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Elanor Durall (![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small} elanor_durall) wrote in ![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/community.gif){kind=small} fandom_wank,@ 2004-03-29 01:28:00 |
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Elitist Archives and Those Mean Fandom Bitches
This is a fairly large wank, and I'll admit that I skimmed most of it. As far as I can tell, it all starts when Maeglinyedi makes a post about elitist archives.
Electriciandroid rants (and then pimps it for sympathy points). It is not well recieved by Gmth.
"The piece you wrote evoked a strong response because of the subject matter, not necessarily because you've "arrived" in the fandom. I'm not saying you haven't, mind; I don't keep that close an eye on what's going on with your fics. But getting three or four dozen comments on a fic (which is really all you ended up with, since the bulk of the remaining comments were discussions with those who left feedback) doesn't really mean much when the piece is as edgy as that one. It just means you managed to shock a bunch of us out of our usual porn daze."
Electriciandroid then proceeds towhine post in her personal journal about the incident, and recieves much ego-stroking.
"Okay - I am having an awful night, have been insulted and condescended too. About the feedback I receive and my status within the fandom. I can deal with the reality - I am not a BNF - nor do I wish to be one. However I cannot deal with flagrant insults both to me and my reviewers well. I've said what I have to say to the person concerned, and that is the end of my part in the discussion - flames and trolls on this topic will be ignored and deleted if I can."
And then Gmth posts in her personal journal.
"I hate it when people say "I'm drunk," or "I'm having a bad day," and that's supposed to excuse their temper tantrums.
I hate the fact that any time I have a strong opinion about something -- and dare to express it -- somehow or another I'm using my "BNF status" (and when exactly did that happen, anyway?) to look down on others and be insulting and condescending.
I *really* hate it when people who have no idea what actually happened automatically assume that the person on the other side of the argument is stupid, sad, an asshole, a bitch, or any other number of insults. Just remember, folks, chances are good that the person you are talking about is on *your* flist, too."
ETA Sorry about the icon, folks. It was a dumb thing to post, so I replaced it.
ETA2K Little_needle says (amongst other things): And so here I still stand; angry, tired, fed-up, ready to make a point and ready to point my ever-wanky finger and say to our ever-present and beloved Fandom Police. People are tired, waiting for it to end. Back the fuck off before too many people tire of you. Wank me, hurt me, ignore me -- laugh, even. Do what-ever the fuck you want. But back the fuck away from people who do not fucking deserve you and your little 'fists of rage'. Once upon a time you thought you smelled blood, and now I am the one who smells blood. I (and I'm sure many other's) will see it stop. You do not own fandom. You did not piss a circle around it. You will not control it. Back the fuck off and stay away.
This is a fairly large wank, and I'll admit that I skimmed most of it. As far as I can tell, it all starts when Maeglinyedi makes a post about elitist archives.
Electriciandroid rants (and then pimps it for sympathy points). It is not well recieved by Gmth.
"The piece you wrote evoked a strong response because of the subject matter, not necessarily because you've "arrived" in the fandom. I'm not saying you haven't, mind; I don't keep that close an eye on what's going on with your fics. But getting three or four dozen comments on a fic (which is really all you ended up with, since the bulk of the remaining comments were discussions with those who left feedback) doesn't really mean much when the piece is as edgy as that one. It just means you managed to shock a bunch of us out of our usual porn daze."
Electriciandroid then proceeds to
"Okay - I am having an awful night, have been insulted and condescended too. About the feedback I receive and my status within the fandom. I can deal with the reality - I am not a BNF - nor do I wish to be one. However I cannot deal with flagrant insults both to me and my reviewers well. I've said what I have to say to the person concerned, and that is the end of my part in the discussion - flames and trolls on this topic will be ignored and deleted if I can."
And then Gmth posts in her personal journal.
"I hate it when people say "I'm drunk," or "I'm having a bad day," and that's supposed to excuse their temper tantrums.
I hate the fact that any time I have a strong opinion about something -- and dare to express it -- somehow or another I'm using my "BNF status" (and when exactly did that happen, anyway?) to look down on others and be insulting and condescending.
I *really* hate it when people who have no idea what actually happened automatically assume that the person on the other side of the argument is stupid, sad, an asshole, a bitch, or any other number of insults. Just remember, folks, chances are good that the person you are talking about is on *your* flist, too."
ETA Sorry about the icon, folks. It was a dumb thing to post, so I replaced it.
ETA2K Little_needle says (amongst other things): And so here I still stand; angry, tired, fed-up, ready to make a point and ready to point my ever-wanky finger and say to our ever-present and beloved Fandom Police. People are tired, waiting for it to end. Back the fuck off before too many people tire of you. Wank me, hurt me, ignore me -- laugh, even. Do what-ever the fuck you want. But back the fuck away from people who do not fucking deserve you and your little 'fists of rage'. Once upon a time you thought you smelled blood, and now I am the one who smells blood. I (and I'm sure many other's) will see it stop. You do not own fandom. You did not piss a circle around it. You will not control it. Back the fuck off and stay away.
