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Meshou (meshou) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-03-13 02:22:00


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Current mood:bored
Current music:A Weird French Subtitled Movie.
Entry tags:anime/manga, fandom: fruits basket, yaoi

Won't somebody think of the children??
.... They think of you. Naked.

First time wank. Do me hard Be gentle.

Disclaimer-- I know the person who was a "victim" in this, but merely asked her permission to wank this. I don't know the wanker except by reputation and a site she ran. I joined the forums after she left. Also 70% fandom related, so I didn't put this in OTF wank.

There is some backstory, but it also counts as wanky. Here I go~

There once was a woman on the Fruits Basket Forums named Lin aka [info]honchi. Lin posted, and posted and posted, so she is still the member with the 3rd most posts, even after being gone for nearly a year. She was respected. Became a mod. Had the best Fruits Basket site on the web.

And now her fandom dead from yaoi.

/Nooooo... my... eyes... @_@, my fav anime... ruined by......yaoi.
Say it ain't so... say it ain't so~!!!!

More info on my OMAKE --> RUMORS section if you really want to read up on it... I don't want to spoil it anymore then I have... ;_; *sniffles*
I guess it was to be expected, BUT STILL~!!!!! ...Natsuki Takaya-san didn't have to... did she...?
/

So, she throws a snit in several threads, finally culminating in her leaving.

But this is over, right? We can thank God that, like all things, the wank must end, right?

But it was not meant to be.

Enter Emigiri, one time friend of Lin. At the time she was a typical 13 year old, but she's grown into both a respected member of the forums and a mod. She mildly supported yaoi, and began drawing progressively smutty drawings. Recently, she became open (at least online) with her sexual preference.

Cue the spooge. Here's small clip from this insanely wanky post:

/Emi, if you actually get around to reading this ... I didn't think you were capable of going that low. Really. I know you have issues, and if you'd like to talk, I'm still willing to talk to you. But you never seem to want to talk to me, so I just took the "hint." I'm not another one of your teenage friends, so I'd appreciate it if you'd stop treating me like such. I don't play the game you're playing./

Now, she Pines for the good 'ol days when her friend was not teh gay.

/The good ol' days...
... are gone. I know times change and all of that, but I can't help but remember and reminisce. *sigh*

Emi was a good friend of mine for a very long time. We "met" via my Fruits Basket site (Onigiri ::: Riceball Paradise) and chatted from there, getting to know each other over a period of time. We even met IRL during the year before's (2003) Chinese New Year parade in L.A Chinatown.

I just went through some of my old fanart by her... before she started drawing the stuff that I can't believe she's drawing. She used to be so good at what she did! She's still very talented -- probably even more so than before -- and would always talk to me when I needed somebody to talk to. She was like my little sister and I would even sometimes jokingly call her "imouto-chan" and I was just glad to find somebody that had a lot of things in common with me, one being the "not-caring-for-yaoi-het-yuri" stuff, and the other was being a Christian.

Here are some of her past fanart she's given me...

My favorite was her Momiji one. ^^; Although I loved them all.

I miss those times... a lot. I miss her, but not the person she is now. She actually scares me now, but that doesn't matter. I can't believe that it's been over a year now since all of this "change" has happened....
/

The comments on both those posts are also priceless.

Please, before you wank, think of the children. It isn't pretty when a grown woman hurts an alienates a kid for liking peeps and boobies. I don't think that's what Jesus had in mind. *points at my icon*

Edit: Took out links to the minor's LJ, which I was told violated the ToS.

Edit the Second: The woman wanked on the girl's Journal. I cannot link to the girl's journal... so I took handy screenshots! They're biggish because of all the spooge, so after I got the 3 screenshots I took edited together, I cut it in half for easier load time.

First part * Second Part

I replied, basically a longer, more serious version of "You make baby Jesus cry, bitch. STFU." So yeah, I'm dirty now. But it's so GOOD to be dirty sometimes.

