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	psychofangirl 2004-04-07 10:39 pm UTC (link)
	The thing is, the poll didn't ask if you were Christian, it asked if you were religious. I wouldn't be surprised if the 70% DID have Christians among them. I also wouldn't be surprised if the 30% included other religions. Heh. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	judyhazeleyes 2004-04-07 10:45 pm UTC (link)
	that's why i didn't understand why people thought the poll should be more specific about which religion a person subscribed to - if such a generic poll inspired wank, imagine if people had been asked to specify their religions! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	squib 2004-04-08 04:32 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, I agree. On a side note, what is with this assumption that "religious"=Christian? I see this everywhere all of a sudden. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	vassilissa 2004-04-08 04:57 am UTC (link)
	Not a new thing. Check out the Dewey Decimal System. 200-299 is religion. Of that, 290-299 is non-Christian religion. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	*eyes following the bouncy icon* lemone 2004-04-08 06:32 am UTC (link)
	Your icon has hypnotised me. Can't...look...away. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	rann 2004-04-08 07:35 pm UTC (link)
	That seems to be as much a belief among the Christian branches of religion as it is among the non-Christian... y'know, like how marriage is inherently the domain of the Christian/Catholic church, apparently. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	mydemand 2004-04-10 10:35 am UTC (link)
	Someone else notices it too! I always see anti-religion wanks that are just about Christians alone, and I'm like "Christianity isn't the only religion out there, y'know..." (Reply to this)(Parent)

	gal_montag 2004-04-07 10:43 pm UTC (link)
	There a lot of non-English speakers at DeviantART? Because, wow, a lot of mangulated English over there. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	theartema 2004-04-07 10:48 pm UTC (link)
	It especially burnses when they're part of the same belief system as you. Yet another case of 'Stop being on my side, you're making my side look stupid'. I really tend to argue more with my fellow Christians. They're just so... stupid sometimes. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	fuzzytowers 2004-04-07 11:11 pm UTC (link)
	I'm agnostic/atheist and I am the same way with hard-core atheists. They make my head hurt. Smarter guy than me summed it up: "Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd." --Voltaire (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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piggelin
2004-04-07 10:59 pm UTC (link)
I love religion/God/Jesus/bible/muffins-polls.

In Sweden it's rare to believe in God and religious people are generally looked upon as strange. But then again, we're a country of heathens. 3.3% of the population goes to church for Sunday Mass. It's interesting to see how other countries "do it". :)
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smo
2004-04-07 11:49 pm UTC (link)
France was the same way. The unofficial religion there is Catholic in Name Only. My host family identified themselves as Catholic, and my host brother had been confirmed, but I must have blinked the day they went to church, because I totally missed it. I think it's because back before the revolution, there was no separation between church and state, and the fact that both were corrupt fostered much anti-religious sentiment (as well as anti-aristocratic).

For that matter, from what I've seen of Europe, it's pretty much non-religious across the board. Guess it's because all the religious nuts came over here. :)
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delfeus
2004-04-08 12:22 am UTC (link)
Actually, according to a research I saw, Finland had 4% and Sweden bit more, maybe 5%... of course it may be that the research you've seen was newer, religions are going down here... doesn't matter anyway, the important thing is that Scandinavia was at bottom in pretty much all the religious charts. :D Go us!

[I had a course called "Survey of North America" and on the lecture about religions the teacher showed lots of charts that compared countries. 44% of adult Americans go to church at least once a week. O_o]
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xturtle
2004-04-07 11:06 pm UTC (link)
I hate when they make that a yes or no question. I have spiritual belief in a great whatever that may or may not reside high atop the thing (I watch too much West Wing). I don't follow a religion because I don't like the idea of requiring the folks you call "community" to believe the same thing about who brought us into the world and where they'll put us when we're dust. So I end up checking "no" and looking like a godless heathen, which in turn causes christians who think that theirs is the only religion (note: this is a specific type of christian) to have high blood pressure.

I'm all about keeping people healthy. The box marked "other" is my friend.
CJ,
who needs to get more icons so that she stops overusing this one.
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theartema
2004-04-07 11:17 pm UTC (link)
That icon is a thing of beauty.

Now I want one. With a picture of the Pope though, just so I could be completely damned.
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sagralisse
2004-04-08 05:26 pm UTC (link)
So I end up checking "no" and looking like a godless heathen, which in turn causes christians who think that theirs is the only religion (note: this is a specific type of christian) to have high blood pressure.

I was running into this problem some, being in such a Christian community. At some point I decided I didn't like being a generic godless heathen and that surely somebody had figured out a religion that would do.

In researching I found a Buddhist sermon that basically said Stop asking me about the existance of God and the soul and all that. Worrying about all that unanswerable stuff interferes with your spiritual growth. Viola! My search was over.

Well-meaning fundies fret about you if you're a godless heathen, but if you say "I'm a Buddhist" most of them feel like they have to be tolerant. It's sort of cheating, but I never claimed to be a good Buddhist.
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chaobell
2004-04-07 11:52 pm UTC (link)
I've found that looking for wank at DevArt is a lot like looking for a penny at the Denver Mint.
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spacefille
2004-04-08 12:01 am UTC (link)
There is so much "wank" there it nearly crashed my computer.

Wow... that's a very vague question.
What the heck do they mean about "Religious"? I religiously watch my favorite TV show every week... I religiously read this site. I still believe in A God... does this mean I'm religious?

"Convert the world" Christians piss me off. *resists urge to throw self into mess to tell off some certain people*
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Lies, damned lies, and statistics.
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2004-04-08 12:36 am UTC (link)
More than half the world follows a religion, and the second biggest group are "Christians." I'm sure a much smaller section would call themselves "religious."

Problem with any pole is it is biased by how you word it, where you put it, whether the results are public, and how it gets out. On some face-to-face polls, the sex, race, social acceptability of an honest answer, and enthusiasm of the poller can wildly change the result.

For instance, when going door to door and asking what magazines the family reads, more people will say "Popular Mechanics" than actual issues of "Popular Mechanics" sold. If you ask to recycle magazines, you're more likely to get the truth (and a few cosmos and playboys).

So, we can say that reasonably affluent english-speaking people ages 11-22, with artistic interests, moderate computer knowledge, and access to that website are only 30% "religious" (a term whose definition changes person to person). That's not a great representation of any population but the people who took it.
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esk
2004-04-08 12:56 am UTC (link)
uhh...anyone else having a problem actually *seeing* the wank? i can't get it to display anything more than the first page of 25 comments.
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truculent
2004-04-08 01:14 am UTC (link)
Same here.
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2004-04-08 01:29 am UTC (link)
What always gets me in these discussions is the people who react with pity when I say I'm heathen, or tell me I'm "lost" and will someday, theoretically, be "found." Does the phrase, "I don't think so," ring a bell? Sheesh... as if Loki or Odin would let me stay lost for long (unless they were amused by my struggling and I was being lame).

There is a rant in their... an entirely sploogy, annoyed rant... and I have the quotes to trigger it... but I'm to tired. Rant later. *yawn*
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2004-04-08 03:54 am UTC (link)
I think what bugs me about that is the presumption on their part that they're in any position to "save" anyone, let alone you. Whatever happened to judging not lest ye be judged yourself?
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iczer6
2004-04-08 08:57 am UTC (link)
Sheesh... as if Loki or Odin would let me stay lost for long (unless they were amused by my struggling and I was being lame).

I think Ulysses would have some things to say about being 'lost'.

[Hey at least he got some sorceress poon outta it.]

Icz
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marginalsanity
2004-04-11 07:58 am UTC (link)
So...much...verse spouting...

*flail*
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