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	(Anonymous) 2004-04-02 03:34 pm UTC (link)
	I don't know...yeah, that girl doesn't get it, but I'm wondering if she's capable of getting it. Something seems a little off with her and the people responding to her seem a little relentless, like they're enjoying slapping her around. Seems more pathetic all the way around than wanky, to be honest. Gloaming (longtime lurker) (Reply to this)

	ingrid 2004-04-02 03:43 pm UTC (link)
	Pshaw. What's she complaining about? I know who Erin Blair is ... The most famous XF badfic writer ever. (Maybe after Hepstation (sp?) And I've been out of the fandom for years. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	tintin 2004-04-02 04:24 pm UTC (link)
	Same here. You know a writer is bad when you still remember her name 5 years later. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sistermagpie 2004-04-02 08:25 pm UTC (link)
	Exactly. If there's one thing not to worry about here, it's name recognition. (Of course, she was also known for receiving psychic messages from Gillian Anderson as I recall...) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	ashenmote 2004-04-02 03:44 pm UTC (link)
	A long time ago, people said to me: "Erin, you should post more often. We want to know about you." And now people are telling me to hardly post at all. I'm just so confused. That is confusing how? This is more on the really, really sad side of mild wankiness. I feel like going for a walk in the sunshine now. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	sagralisse 2004-04-02 06:49 pm UTC (link)
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	xturtle 2004-04-02 04:14 pm UTC (link)
	O_O She's still around? I left that fandom years age -- and she was there long before me. And one of the reasons I learned to love lurking. CJ (Reply to this)

	phosfate 2004-04-02 04:26 pm UTC (link)
	What I learned during the Spookys that I don't feel that I did enough PR. I feel that my stories aren't being read because I have left the fanfic community for two years. That's probably it, yeah. Well that, and people know how to use their delete keys. (Reply to this)

I'm sorry

(Anonymous)
2004-04-02 04:29 pm UTC (link)

but are people aware that this young woman is developmentally disabled?

I understand that people get frustrated with Erin because she is, to say the least, dogged in her determination to become a BNF. However, I really don't see what the big deal is. If you don't like her stuff, don't read it. If you find her posts annoying, don't respond. And for God's sake, don't make fun of her. She's clearly incapable of learning. So, what the hell is the point?

I know, I know, I'm wanking. But, I know that we don't wank underage people at this board. I'm kinda thinking the same thing should apply to someone who has admitted that she is developmentally disabled.

Not cool at all.

Yet Another Long-time Lurker

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	Re: I'm sorry rubytramp 2004-04-02 04:41 pm UTC (link)
	When and where did she admit she was develmentally disabled? Sorry, I must have missed that one. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: I'm sorry (Anonymous) 2004-04-02 05:04 pm UTC (link)
	She has discussed her limitations several times in many, many, many threads at the Haven. (This is, after all, Erin Blair.) She has also discussed her disabilities in numerous other fora over the years. It is not a secret. YALTL (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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2004-04-02 06:53 pm UTC (link)

I may not be speaking for the community here when I say- well, big fucking deal. A lot of people have developmental disabilities. A lot of those people also turn out brilliant. Everyone has their things to overcome. And, thus, it is quite morally acceptable to wank someone for being a dense idiot who can't shut up.

Sorry about that, I'm running a mild fever and don't like seeing the comments clogged up with things that aren't funny.

-Vee-sempai

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	Re: I'm sorry rubytramp 2004-04-02 06:57 pm UTC (link)
	You are speaking for me - now I'm sorry I posted this in the first place? Should I deleate this? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	Re: I'm sorry sorchar 2004-04-03 12:46 pm UTC (link)
	If she's incapable of learning, how the fuck is she using a computer? Shouldn't she still be drawing on the walls with crayons? (Reply to this)(Parent)

wankprophet
2004-04-02 07:04 pm UTC (link)

Meh. For once, I'll turn off the snark here and say that I'm not seeing what's so bad. Admittedly, I haven't a clue who Erin Blair is, and, not being a fanfic writer, I have no idea what the dynamic of theses sorts of boards is, but she's being quite polite here. Of course, it could be disingenuousness, but it would be polite disingenuousness. I understand the other posters' exasperation, assuming that she's as bad as they claim, but am not the type to just take their word for it, especially given that several of them seem to take great pleasure in lecturing her on her undesirability in oh-so-polite tones. Give it up, honey -- you're not fooling anyone.