Last Edit (I hope): Anon troll alert. Do not feed it. It was thrown off the board for flaming people for liking yaoi. Here's further details, but it deserves a wank of its own.



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(Anonymous)
2004-03-13 07:31 pm UTC (link)
hehe sounds like fun :)
I'm just amused that people wank furuba over this woman's personal gripe with her friend's coming out of the closet. I don't see how one have to do with the other. .

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meshou
2004-03-13 07:46 pm UTC (link)
1) Both were on the same forum/ fandom. If you'll notice, all the Fanart Lin links to is by Emi about Fruits Basket.

2) If you'll notice, Lin identifies "over a year ago" as when things started to go wrong with Emi. That's around the time Emi was firmly in the closet, but said she "only supported one pairing." It's a continuation of off board board wank, which I can't link to on the minor's journal.

3) The Lin LJ spooge came shortly after a fandom-related post in Emi's LJ where she mentions she's bisexual, which I can't link to.

So, this is partially OTF wank stemming from two people who met on a Fruits Basket related site, were on a fruits Basket Board, and part of why Lin left was over other members (ESPECIALLY Emi, who is referred to as the "Yaoi Pope" on the board) linking Yaoi. This flamewar was so bad, the board changed the rules to explicitly say yaoi was expected content. Very hard to make the connection 100% solid, but yaoi is fandom related, she refers to fanart when wanking, and this would not have happened without the Fruits Basket Fandom.

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(Anonymous)
2004-03-13 08:08 pm UTC (link)
i guess it's her problem than. If the board says yuri/yaoi discussion is expected and tolerated than she should join if that's not what she likes. There are fruits basket groups that are dedicated to general or het related discussions.
Fruity Mailing list is a good place to head to for general indepth discussion though it does get wanky with the canon pairing battles.
So moral of story, don't like don't join :)

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meshou
2004-03-13 08:20 pm UTC (link)
Oh, HELLO, Mythos!

You see, I'm a Mod, and I can see the IP number you used on the board and here! And they match! :) See?



Everyone, this is Mythos, the board's pet troll. Until we booted her. But that's another wank, and definitely fandom related! Perhaps, someday, I can share! Thank you for reminding me!

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Re: Hmm...
[info]yadda
2004-03-14 02:24 am UTC (link)
Eh? I think you're mistaken.

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Re: Hmm...
[info]yadda
2004-03-14 02:38 am UTC (link)
Well, although revealing personal info is a general internet etiquette no-no I don't think it's ever been a community or journalfen rule. I don't think IP addresses count as private information, anyway. It's not like it's possible really keep them private in the first place.

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[info]delfeus
2004-03-14 12:11 pm UTC (link)
you probably didn't have the http:// in the beginning. It links to the main site in that case.

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Re: Hmm...
[info]yadda
2004-03-14 04:58 am UTC (link)
Eh, I've seen trolls before that said they had anonymizers but their addresses still showed up most of the time. I get the feeling most of those programs don't work very well.

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Re: Hmm...
meshou
2004-03-14 02:29 am UTC (link)
I am currently Member of the month. During that time there are privilege difficulties-- you can't simultaneously be a mod and MOTM.

However, I AM listed as a Global Mod--here. Normally, I just manage the Character worship section and the sub-forums. I was telling her how I knew. If you make a F_W post, you can see the IP addresses.

I can fuzzy out a few numbers, or take down the image if a mod tells me it's necessary. An IP address doesn't tell you much, just that it's the same person. I didn't post her e-mail, name, or home address, or anything which could lead to those things without further information. It just confirms this is the same person.

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Re: Hmm...
meshou
2004-03-14 02:50 am UTC (link)
Here are 2 things I can attest--

She has a fixed IP. Your internet will not work if you have the same IP address as someone already online.

She has 80-something posts (or so) on the forums. She's always had the same one.

Even if you were to have a non-fixed IP, there are 4.1 billion posable IP addresses out there. Since IP are allocated in packets to ISPs, the chances of two different, unrelated people posting on fandom wank having the same IP address are astronomical. The chances of the same person having two are fairly likely, what with rotating IPs and dailup services.

