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talking sock ([info]talkingsock) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2003-04-11 09:33:00


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It's intelli-wank!
This probably won't be appreciated very much by fandom_wankers, since the posts use lots and lots of big long academic type words, and everybody knows this is just a pack of drooling hyenas with less than half a brain between us. But I thought if I posted it here it might make us look more smarter!

It all started when Jenny-O had a rant (based on things happening in still other LJs) about "art and morality" which in itself was mostly an intelli-commentary and not a wank. Your stomach lining is not my morality, and I'm sort of worried that artists are the ones who have to consider this because no one else does the teaching that fantasy and reality are usually two very separate things, and that make-believe is the land of id. And does not have to correspond to reality and ego any more than you want it to. I mean who can argue with that.

But lo, there are LJ comments, and people get uppity.

Leadensky makes a comment best summarized as:"...reading slash had had an impact on my personal moral judgments regarding (particularly male) homosexuality ... if I were to read a quantity of well-written fiction that depicted adult male/preteen boys in loving, positive relationships, that I might start to change my (highly negative) opinion of pedophilia." which insults Roseveare:"Er... I'm fairly sure you don't mean it that way, but I don't know if you realised how *incredibly* offensive that came across as upon first reading, especially given how you're equating slash/gay relationships with paedophilia in the next line."

There follows a descent into a long back and forth discussion with lots of big words being thrown around and a general underlying tone of conflict.

Finally it moves to another journal where it becomes a personal attack.


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[info]potter_wank
2003-04-11 05:05 pm UTC (link)
I miss the good old days when people used little words that were easy to spell, and stole them from other people.

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[info]sorchar
2003-04-11 05:58 pm UTC (link)
thats cuz ur a dam hary potter plageroist!!1 LOLOLO!1!!!

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[info]sorchar
2003-04-11 05:59 pm UTC (link)
I heart intelliwank. Especially when it also encompasses morality wank.

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[info]lcsbanana
2003-04-11 06:12 pm UTC (link)
can we pass an unwritten law that no one is ever allowed to talk about pedophilia as if it were a CONTAGIOUS DISEASE ever ever ever again?

also, i can't believe i read the whole thing. somebody slap me upside the head, please?

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[info]shuntbumps
2003-04-11 08:18 pm UTC (link)
*slaps you*

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[info]sajasma
2003-04-12 02:09 am UTC (link)
So did I. Why?!?! They use the censorship of Huck Finn - Huck Finn - as a positive example of censorship because it has "offensive words" like "nigger"? (While at first, I was under the impression that leadensky was against this particular censorship, a comment about the use of "nigger" in a later comment changed my mind)

Gahhhh! Me wants to slap her!

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[info]diamonde
2003-04-13 12:07 pm UTC (link)
'The day they came to arrest the book'. Best discussion of censorship ever, with Huck Finn as the subject. Because it has that naughty N-word, and doesn't explicity state in very small words that maybe treating people differently because of skin colour isn't the most ethically sound idea.

Because, as this person tells us, if it wasn't harmful it wouldn't be banned! Like 'Tom Sawyer' and 'The Picture of Dorian Grey' and 'The Origin of the Species' and 'Macbeth' were or are in places. Kiddie-warpers all. If I have any kids, they certainly won't be reading that kind of thing, oh no. A steady diet of superhero comics and RPS. That'll teach 'em right from wrong.

And on that note, I believe I'll stop wanking and mock myself some.

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[info]ingrid
2003-04-11 08:19 pm UTC (link)
and everybody knows this is just a pack of drooling hyenas

ARRR-OOOOOOO!!!!

with less than half a brain between us.

Huh?

I tried keeping up with this one (isn't [info]pandarus a major debater on this topic too?) but then [info]phosphate wanted the gray cells I was borrowing from the community brain for something and that was it for me.

Just like the brilliant plots of "Heckle and Jeckle", if you miss the first two minutes, you're lost.

