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Majinkarp ([info]majinkarp) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-04-08 12:01:00


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Current mood:Caffeinated
Entry tags:anime/manga, boo hoo, fanfic, mary sues, persecution

It was inevitable...PMK wank
Listen, my friends, to the tale of one Krissie Yukari, a member of the Peace Maker Kurogane LJ community. Krissie has graced the community with many, many posts of her fanart and dialogue fan fiction. Krissie is also the founder of PeaceMaker Kurogane College: "It is here that the characters of PeaceMaker Kurogane come to America......and end up attending college..along the way they meet a girl named..." Guess. I dare you. FYI, for those of you who aren't familiar with the series, Peace Maker Kurogane is set in 19th-century Japan.

She gets some positive reviews, but Krissie still feels like people aren't paying enough attention to her, so she makes some apology posts saying "I'm sorry my fics suck." This time she gets some polite, helpful feedback, pointing out obvious things like characterization and her self-insert character. And still, one of her friends comes back with "OMG how can you be so meen?" Krissie herself steps in to invoke Snacky's Law and angst about her Dark Soul.

Updates: Her own personal defense brigade Onegai_sensei has created a community for persecuted fans. And Krissie's put her own journal into a lockdown...



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[info]shoiryu
2004-04-08 07:27 pm UTC (link)
She also asked to join the invitation only PMK RP Kaihen No Jidai... with her Mary-Sue.

And I'm hoping to god she's lying in her user info about her age.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-04-08 07:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]shoiryu, 2004-04-08 07:52 pm UTC
With a Mary Sue??? - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-08 08:03 pm UTC
Re: With a Mary Sue??? - [info]shoiryu, 2004-04-08 08:51 pm UTC
Re: With a Mary Sue??? - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-08 09:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-04-08 08:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]shoiryu, 2004-04-08 08:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-04-08 08:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]shoiryu, 2004-04-08 08:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-04-08 09:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-08 10:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-04-08 11:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-04-08 08:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]shoiryu, 2004-04-08 08:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-04-08 08:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]shoiryu, 2004-04-09 12:14 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-04-09 02:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dawnswalker, 2004-04-09 10:01 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-04-08 07:32 pm UTC (link)
*blinks* I'm on the community and I totally missed this entire thing. *sugh* Good thing too, or I might have tried to give her concrit fpr her fic, and what a waste of time that would have been.

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[info]panthea
2004-04-08 07:51 pm UTC (link)
bwahahahaiconlove.

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(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2004-04-08 08:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-04-08 08:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-08 11:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-04-08 11:20 pm UTC
Pissed off Sanzo - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-08 11:26 pm UTC
Re: Pissed off Sanzo - [info]smo, 2004-04-08 11:30 pm UTC
Re: Pissed off Sanzo - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-09 12:23 am UTC
Re: Pissed off Sanzo - [info]smo, 2004-04-09 04:48 pm UTC
Re: Pissed off Sanzo - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-09 05:25 pm UTC
Re: Pissed off Sanzo - [info]smo, 2004-04-09 05:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]delfeus, 2004-04-11 07:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-04-12 05:36 pm UTC
Re: - [info]delfeus, 2004-04-12 10:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-04-12 11:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]majinkarp, 2004-04-08 10:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-04-08 11:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]majinkarp, 2004-04-08 11:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]panthea, 2004-04-09 01:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2004-04-09 06:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-04-09 04:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2004-04-09 06:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-04-09 06:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2004-04-10 11:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]panthea, 2004-04-11 08:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2004-04-12 03:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-04-12 06:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]koyomi_mizuhara, 2004-04-10 11:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2004-04-10 11:54 am UTC
Over from Jurisimprudence feed on LJ - (Anonymous), 2005-07-24 11:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]delfeus, 2004-04-11 07:24 pm UTC

[info]rinoared
2004-04-08 08:23 pm UTC (link)
Aww, her poor ickle soul is so tormented! *pinches cheeks of the SelfInsert*

For real, she got what, 3-4 positive, albeit very short comments on all of those *shudder* fics? WTF does she want!? I'm glad if I get two comments from any community!