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Re: Hmm...
meshou
2004-03-14 02:42 am UTC (link)
Well, seeing as it gives only the region, I'll leave it be. If it gave her name, I'd yank it.

I doubt I'll ever get the chance to, but if it ever does come up again, I'll make sure to check first.

However, it is kind of common knowledge...? I mean, the mods on that board and here are a list of 30 people who already know it. I "know" the IP address of every person who posted here and the board I'm on.

So, I'll be more careful, but it's hard to be careful with public information.

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Re: Hmm...
[info]system
2004-03-14 04:57 am UTC (link)
Actually, there are many boards out there that do openly post IP addresses, automatically, for the whole world to see. It's just not part of JournalFen's programming to automatically make them publically available.

IP addresses aren't protected, private information. JournalFen's policy on posting private information is as follows:

Phone numbers and physical addresses are positively forbidden.

Real names are forbidden, when a person has obviously gone to the trouble to use a pseud. When someone has openly used their real name in their fannish interactions, they're shit out of luck.

Email addresses are protected under certain circumstances. Email addresses that have been openly used in fannish interactions are fair game. Email addresses, such as work addresses, are private if the person has obviously gone to lengths to keep that address private.

Which means none of this crap in which Suzy Fan decides to out her former friend, JuJu Fan by giving out a work email address that JuJu privately used with her when they got along, but JuJu otherwise kept under wraps. We don't want to end up in the middle of crap between Suzy and JuJu, and if we do end up in the middle, we'll err on the side of caution and yank the work address because it's the right thing to do. But we'll be sure to publically spank both Suzy and JuJu for being utter, fucking nitwits and dragging us into their bitch fight.

And while we're at it, for anyone else watching this thread who is wanting to lodge official complaints and reports of potential abuse, we take each and every one very seriously. If there is a violation of the TOS, we act upon it, regardless of whether the person violating the terms is someone we personally like. Nobody gets off on a technicality and not even friends get a free pass, here.

However, laughing at you publically, pointing out kerfuffles, and generally not being nice do not equate to abuse or harassment. If you don't want your idiocy spotlighted, then our advice is to stop being an idiotic in public. Bringing 'the Lord' into it will get you nowhere, also. The JF admins are both atheists.

We don't promise to make people play nice and to hold hands and sing Kumbayah; we only promise to act on genuine abuses when they occur, and to act on them as swiftly as we possibly can. Sometimes it involves a judgment call, and at those times we will use our best judgment.

-Robin
The generally acknowledged Nice JF Admin

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sigh - [info]zorrorojo, 2004-03-14 07:49 am UTC

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Uuhhh.... ^^;;; - meshou, 2004-03-14 09:12 am UTC

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I dunno... - [info]wankprophet, 2004-03-14 06:14 pm UTC
Re: I dunno... - [info]zorrorojo, 2004-03-14 09:18 pm UTC
Re: I dunno... - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2004-03-14 11:04 pm UTC
Re: I dunno... - [info]eljuno, 2004-03-15 02:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankprophet, 2004-03-15 03:47 am UTC
Re: I dunno... - [info]deoridhe, 2004-03-15 11:29 pm UTC
Re: I dunno... - [info]eljuno, 2004-03-16 05:02 am UTC
Re: I dunno... - [info]deoridhe, 2004-03-16 05:21 pm UTC

[info]loki
2004-03-14 04:07 pm UTC (link)
I thought there was some rule on f_w against posting people's personal information like I.P. addresses here which are obviously personally identifying information? Anyone?

Notice! This user has turned on the option that logs your IP address when posting.

Why would JF have a rule against posting IP addresses when most of the communities log them?

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[info]ecchaniz0r
2004-03-15 06:42 pm UTC (link)
It wouldn't. Like, duh.

phoenix, you have a good point about the possibility that the anon isn't the old flamer...but IP addresses are pretty much free for the ogling. They're not private info. 9_9

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