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[info]roseveare
2003-04-11 08:38 pm UTC (link)
*blinks*

Cool! I made wank! Whaddya know, this discussion was good for something other than the massive thumping three-day headache.

*does the dance of wank*

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[info]bonibaru
2003-04-11 09:13 pm UTC (link)
*is proud of you*

:)

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[info]roseveare
2003-04-11 09:16 pm UTC (link)
...do I get a badge?

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[info]bonibaru
2003-04-11 09:24 pm UTC (link)
You don't need no steeenking badges!

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[info]roseveare
2003-04-11 09:31 pm UTC (link)
Damn it! Lousy cheapskate community, how else will I display my wank to the world, so that all can boggle and admire???

...

*eyes recent and not-so-recent journal posts*

Ah. Never mind.

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[info]cesare
2003-04-11 10:05 pm UTC (link)
Hee! This is the best extragroup response we've had to a wanking in a long time.

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[info]roseveare
2003-04-11 11:40 pm UTC (link)
Actually, I've been lurking around on and off ever since Blurty. So I guess I'm like a wank-groupie...

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[info]gairid
2003-04-12 04:19 am UTC (link)
*loves groupies...loves intelliwank.* Roseveare, you are SO one of us.

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[info]roseveare
2003-04-12 01:58 pm UTC (link)
Aw, shucks...

I bet I still won't get a badge, though. *pout*

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[info]lasayla
2003-04-13 11:17 pm UTC (link)
No, but if you get wanked twice more without throwing a snit-fit, you get a tinfoil hat and are officially considered 'classy'!

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[info]loafing_oaf
2003-04-11 09:00 pm UTC (link)
I read most of it (Christ it was almost as bad as being at DL.

My favourite part was the idea that if you read a novel where the main character commits murder, and it turns out to be a good thing for them, then you may feel murder will solve your problems too?

There are no words to express my disbelief at that nugget.

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[info]pradaloz
2003-04-11 10:13 pm UTC (link)
My favourite part was the idea that if you read a novel where the main character commits murder, and it turns out to be a good thing for them, then you may feel murder will solve your problems too?

I know, what the hell? I don't need a book to tell me *that.*

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[info]sajasma
2003-04-12 02:12 am UTC (link)
My favourite part was the idea that if you read a novel where the main character commits murder, and it turns out to be a good thing for them, then you may feel murder will solve your problems too?

*Drools* Wot? You mean it's not? *Blank eyed gaze*

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[info]morganya
2003-04-12 04:07 am UTC (link)
I do not argue that a person is responsible for their own actions. I do take issue with the argument that the artist – as planter of suggestion – is without responsibility.

Writer plant bad things in my braaaaaaain.

On a side note, I wonder about someone whose moral compass is controlled by reading a Snape/Optimus Prime PWP.

What? It could happen.

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[info]sorchar
2003-04-12 05:55 am UTC (link)
Does this mean that if I write a story about Shane McMahon and Brian Kendrick having hot monkey sex for my personal enjoyment, and they happen to read this story, it will make them do it?

*scurries off to write*

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[info]kimera
2003-04-13 04:01 am UTC (link)
If you write it, they will-

You know what, I'm not even going to finish that sentence.

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[info]sorchar
2003-04-12 05:56 am UTC (link)
And actually, we're NOT a pack of drooling hyenas. We were RAISED by hyenas. Please make a note of this for future reference. ;)

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[info]roseveare
2003-04-12 01:55 pm UTC (link)
FYI: The morality wank marches on.

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[info]madmouth
2003-04-12 10:15 pm UTC (link)
I'm amazed at how many people have the juice to elaborate on a single point with 700 more paragraphs than they should.
the energizer bunnies of wankery.

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[info]darthtall
2003-04-13 10:49 pm UTC (link)
Saaaaaaay... who is that in your icon? I have a guess, but then I would have to admit to watching a really bad tv show, so I'd rather you tell me. :)

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[info]embitca
2003-04-14 02:47 am UTC (link)
Oww! My brain hurts. I think I need an icepack for it because it's just been overworked.

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