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(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2004-04-08 11:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]majinkarp, 2004-04-08 11:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-09 03:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]majinkarp, 2004-04-09 05:01 am UTC

[info]smo
2004-04-08 08:45 pm UTC (link)
So what if she uses Okita the way she does... isnt that why its a FAN FIC???

No, dear, that's what ORIGINAL FIC is for. If you're going to twist someone else's character to the point where they're unrecognizable, you might as well make up one of your own. And no, Mary Sues do not count.

*sigh* It's like trying to teach a pig to sing, isn't it?

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(no subject) - pooka, 2004-04-09 05:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-04-09 04:32 pm UTC

[info]wisdomeagle
2004-04-08 09:21 pm UTC (link)
...according to her devart profile, she's from Carver, MA. And if she's really 19, she's a year older than I am. I might have gone to grammar school with this girl. *headdesk*

You! Out of my hometown!

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(no subject) - [info]eag, 2004-04-08 09:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-04-08 11:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]janegraddell, 2004-04-09 01:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vergilsparda, 2004-04-09 08:31 am UTC

[info]bohicamouse
2004-04-08 09:32 pm UTC (link)
Gokuuuuuuuuu

Also, uh, tres wanky.

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[info]astrael
2004-04-08 09:57 pm UTC (link)
Ah, the PMK comm wank finally makes its way to FW. I was watching this unfurl last night/very early this morning and I was somewhat amused that people were so civil. Even the anonymous who bluntly laid out the anti-MS opinion had something substantial to say, although less nicely than those posting non-anonymously. And free of spelling errors too.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-04-08 10:21 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-04-08 10:09 pm UTC (link)
I was watching this unfold last night wondering when it would make Teh Wank. I resisted commenting, in fear that bad things would come out of my mouth. *gnaws fingers*

Ahhhh, I feel so validated. Thank you fandom_wank,you bring me such joy.

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[info]ahiru
2004-04-08 10:25 pm UTC (link)
I like the part where her friend claims that people who don't like Mary Sue OC fics shouldn't read them, yet it seems the reason the girl is complaining is because people aren't reading them. So if you don't like them, don't read them but comment positively anyway or you'll hurt the poor baby's feelings.

Also, I think that any time anyone makes a "waaa, nobody likes me I'm LEAVING!" post, a good response would be "Remember to close the door tight when you leave, 'kay?"

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(no subject) - [info]majinkarp, 2004-04-08 10:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-04-08 11:21 pm UTC

[info]sagralisse
2004-04-08 11:27 pm UTC (link)
New community post: Also my rule is do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

I ever spammed an LJ community with my craptastic OC stories in a lame attempt to prop up my pathetically sagging self-esteem, I'd want my friends to put me out of my misery. I wonder if she had that in mind.

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Misery - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-09 03:04 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-04-08 11:53 pm UTC (link)
First time I've seen a wank unfold under my nose before. Actually, like Gimel, I made a very indirect complaint about the PMK community spam on my friends list a few hours before the drama started unfolding. >_>;; At first I felt sorry for her and regretted being snarky about it until I realized she was a year older than me and was throwing a tantrum nevertheless. >_<

Still it's been an edifying experience. Like watching the Titanic crash into the iceberg in slow motion, despite the general politeness of all those involved.

...Tari

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[info]ironymaiden
2004-04-09 01:27 am UTC (link)
wow. the stupid, it burns.

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(Anonymous)
2004-04-09 01:58 am UTC (link)
Awww...poor babies (http://www.livejournal.com/community/fans_only/1960.html)

tehy r n0t hapi taht w3 mokked tehm!! ;.; omg so sad.

