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Dee ([info]deeablo) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-03-26 12:47:00


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The quack goes on...
Now that Angel is wrapping up, everyone's favorite Buffy-n-Angel-4evah supporters—Ducks and her ducklings—continue to hope against hope that their couple will be reunited by the end of the Buffy the Vampire Slayer spin-off, regardless of recent casting news and the fact that Angel and Buffy are a fictional couple that has been over for going on five years now.

Anyway, infighting and "hate mail" forced one longtime moderator to leave the Babble Board (BB). What caused this rift? Debate over how many claddagh rings should be used in the next B/A ad in Variety? What kind of cookies to send to the Mutant Enemy office?

Nope. An advertisement in support of David Boreanaz... on another site!

That's right. Apparently someone posted information on the BB about a possible Boreanaz ad being created by another site, and some Ducklings went over to the site to check it out. More than a few got their widdle feewings huwrt. According to Ducks' moderator Margot Le Faye:
Unfortunately, when we got there, we found a torrent of negative, and to be frank, even slanderous, mud being slung at our own efforts both in the SMG thank you ad organized on this board and for the efforts many individual babblers (in concert with fans from all over the net) are making in the savingangel campaign, a completely neutral, ship-free campaign.
I understand that not every single Stranger was involved in throwing the mud. I truly appreciate the reasoned and thoughtful posts in our defence. But, the sheer number of negative posts, the seeming disinterest of the moderators in reining any of the poison in, or even in checking with our own mods to get the facts, led us to suggest to our people that they not participate in this particular effort. The thread in which the information had orginaly been posted deteriorated and was deleted by our administrator. I have no intention of allowing that to happen, again."

Tempers were SO hot that Dawny, a BB mod, up and quit.

Dawny
(3/20/04 7:34 pm)
After last night, I cannot be a part of this board. At all. I want nothing to do with it. I received hate mail after hate mail after hate mail. All over the stupid DB ad thread. All because I posted something that I thought you guys may want to participate in.
===

There's more along the same ilk (including "some quotes and paraphrases") from secret chats, and then the moderator adds: "I actually could go on and on but I don't really have the energy. I have to be honest though. I've never been so hurt or angry in my life. You wonder why the BB is cast into negative light so often? Think about it. Because ALL of the hate mail I got last night were from members of THIS board and/or B/Aers. ALL of it."

But what I find most amusing about this "saying goodbye" thread is the fact that remaining moderators are heavily editing posts. Morgan explains, "I'm going through this thread and deleting or editing anything that is not a respectful farewell to Dawn, or a moderators post. Again, this means some things that were not inappropriate will be deleted in the name of keeping this thread on track, so don't be offended if you find yourself edited or deleted." Which leads to posts like this:

cherylforba
(3/20/04 11:14 pm)
Dawny,
Sorry that you feel you have to leave the BB.
{deleted by mod}
I can not imagine someone so ignorant to send you hate mail, I can't even imagine what would cause such a thing.
On another note their has been no cheering with the news that you are leaving, quite the opposite is happening.
Most are looking around wondering what has happened NOW. It seems more and more the accusations fly.
{deleted by mod}I believe someone has lied to you which calls into question THEIR motivations, like everyone else I wish you well and am thankful for the time you put in to keep this board going.
Cheryl
Edited at my discretion.
Edited by: Margot Le Faye at: 3/21/04 1:24 pm
===

Also? "[T]his is fair warning. I have been sick since September. I may need surgery. I have had a serious Upper Respiratory Infection for six weeks and I am miserable. I am NOT in a particularly tolerant mood, and the crap being flung at me for my work in the campaigns isn't exactly sweetening my temper."

And of course, we have those on the Board who are in a league of their own.

SHAWNGF
(3/23/04 7:00 pm)
Our reservations are not petty and should not be berated and asked to be dismissed.
I am more content with giving to a non-shipper ad or one created by our incredible design team. That's my level of comfort. And when it's my money, I need trust first.
That's not petty.
===

Background on the Ducks can be found here.


