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Bunny (![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small} bunny) wrote in ![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/community.gif){kind=small} fandom_wank,@ 2004-03-21 21:37:00 |
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Fresh HP wank: And the ships sailed on
The Leaky Cauldron plugs the result of a HP fandom survey. The survey also asked the question: Do you think any romantic relationships will develop in the next two books? If so, between whom? (You can pick more than one answer, but only one with each character!)
Out of the 4609 people, who answered this question, 3647 voted Ron/Hermione.
Wank ensues in TLC comments section.
I'm rather dismayed that so many idiots complained about the lack of homosexual relationships. I've nothing against gay people (I'm related to one) but there's no need to read your fantasies into something that isn't there. Like the sad, sad people who want a relationship between Hermione and Draco. I do find it extremely interesting, however, that the Herm/Ron relationship is being accelerated in the films. In CoS we had the non-hug, and in PoA, we have the hand-holding. I say interesting, as JK has final approval over certain plot elements, and for her to allow this means a hell of a lot in my book..
ETA More wank:
WQM on Percy/Ginny: I went to the Live Journal poll out of curiousity. Someone said they ship Percy and Ginny. That's just sick. Love is not Percy snogging his little sister. What's wrong with people!?
To which the site's uber-editor Melissa A. replies with: WQM, I'm with you. Other people I know have been slammed (ridiculously so) for saying it, but I too think such pairings are disgusting and contradictory to the tone of JKR's books. It makes me ill and sad when they're represented by fans as anything other than a completely impossible turn on canon.
Ari adds her two cents on incest and gets the following response:
#1: "Weasleycest"!!??
It took me a couple of seconds to realize what this meant. Then it dawned on me this actually was a reference to fanfics featuring incestuous relations involving Ginny Weasley and any one of her brothers.
Also equally repulsive were some fanfics I once came across featuring an incestuous relationship involving Lucius Malfoy and his son, Draco.
When will it ever occur to some people that incest is not a form of hetero- or homo- eroticism?
As Lilly indicated: "~ even the merest thought about about suggestion about a relationship between siblings is depraved, and has no place in the HP universe. Not even in jest."
And as Melissa also pointed out: "it's my opinion that it's wrong, and that such such pairings are disgusting and contradictory to the tone of JKR's books. It makes me ill and sad when they're represented by fans as anything other than a completely impossible turn on canon."
Amen Lilly and Melissa. I couldn't have said it better myself. You speak for most of us.
Commenter #2: Frankly, incest is just ... well, I'm not supposed to say anything if I can't say anything at all. I have two older half-siblings who I didn't grow up with. I adore my older sister and my brother is an absolute prince. I would never EVER think about having any kind of relationship like that with either them. Your family are the people you should be able to trust. Sadly, this is not the case in all families.
My best friend has been molested by her uncle and also her step-brother. When she told her family what happened, they just pretended it had never occured and never spoke of it again. They didn't defend her or protect her. Because of all this, she's moved to Canada with me to get away from her family. She doesn't trust them any more.
This is what incest and pretending it's "OK" does to people. She has horrible self esteem and stress issues. She feels like she can't trust anyone.
Commenter #3: Ari commented: "I've written Ginny/Ron. I don't think it was depraved to do so. I do not expect to see it canon. I don't want to see it in canon.
In fact - I'm Swiss - I don't care about shipping at all."
Surely you care about shipping to some degree, or you wouldn't have written the fic and you wouldn't have joined the discusion, eh?
I don't really think that it's 'depraved' necessarily, but just against normal ideals. It's OK with me if others want to write such fics, I don't think that they pose any irreparable harm to those who read them, but I also think that it's a shame that such high literature can lead to such low fan response. I would hope that just reading the Harry Potter books would inspire something greater than erotic fantasy-romance novels. That's just not in keeping with the sophistication set forth by canon.
The Leaky Cauldron plugs the result of a HP fandom survey. The survey also asked the question: Do you think any romantic relationships will develop in the next two books? If so, between whom? (You can pick more than one answer, but only one with each character!)
Out of the 4609 people, who answered this question, 3647 voted Ron/Hermione.
Wank ensues in TLC comments section.
I'm rather dismayed that so many idiots complained about the lack of homosexual relationships. I've nothing against gay people (I'm related to one) but there's no need to read your fantasies into something that isn't there. Like the sad, sad people who want a relationship between Hermione and Draco. I do find it extremely interesting, however, that the Herm/Ron relationship is being accelerated in the films. In CoS we had the non-hug, and in PoA, we have the hand-holding. I say interesting, as JK has final approval over certain plot elements, and for her to allow this means a hell of a lot in my book..
WQM on Percy/Ginny: I went to the Live Journal poll out of curiousity. Someone said they ship Percy and Ginny. That's just sick. Love is not Percy snogging his little sister. What's wrong with people!?
To which the site's uber-editor Melissa A. replies with: WQM, I'm with you. Other people I know have been slammed (ridiculously so) for saying it, but I too think such pairings are disgusting and contradictory to the tone of JKR's books. It makes me ill and sad when they're represented by fans as anything other than a completely impossible turn on canon.
Ari adds her two cents on incest and gets the following response:
#1: "Weasleycest"!!??
It took me a couple of seconds to realize what this meant. Then it dawned on me this actually was a reference to fanfics featuring incestuous relations involving Ginny Weasley and any one of her brothers.
Also equally repulsive were some fanfics I once came across featuring an incestuous relationship involving Lucius Malfoy and his son, Draco.
When will it ever occur to some people that incest is not a form of hetero- or homo- eroticism?
As Lilly indicated: "~ even the merest thought about about suggestion about a relationship between siblings is depraved, and has no place in the HP universe. Not even in jest."
And as Melissa also pointed out: "it's my opinion that it's wrong, and that such such pairings are disgusting and contradictory to the tone of JKR's books. It makes me ill and sad when they're represented by fans as anything other than a completely impossible turn on canon."
Amen Lilly and Melissa. I couldn't have said it better myself. You speak for most of us.
Commenter #2: Frankly, incest is just ... well, I'm not supposed to say anything if I can't say anything at all. I have two older half-siblings who I didn't grow up with. I adore my older sister and my brother is an absolute prince. I would never EVER think about having any kind of relationship like that with either them. Your family are the people you should be able to trust. Sadly, this is not the case in all families.
My best friend has been molested by her uncle and also her step-brother. When she told her family what happened, they just pretended it had never occured and never spoke of it again. They didn't defend her or protect her. Because of all this, she's moved to Canada with me to get away from her family. She doesn't trust them any more.
This is what incest and pretending it's "OK" does to people. She has horrible self esteem and stress issues. She feels like she can't trust anyone.
Commenter #3: Ari commented: "I've written Ginny/Ron. I don't think it was depraved to do so. I do not expect to see it canon. I don't want to see it in canon.
In fact - I'm Swiss - I don't care about shipping at all."
Surely you care about shipping to some degree, or you wouldn't have written the fic and you wouldn't have joined the discusion, eh?
I don't really think that it's 'depraved' necessarily, but just against normal ideals. It's OK with me if others want to write such fics, I don't think that they pose any irreparable harm to those who read them, but I also think that it's a shame that such high literature can lead to such low fan response. I would hope that just reading the Harry Potter books would inspire something greater than erotic fantasy-romance novels. That's just not in keeping with the sophistication set forth by canon.
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