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(no subject) - [info]eag, 2004-04-09 02:47 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-04-09 03:03 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-04-09 03:08 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-04-09 02:02 am UTC (link)
how about all of you grow up???? act your own frigging ages and stop bitching about everything going! people like you should go and die on the side of the road and do the world a favor. to the shithead who thinks he went to grammar school with me, you didn't asshole. you don't know me and you never will. secondly, don't bring other people into this. if you have a beef with someone, hit puberty and let your balls decend enough to confrot them and ONLY THEM. this community or whatever the hell this is is total bullshit that was only set up to disparage people. i normally don't swear but this has utterly pissed me off. to all of you go fuck a duck.

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(no subject) - [info]arielchan, 2004-04-09 02:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]imbrium, 2004-04-09 04:11 am UTC
Keyboard malfunction - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-09 03:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nevadafighter, 2004-04-09 03:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2004-04-09 06:30 am UTC
Woo, twice I've been de-lurked. - [info]c_chan, 2004-04-09 07:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2004-04-09 05:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]crickets, 2004-04-10 04:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]diamonde, 2004-04-09 05:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2004-04-10 01:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2004-04-09 07:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]anon_3point5, 2004-04-11 06:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bishounenhuntrs, 2004-04-14 01:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]delfeus, 2004-04-11 07:31 pm UTC
Fish On! - [info]bishounenhuntrs, 2004-04-14 01:13 pm UTC
explain somethin
(Anonymous)
2004-04-09 02:03 am UTC (link)
tell me..why the hell are you guys dissing this girl's fics??? the last time i checked, when you write a FAN fic, you do what you want with the story line (including AC), and even put your own characters in. thats why its called a FAN fic.

tell me your definition of a fan fic, please.

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Re: explain somethin - [info]arielchan, 2004-04-09 02:25 am UTC
Re: explain somethin - (Anonymous), 2004-04-09 02:28 am UTC
Re: explain somethin - [info]pradaloz, 2004-04-09 03:03 am UTC
Re: explain somethin - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-09 03:08 am UTC
Re: explain somethin - [info]shoiryu, 2004-04-09 03:31 am UTC
Re: explain somethin - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-09 04:00 am UTC
Re: explain somethin - [info]nevadafighter, 2004-04-09 03:24 am UTC
Re: explain somethin - [info]imbrium, 2004-04-09 04:16 am UTC
Re: explain somethin - [info]shoiryu, 2004-04-09 03:29 am UTC
Re: explain somethin - [info]loki, 2004-04-09 03:53 am UTC
Re: explain somethin - (Anonymous), 2004-04-09 04:28 am UTC
Re: explain somethin - (Anonymous), 2004-04-09 05:05 am UTC
Re: explain somethin - [info]shoiryu, 2004-04-09 05:07 am UTC
Re: explain somethin - [info]maureenlycaon, 2004-04-09 10:30 am UTC
Re: explain somethin - [info]phosfate, 2004-04-09 07:36 pm UTC
Re: explain somethin - [info]majinkarp, 2004-04-09 04:49 am UTC
Re: explain somethin - [info]dawnswalker, 2004-04-09 10:26 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-04-09 02:06 am UTC (link)
just lurking but I am wondering what you get out all this? It looks a bunch of he said she said crap they play in high school.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-04-09 02:14 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-04-09 02:19 am UTC
i know where THAT is from... - [info]dantaiichi, 2004-04-09 02:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tekenduis, 2004-04-09 05:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-04-11 06:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bishounenhuntrs, 2004-04-14 01:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ahiru, 2004-04-09 02:48 am UTC
Snacky's Law - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-09 03:10 am UTC
Re: Snacky's Law - [info]snacky, 2004-04-09 04:17 pm UTC
Re: Snacky's Law - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-10 12:35 am UTC
Re: Snacky's Law - [info]snacky, 2004-04-10 07:17 am UTC
Re: Snacky's Law - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-10 09:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pradaloz, 2004-04-09 03:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]shoiryu, 2004-04-09 03:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2004-04-09 06:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]diamonde, 2004-04-09 05:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-10 12:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]diamonde, 2004-04-10 12:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-10 09:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]imbrium, 2004-04-09 04:21 am UTC
(no subject) - pooka, 2004-04-09 05:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2004-04-09 05:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]diamonde, 2004-04-09 06:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2004-04-09 07:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]crickets, 2004-04-10 04:41 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-04-09 02:19 am UTC (link)
leik, omg, I wonder who the above anonymous posters could be! omg!