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Duck Wank!
[info]rubytramp
2004-03-26 09:12 pm UTC (link)
Yay! I was waiting for stuff like this to start happening. I adore Duck Wank.

My favorite wanks:

You need to take care of yourself and your son better than what you are.

And btw, this place WAS a home to me...up till last night. It wasn't JUST yours. I considered it mine too.

And the bestest:

We know you're not really a non-shipper. You're a damn C/A spy.

*blink* Fandoms now have spies from within their own fandoms no less? Quick call Homeland Security!

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Re: Duck Wank!
[info]munchkinott
2004-03-26 09:49 pm UTC (link)
*blink* Fandoms now have spies from within their own fandoms no less? Quick call Homeland Security!

It's Al Quackeda!

Sorry, that was... Bad of me.

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Re: Duck Wank! - [info]sagralisse, 2004-03-26 09:53 pm UTC
Re: Duck Wank! - [info]munchkinott, 2004-03-26 10:15 pm UTC
Re: Duck Wank! - [info]sagralisse, 2004-03-26 10:32 pm UTC
Re: Duck Wank! - [info]munchkinott, 2004-03-27 01:20 am UTC
Re: Duck Wank! - [info]sagralisse, 2004-03-27 06:15 am UTC
Re: Duck Wank! - [info]livii, 2004-03-27 01:33 am UTC
Re: Duck Wank! - [info]munchkinott, 2004-03-27 01:53 am UTC
Re: Duck Wank!
[info]amakath
2004-03-27 09:11 am UTC (link)
We know you're not really a non-shipper. You're a damn C/A spy.

Bwa ha ha ha!

Oh, that is precious.

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Re: Duck Wank!
[info]panthea
2004-03-27 05:17 pm UTC (link)
*blink* Fandoms now have spies from within their own fandoms no less? Quick call Homeland Security!

Sadly, it's not a new thing. During the ever-raging Ray vs. Ray debates in Due South fandom, a RayK-focused list I was on was, ehm, "infiltrated" by RayV fans who would forward "suspicious" missives on to the woman who ran the Hexwood archive (the main fanfic archive), who was an anti-RayK person herself. Thus a series of idle half-serious musings (on a private list, mind) about the preponderance of RayV pictures on the archive, compared to the number of RayK pics, led to the archivist taking down the site for a few days in a huff until everyone learned how to play nice again.

The Ray Wars were bloody, man. I only wish F_W had been around then, at least so I could've had someplace to vent.

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Re: Duck Wank! - [info]mariagoner, 2004-03-27 09:40 pm UTC
Re: Duck Wank! - [info]janegraddell, 2004-03-28 04:26 am UTC
Re: Duck Wank! - [info]panthea, 2004-03-28 04:41 am UTC
Re: Duck Wank! - [info]janegraddell, 2004-03-28 07:00 am UTC
Re: Duck Wank! - [info]phosfate, 2004-03-29 07:42 pm UTC
Re: Duck Wank! - [info]panthea, 2004-03-30 03:14 am UTC

[info]judyhazeleyes
2004-03-26 09:54 pm UTC (link)
And TMI strikes again -

"I have been sick since September. I may need surgery. I have had a serious Upper Respiratory Infection for six weeks and I am miserable."

Why? Why do people say things like this? I see it so often, and yet it never fails to amuse and confound me. I don't care if you're in the final stages of leprosy and your fingers are being held on by duct tape so that you can still type - if you're angry, be angry. Sure. Fine. But don't bitchslap 99% of the people in your community/message board/what have you, and then come out demanding sympathy. It's a mod's right to bitchslap when things are going downhill. Wear the bitchslap badge with pride!

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[info]livii
2004-03-27 01:36 am UTC (link)
Is there a law about that? Because honestly, I don't fucking care, honey.

Also notable, in a similar vein, is that on the last page of the Dawny thread, we find out Dawny just had a baby. So she was mucho pregnant at the time this went down. I must say, kudos for not trying to pull that card, at least.

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(Anonymous)
2004-03-26 09:56 pm UTC (link)
we found a torrent of negative, and to be frank, even slanderous, mud being slung at our own efforts

as opposed to, what, positive and complimentary mud?

