it, plus my hair was short so it wasn't like I had butt-length hair that needed a little extra attention to keep clean. The kids in my class were refusing to go near me and what friends I had who hadn't decided to stay away from me frankly told me that my hair was greasy and stinky and the smell made them want to barf (and there was a rhyme about my stinky hair which I wish I could remember because I'd probably laugh like hell at it now).

I thought they were being unfair and meeean to me. Some point a lightbulb went off and I noticed and said to myself, "My hair is greasy, my combs and brushes have goop in them, that's gross!" So into the shower I went to wash my hair. The kids saw me come to class with nice shiny hair and the complaints and taunts about stinky hair stopped because I corrected the situation. The reason my teacher never said anything about it was because this particular teacher preferred to ignore a lot of stuff, I think she was just going through the motions and not paying attention to what the kids were doing.

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(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2004-03-09 12:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladyofviolets, 2004-03-09 07:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]crickets, 2004-03-09 10:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladyofviolets, 2004-03-09 11:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]crickets, 2004-03-09 11:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladyofviolets, 2004-03-09 11:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2004-03-11 05:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2004-03-11 05:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladyofviolets, 2004-03-12 08:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2004-03-09 01:47 am UTC

redwarrior
2004-03-09 12:29 am UTC (link)
THAT child in the OP would scare me. Sounds like serious emotional disturbance, or, excuse the pun, shitty parenting.

And "futuregirl" is a bitch. Pure and simple. (She doesn't seem to get the idea of the whole comm/thread.)

And this OP reminds me of an equally wanky situation in my hometown...there is this woman, we think she's borderline retarded, who shits in people's lawns. Some days you can actually see her doing her business...it SCARES ME.

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[info]pirotess
2004-03-09 05:09 am UTC (link)
My favourite part has just got to be the form letter.

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[info]big_bad_wolf
2004-03-09 04:30 pm UTC (link)
The form letter ownz. Totally.

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Mistake
(Anonymous)
2004-03-10 12:04 am UTC (link)
Just FYI:

bites_the_sun actually isn't a troll . . . she's a good participant in the community and has been there a while. Not sure how this mix-up occurred, but it is just that.

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(Anonymous)
2004-03-10 03:20 am UTC (link)
For those of you who are so stuck ont he childfree hating children and wanting to abuse them you are all soooo wrong. Not everyone who is childfree is the same. The majority of us tend to yell and scream bloody murder when we see Child abuse happining, however a child who's mother neglets them and their problem, thats child abuse... get it.

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