I fear Mary Sues. They eat toes. *puts on her steel-toed boots*

I, for one, am glad they decided to be third grade and go home crying about the injustice of it all. I expected people to be a lot more rude than they were, but what can you do when people are begging for something to angst about?

Angst angst angst. w00t.

-Shinigami_Co

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-04-09 02:26 am UTC
Join Us! - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-09 03:11 am UTC

[info]eag
2004-04-09 02:45 am UTC (link)
Oh, and this is so very beautiful.

totchi_the_doll quotes her post and says:

"eh....I have nothing too intelligent to say......except that due to my latest crappy fic and the fact that i have abused the PMK fandom it would be better if I just leave. There's really nothing left for me to say.... "


Don't feel that you have to leave, that was just someone's opinion, no one hates you or anything.


And _krissie_ replies:

eh......not yet........but it might come eventually

So all of this melodrama is because maybe people just might decide to dislike her in the unforseen future that may or may not happen.

What do you call this? Paranoia, persecution complex, or more simply, a bloated sense of self-importance? Cuz I can't imagine the average person in any given community cares enough to feel one way or the other; it takes a lot of ego to imagine that everyone would suddenly decide to hate a person. Active hate takes effort. :p

Though it really takes out the middle man when a person decides that everyone hates them and then proceeds to make people hate them. More efficient that way. It's like insta-idiot weeding. :D

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-04-09 08:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eag, 2004-04-09 08:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2004-04-09 07:41 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-04-09 04:41 am UTC (link)
Oooh...shiny... *goes to beg* XDXD

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-04-09 04:42 am UTC
Minions - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-10 12:37 am UTC
Re: Minions - [info]shinigami_co, 2004-04-10 04:26 pm UTC
Re: Minions - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-10 09:37 pm UTC
Re: Minions - [info]shoiryu, 2004-04-11 07:27 am UTC
Re: Minions - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-12 04:34 pm UTC
Re: Minions - [info]bishounenhuntrs, 2004-04-14 01:44 pm UTC
Re: Minions - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-14 04:00 pm UTC
Re: Minions - [info]bishounenhuntrs, 2004-04-15 04:47 am UTC
Re: Minions - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-15 03:54 pm UTC
Re: Minions - [info]bishounenhuntrs, 2004-07-13 04:25 am UTC
Re: Minions - [info]deoridhe, 2004-07-13 04:34 am UTC
Re: Minions - [info]bishounenhuntrs, 2004-07-14 06:49 am UTC
Re: Minions - [info]deoridhe, 2004-07-14 07:01 am UTC
Re: Minions - [info]bishounenhuntrs, 2004-07-15 02:58 am UTC
Re: Minions - [info]deoridhe, 2004-07-15 03:00 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-04-09 05:01 am UTC (link)
i can understand that some like it and some don't. theres positive feedback, which everyone likes, negative feedback, which no one likes, and then theres egotistical people who post a comment and trash it. its fine to give negative feedback, its great to give positive, but its just plain wrong to go and dis something like that. i'll bet that if this ever happened to you, you wouldn't be able to take it. if your gonna deal the cards just make sure you can take them being thrown back in your face. im leaving now, thank you for listening to my thoughts, have a nice evening.

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(no subject) - pooka, 2004-04-09 05:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2004-04-09 05:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2004-04-09 07:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]majinkarp, 2004-04-09 06:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dantaiichi, 2004-04-09 02:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2004-04-10 01:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]loki, 2004-04-10 05:18 pm UTC

[info]tekenduis
2004-04-09 05:55 am UTC (link)
This wank calls for icons! (EVERY wank calls for icons!)




Steal away.

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(no subject) - [info]virago, 2004-04-10 05:41 am UTC
Awwwwwwwwww!
[info]pyratejenni
2004-04-09 04:08 pm UTC (link)
Seems Krissie and her buddies decided to take their toys and whine elsewhere -- the entry's been deleted.