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[info]judyhazeleyes
2004-03-26 09:59 pm UTC (link)
Er... maybe that Dead Sea mud that they use at fancy spas or something?

When life throws you mud, take a mud bath!

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[info]maryavatar
2004-03-26 11:35 pm UTC (link)
Ah, people who think their way is the only sensible way. They're even better when they turn on people on their own side for not being drones of The One Truth.

So glad my only involvement in the Buffy fandom is writing Andrew slash :)

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[info]crickets
2004-03-26 11:56 pm UTC (link)
And I could find this Andrew slash- where?

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(no subject) - [info]wickeprincess3, 2004-03-26 11:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]maryavatar, 2004-03-27 12:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]crickets, 2004-03-27 12:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]maryavatar, 2004-03-27 01:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]crickets, 2004-03-27 12:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladysorka, 2004-03-27 01:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]marginalsanity, 2004-03-27 03:03 am UTC

[info]wankprophet
2004-03-27 12:27 am UTC (link)
::points at icon and looks hopeful:: You wouldn't happen to have one of these lying around in story form, would you? ::

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(no subject) - [info]maryavatar, 2004-03-27 12:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankprophet, 2004-03-27 02:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]doyle, 2004-03-27 02:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]maryavatar, 2004-03-27 05:47 pm UTC
::wide-eyed fanboying of Darkslash:: - [info]wankprophet, 2004-03-27 06:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]doyle, 2004-03-27 02:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankprophet, 2004-03-27 02:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]livii, 2004-03-27 02:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2004-03-27 04:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]necronomist, 2004-03-27 08:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]wankprophet, 2004-03-27 09:50 am UTC

[info]ingrid
2004-03-27 12:55 am UTC (link)
Line by line mod deletions?

Whoa, that's wanky.

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[info]livii
2004-03-27 01:41 am UTC (link)
Pretty amazing wank. It's always doubly sweet when it's B/A, who make me laugh my ass off. I mean, there's nothing wrong with liking a ship, but at some point, the ads might be taking it a touch far, especially since Buffy and Angel were a whiny, self-involved couple five years ago. Dudes.

This was my first initiation with that board, as well. Bloody hell - the signatures! I won't go to boards that let you have big siggies like that. There was one poster, end of page 3, who had five flashing graphics, as well as two flashing avatars. Just - get the fuck over yourself, already.

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[info]mirabellawotr
2004-03-27 02:24 am UTC (link)
Just as a random bit of drive-by bitchery, what is with boards like that, anyway? Who the hell can possibly want to have to wade through 25-line, graphics-infested sigs like Stanley machete-ing his way through the jungle in search of Livingstone, just to get to four or five lines of content that at least six times out of ten can be summed up as "OMGWTFLOL!!!!"?

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(Anonymous)
2004-03-27 03:07 am UTC (link)
The part in cherylforba's post that was deleted by the mod?

It said that Dawny should feel lucky that all she got was hate mail. Because the ducks get hate posts! And that is just so much worse! [gasps!]

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[info]iamtheenemy
2004-03-27 07:38 am UTC (link)
All this wank, blah blah. The show's fucking OVER. Buffy's cookie dough, let her bake for God's sake. I totally want Buffy to chill in Europe a while, and then hook up with some random, normal guy, unaffected by any of their uber-drama--like Riley before we found out he was in the Initiative--just to PISS both sides of this stupid debate off. I love Buffy more than...a lot of things, quite honestly, but good Lord, RELAX people. Angel and Spike haven't seen Buffy in a year, wherein she's lived in another country and and proved that she isn't particularly fond of either man. Cordelia is dead. She's DEAD. Get over it. So are Tara and Anya and Jenny Calendar. Oz is gone, and Riley's married, ok? No one gets what they want in Joss-land. Call it a draw and move on.

Steph

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[info]iczer6
2004-03-27 08:59 am UTC (link)
Cordelia is dead. She's DEAD. Get over it.

Really?

Whoo hoo!

