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encouraging hate and bad feelings ([info]feenix) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-03-08 17:38:00


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Current mood: high

"Oh, I am *so* going to pay for being involved in this, but it's worth it!"
-[info]calluna. (Hey, sorry, but it's damn funny.)

First, I'll fess up: I am an attention whore. And I don't care. I'd post this in [info]i_wank, but it's just too sensational to not share with the greater community. Those who dislike Gaia wank can turn away right now.

And besides, Gaia's almost like a fandom now, right?

(Warning: Writeup may cause blindness and hairy palms. And there's multiple wank running concurrently!)

It all started on February 3 in the Gaia Exchange, where users can try to rip off sell items to other users. Up until then, there was only one price guide--the Gaian Exchange Network or GEN. That night, another price guide popped up called the Estimated Value Items List (or EVIL).

Being that there were two guides running concurrently, something unprecedented in Gaia, there was a huge hoopla. I, as a guest writer for GEN (keep that in mind), decided that it'd be cool to interview the leaders of each price guide (Chibigreen Tejinashi and Senbei) and see what their views were. At the time, I also didn't know that Senbei was basically the sockpuppet of Araunah and the rest of EVIL (IIRC).

I posted the respective interviews here and followed them up with an essay on what I thought of EVIL (that they should stay around, and that they'd break any illusion of a monopoly). It was read, commented on, and ultimately ignored.

As the month went on, Gaia adjusted to two price guides. Though there was some initial bitterness between both sides, it all died down, for the most part. In the end, most people ended up supporting the idea of both lists, including myself and most of GEN and EVIL. (In fact, it's linked to in their guide.) Both guides forged a truce for their members to not flame or make fun of each other, which was respected for the most part. Also, note this.

The only one who seemed to perpetuate the rivalry was Araunah, who made occasional cameos in the GEN thread to make fun of them and also made an AYB parody sig featuring Chibigreen. However, for the most part it was peaceful.

All right, enough background; let's get to the wank.

GEN is stickied at the top of the Exchange Forum, while EVIL is not. EVIL members feel that they'd have more credibility if they were a sticky. So, CelestialWolfGirl starts a Questions and Feedback thread on the matter, which is worded very politely.

Most of the early entries are relatively nonwanky; I say my position (that I have reservations, but they should be given a chance) at the bottom of the second page and toddle off on my own. Then [info]calluna, who is NOT a part of GEN, comes in and states that while most EVILers are civil, Senbei/Araunah...is not.

Araunah makes an appearance right afterwards and accuses her of flaming EVIL. Calluna replies that she wasn't flaming him and suggests that he might be stalking her, since every time she criticizes him, he shows up two minutes later. Discussion switches to be about S/A, and Calluna cites my interview--specifically the part where Senbei says that he's questing for a gold medal.

Araunah denies the accusations, so Calluna finds the article and posts it. He then tells her to get out of his thread.

Meanwhile, one of his monkeys fanboys comes in to suggest that I made the interview up.

I'm surfing Gaia peacefully, when I suddenly get a PM from Calluna about how he's denying the entire thing. My first reaction?

Holy. Fucking. Shit.

Post that to Fandom_Wank RIGHT NOW. I'll be over at the thread in a little bit.


I read over what's been posted, and flip the fuck out. I then proceed to tear Araunah a new asshole, not only in the thread, but also in PM.

First, I highly resent you calling me a liar. That was my interview that you and your supporters wrote off as rubbish.

As a non-member of the GEN (though a frequent essay-writer), I should have no reason whatsoever to support them. Even if I were a member...GEN is just a price guide. They are NOT there to regulate the market, and it looks like the members understand that. GEN is not trying to create a monopoly.

I've actually advocated you guys, even in your own sticky petition. At the bottom of page 2, I said that I would support you being stickied, although with reservations.

http://josie.go-gaia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=58707055#58707055

The fact that you and Shadow_Wing called me a liar, in light of that, just completely destroyed any support that I had for you guys.

In short, thank you for turning against one of your supporters who hangs out at the GEN thread. I thought the flamewars in GEN were somewhat ridiculous (especially since they seemed to damage your credibility more than help it), but you've really outdone yourself this time.


Araunah responds to the PM saying that he didn't trust it because it was posted in GEN, and that he has no idea who the fuck Shadow_Wing is.

I...go postal.

Does it matter where it's posted?

Do you think Chibigreen or any of the other GEN-ers held a gun to my head and made me write horrible things about you? Believe me, if I wanted to slander you, I could have done a hell of a lot worse.

You're still calling me a liar, regardless. Though it might have been one of the people who had access to Senbei that replied to me, and not yourself, it's still your exact same words. I did not switch a single word around at all.