Tsk! Haven't they learned deleting a post is even more wanky?

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Re: Awwwwwwwwww! - (Anonymous), 2004-04-09 04:51 pm UTC
Re: Awwwwwwwwww! - [info]majinkarp, 2004-04-09 04:53 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-04-09 10:24 pm UTC (link)
you guys are so sad.

so apparently these days, everyone gets their kicks out of laughing at other people's stupidity. Cuz the sheer number of replies to a little wank is amazing. (*contributing!*)

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(no subject) - [info]ahiru, 2004-04-09 11:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2004-04-09 11:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]majinkarp, 2004-04-10 01:47 am UTC
Grow the fuck up
(Anonymous)
2004-04-10 02:34 am UTC (link)
Grow the fuck up every last one of you. I mean honestly. So what if she takes her OC and has her rape the fucking main character with a damn gravy boat and use his balls as eyes in her jack-o-lantern. What the fuck do you care for? It's her fanfiction-she can write it however the fuck she pleases. If she wants to parade it with Mary-Sues and gay/lesbian couples, so the fuck what. It's her business. No one jumps down your throat about all of your skanchy fan works I'm sure. How about showing a little empathy and tenderness here? You don't know why she writes what she does. You could be making fun of a retarded girl for all you know, or a suicidal person, or someone with an emotional disorder. And when you post things like this, it shows how immature and stupid you all really are. It shows your intelligence, what minute grains are left of it. It shows how ignorant and monstrous you can all be.

I'm not a fucking coward. You can have my name. My name is Lady Goddess Sephiroth. I dare any of you to say something behind this, and we'll fucking see just how tough you are. Yes, I am sticking up for Krissie, Ryo, Sen and anyone else you talked about here today. Just like they're entitled to their opinions, I'm entitled to mine. Only this isn't an opinion-it's a fucking fact. In all honesty, you wouldn't have to read very far to see who the real morons here are. Anyone with half a grain of common sense could see that you're all just wasting your breath and your time. If you call these flames, I'd love to see your reviews. Now go do what most monkeys do-line up all in a row and pick the little fleas out of your nasty fur. At least Sen Ryo and Krissie are brave enough to put their creations out there-I want to see any one of you post anything of yours for all the world to see. That just proves that as individuals, they're growing. And I'm sure you are too-in body. But in mind, you'll all always be a mere 2 years old.

Go play with your Legos, sit in your cradle, and think about when mommy comes home, how she'll change your diapers. And how every last one of you are the most infantile, juvenile people in this or any other community.

No, I'm not upset. I ain't mad-more power to all of you. I hope you all find your peace one day-underneath a monster truck.

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Re: Grow the fuck up - (Anonymous), 2004-04-10 02:48 am UTC
Re: Grow the fuck up - (Anonymous), 2004-04-10 04:31 am UTC
Re: Grow the fuck up - [info]diamonde, 2004-04-10 12:33 pm UTC
Re: Grow the fuck up - [info]diamonde, 2004-04-10 12:42 pm UTC
Re: Grow the fuck up - [info]majinkarp, 2004-04-10 04:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]loki, 2004-04-10 05:27 pm UTC
Re: Grow the fuck up - [info]bishounenhuntrs, 2004-04-14 02:47 pm UTC
Ga-ga goo goo. - [info]majinkarp, 2004-04-10 04:41 am UTC
Re: Ga-ga goo goo. - [info]wakkymse, 2004-04-10 06:18 am UTC
Re: Grow the fuck up - (Anonymous), 2004-04-10 08:09 am UTC
Re: Grow the fuck up - [info]diamonde, 2004-04-10 12:03 pm UTC
Re: Grow the fuck up - [info]deoridhe, 2004-04-10 09:40 pm UTC
Re: Grow the fuck up - [info]mirabellawotr, 2004-04-11 03:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pradaloz, 2004-04-12 02:56 am UTC

 
   
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