[Sorry but while I loved SnarkyHighschoolbitch!Cordy I could really do without Saint Cordelia or Oedipus!Cordy.]

But hey I'd like to have Buffy realize she's a lesbian and run off and have sex with Faith and Anya.


Icz

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(no subject) - [info]wankprophet, 2004-03-27 09:53 am UTC

[info]rhi_silverflame
2004-03-27 06:49 pm UTC (link)
I totally want Buffy to chill in Europe a while, and then hook up with some random, normal guy, unaffected by any of their uber-drama--like Riley before we found out he was in the Initiative--just to PISS both sides of this stupid debate off.

Oh, yes please.

No one gets what they want in Joss-land.

Which you'd think certain so-called "die-hard fans" would have, oh, NOTICED by now after seven seasons of Buffy and five of Angel? HP and LOTR may have more frequent and spectacular wanks, but there's nothing like Jossverse fandom when it comes to "nonono I REFUSE to get over it!" wankery.

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(Anonymous)
2004-03-27 04:37 pm UTC (link)
While dissention in the ranks wank is always fun, I think I'm even more amused by their steadfast belief that SMG *is* coming, dammit (http://pub165.ezboard.com/ftheducksversefrm1.showMessageRange?topicID=3332.topic&start=6341&stop=6360). Smidge will be there! She's not gonna betray the Immortal Lovers! And no matter how many articles, quotes from Joss...the Ducks know the *real* truth!

From SHAWNGF..."Actually I'm amused to no end to watch the other shippers jump with delight over this erroneous bit of news...I guess that tells the tale eh? They realized they were screwed up a creek if Buffy returned..

Well guess what...they still are."

Ah yes...the amusement of watching those crazy fans who are actually naive enough to believe Joss, TV Guide, CNN, and Entertainment Weekly, rather than the one true voice of B/A 4-Eva!!11! They'll all be sorry they doubted!

From Blade The Spike Killer (hee!)..."Just sit back and enjoy the 19th. May 19th is going to have TONS to offer. We'll be getting the wildfeed, BA togetherness galore... and choking on their own bile implosions all over the 'net."

Damn, that's some heavy duty denial over there. Hope someone's planning on monitoring the board after the finale airs with no SMG. I'm envisioning it becoming a very scary place.

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[info]spikewriter
2004-03-28 03:31 pm UTC (link)
Damn, that's some heavy duty denial over there.

Hmmm, I'd actually use the word "delusional" instead of "denial." But then, that's me.

And yes, there are definitely people who'll be monitoring the board after the finale, looking for some EDH (exploding Duck Heads).

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(no subject) - [info]amakath, 2004-03-28 11:54 pm UTC

[info]dkellergrl
2004-03-29 06:53 pm UTC (link)
Damn, that's some heavy duty denial over there. Hope someone's planning on monitoring the board after the finale airs with no SMG. I'm envisioning it becoming a very scary place.

Well,

That's one of the reasons why I'm a lurker on those boards. I definitely envision the day after the series ends and HUNDREDS of posts about how SMG "betrayed" her fans by not appearing for the last episode, because THEY need "closure".

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[info]misswindy
2004-03-27 11:25 pm UTC (link)
iconiconicon<333333333

That is all.

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[info]spikewriter
2004-03-28 03:32 pm UTC (link)
And I love your icon, btw.

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Bullocks
(Anonymous)
2004-03-28 04:47 am UTC (link)
Is it wrong that I'm laughing at their pain? Bout time those ducks dissented. Really, the C/Aers were never hung up on their ship to that degree. Grow up already.

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Re: Bullocks
[info]crickets
2004-03-28 05:42 am UTC (link)
GAH! Attention all Buffy/Angel fans & fic writers:

Bollocks - British slang for testicles; the equivalent American slang would be balls. Also slang for nonsense or bullshit, as in, "what a load of bollocks!"

Also bollix - to botch or ruin.

A bullock is an ox or steer. Bullocks, capitalized, is the name of a (defunct) American department store.

*squeakysqueaky* cleanup

This dictionary quickie has been a mini-wank service of Splooge, International. Thank you and play through.

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