And if this is all a huge ploy to strong-arm me into writing glowing praise about you, go to hell. Seriously. Report me to a mod if you so wish, because I'm really at my wit's end with this.


He then denies calling me a liar again (just that the interview wasn't trustworthy because I didn't post it in EVIL), and apologizes for the implication.

Meanwhile, I'm nearly about to reach through my computer and beat the living shit out of him IRL. Unfortunately, since I know when to quit, I just left it as-is and started wanking all over my LJ and other places on Gaia. (I will drag those up if you so wish.)

While that's the sensational wank (IMHO), the entire thread is a complete goldmine. Scratch, that, it's a three-ring circus.

Besides the essay wank, there's also drama about a banner (with Ara taking credit for someone else's work) and the rumor that EVIL posted during the ball on Saturday. I'd write accounts for both of them, but that'd make the journal entry far too long.

God, I love Gaia. And there's another wank account that I should write up from the G_O LJ comm about us being EVAL BITCHES just because some of us don't think that Cigarette is dying. *sigh* But all the good comments were deleted from that...



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[info]byagghametta
2004-03-09 03:49 am UTC (link)
Bwahah! I've been waiting for the GEN/EVIL thing to hit the fan. :D It's been a long strange trip in those threads...and it's a beautifully confusing and twisted story.

People ask me why I'm afraid of the exchange. I think you have now given me an accurate reason why. XD

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[info]byagghametta
2004-03-09 03:52 am UTC (link)
Also: I don't believe Cigarette myself. Frankly I think she's just trying to capitalize on a falsehood and really think she should be racked in her chick-nuts. But that's me.

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[info]rowan
2004-03-09 04:51 am UTC (link)
Mmm, GEN/EVIL wank. OTP! theirloveissoeconomical.

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[info]loki
2004-03-09 05:31 am UTC (link)
And now I know why my friend doesn't want to be a mod in the Exchange Forum. Oy, what an asshole.

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[info]calluna
2004-03-09 07:28 am UTC (link)
I thought you'd changed your mind about posting, but now I see it was because you were still knee deep in the wank. ;)

Ya, the stalking accusation went a bit far, but how come he never responds to Jynk when she says the same things and worse?

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[info]feenix
2004-03-09 09:24 am UTC (link)
Eh, my eyes started to cross from the spooge, so I sort of implied you wanking where you really weren't. Personally, I think it's because he secretly loves you Jynk's A GENer, and they're not supposed to flame each other. (Don't get me started on what I think of either of them, but that's another wank.)

I actually wanted you to have the honors of posting it, which is why I waited so long. (Well, that and the fact that I WAS knee-deep in wank, not only on Gaia, but on my flist on LJ.)

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[info]calluna
2004-03-09 09:39 am UTC (link)
Personally, I think it's because Jynk's A GENer, and they're not supposed to flame each other.

Yeah, but then he took my comment as the GEN being hypocritical, so I think he thinks I am a member...

Sorry, would have done it myself if you hadn't already said you were going to.

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[info]oxydosic
2004-03-09 03:53 pm UTC (link)
Now i remember why i hardly socialize on Gaia. It's packed full of people like this. And yeah, the GEN/EVIL blowout was only a matter of time.

Uh, slightly OT, but is Gaia kerflooey for anyone else today? All i get is 'cannot be displayed' or critical errors.

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[info]julia
2004-03-09 05:04 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, it seems rather dead for me, too. *stabs it a few times*

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[info]byagghametta
2004-03-09 08:23 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, the main server and a few of the others seem to be down... the sideline servers can't connect to their own databases either. Ive tried 'em all.

And there I wanted to see if Lanzer had gotten around to moding my friend yet.

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[info]coyotegirl
2004-03-09 09:20 pm UTC (link)
I do my damndest to avoid the people like that, or ignore them. My current Gaian residence is fairly idiot-free, thank goodness.

Kaflooey for me, too, like a thing that's kaflooey.

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[info]els_chan
2004-03-09 11:37 pm UTC (link)
It's precisely why I have my guild (well, that and the whole having an unholy army of minions bit). When the wank gets to be too much (and even the FF forum is getting there lately), I have a nice, humble retreat to...um, retreat to.

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[info]coyotegirl
2004-03-10 03:06 am UTC (link)
Well, I do have one persistant idiot; but he doesn't seem to be doing it on purpose, I can't find a solid reason to kick him out, and he appears to plan on giving me gold someday, so I have reluctantly allowed him to stay.

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[info]els_chan
2004-03-09 11:38 pm UTC (link)
Yep, I've been getting that too.

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