Personally, I think the discussion over exactly how and when one can talk about one's fanfic is a tad wankier -- I feel like I've stumbled on some Victorian-era Rules of Order with a bunch of people muttering, sotto voce, "How very tiresomely lower-class of her. So, my dear Lady Muldertehroxxors, shall we adjourn to the parlor and discuss Mulder/Cigarette-Smoking-Man slash over a winsome port I recently acquired from my man in the Belgian Congo?"

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	sagralisse 2004-04-02 07:16 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, the whole hostile-yet-polite dynamic is funnier than anything Erin's doing. Notice that they start off sort of mild, and when that doesn't cause any fireworks they keep turning up the heat. (Reply to this)(Parent)

facewithamask
2004-04-02 07:23 pm UTC (link)

Man, you hit that right on the head. That's exactly how it sounds. And that politeness from the "corrective" posters isn't fooling anyone. They're beating the piss out of her and having a great laugh at the same time.

"Developmentally disabled" or not, she said she was sorry and promised not to do it again. I'm not sure what else she should do. Having undergone a thorough ~~ass-kicking~~ public ridicule, I think she's paid for her real and/or imagined transgressions in spades.

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	cleolinda 2004-04-02 07:28 pm UTC (link)
	"Pish-posh, Mrs. Sculder4evar, my nephew has sent over a dear little madeira I believe you will find to be entirely more suitable to après-dîner discussions of slashfic." (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	For somebody who knows none of the Deep Background (Anonymous) 2004-04-02 08:35 pm UTC (link)
	{/gratuitous X-Files reference}, you certainly got it in one. YALTL (Reply to this)(Parent)

esseilte
2004-04-02 07:48 pm UTC (link)

The thing that's making me shudder here is that I remember Erin from years ago on various Les Mis/Miss Saigon boards. Usually getting incredibly obsessed over Lea Salonga...for anyone who cares, a Google search using the two names together would be likely to dredge up more wank than you could shake a stick at.

I don't think the thread is particularly bad, actually - I love the comparison to Miss Bates - and lord knows I've seen far worse. Unfortunately, I remember the wank on rec.arts.theatre.musicals and various other places way too well to be objective.

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	rubytramp 2004-04-02 08:04 pm UTC (link)
	I just did that google search and look what I found. And then there is this. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	nostalgia 2004-04-02 08:04 pm UTC (link)
	Well, I thought it was a stupendous wank and thank you for allowing us this close-up of fandom bukake at it's best. "Gosh, am I too concerned with my own fic? But it are so good! Tell me you love me! Tell me I am a BNF!" ded from teh wank (Reply to this)

	hj1 2004-04-02 08:23 pm UTC (link)
	This quote from the thread isn't wanky, but I did find it highly amusing: In my opinion, the best example of an author who does no self (or other) promoting really, is Prufrock's Love. I think I am in good company saying that she/he is a terrific writer who's work everyone knows and respects. Oh no, dear Pru has no marketing strategy whatsoever. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	cassiovega 2004-04-03 03:05 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, 'cause nobody likes a mysterious figure in the shadows who cannot be reached with feedback. How uninteresting. Pru's the Queen of successful marketing, whether she meant to be so or not. XF wank is so cute to me now that I've stopped being semi-involved. LOL (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sorchar 2004-04-03 12:42 pm UTC (link)
	I still point people to one of her fics as a shining example of the godawful XF:FTF crap that was churned out thanks to that nauseating song from Titanic. (Reply to this)