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Everyone's favorite pyro-gay-communist-nazis! Avast, mateys, I bring ye more wank from the land of RPS. And this time it's not even an 'RPS is eeeeevol!' wank! Rammstein (*prods* Remember them? The German loonies in the first scene of that godawful Vin Diesel xXx movie?) have over the years attracted a fairly large fanbase that periodically explodes into towering heaps of splooge. This time it manages to erupt from within the relatively small but cultish slash faction, on the rammstein_pimp community, which is mostly devoted to making slashy references, squeeing over the bandmembers, and generally venting all one's base fangirl instincts. It begins, so far as I can tell, when minxfic asks for suggestions on what to call a new fic archive for all the slash fics of sister community the6. At which point several people tell her there's already an archive out there (and what fandom can have more than one archive? shock! horror!), and things quickly descend into squabbling over said existing archive and its maintainer. Blah blah. Minx posts a response, and slackerbitch immediately jumps on her. Catfight ensues, setting the stage for... Primo Wanko. Slackerbitch opines that fangirls are stupid, this community is too cliquish, none of you like me, etc etc, and of course Snacky's Law makes it in by the fifth paragraph. Point. Laugh. Boggle. Whatever. ETA: Oops. Forgot all entries are locked. Here is slackerbitch's post: OMG U DONT LIKE MY FREND SO I WILL NOT LEIK U</font> This is certainly community related so I'll thank you to not bitch at me. I also think it's a valid point that has been on a lot of users' minds and needs to be said, so I'd thank the mod to leave it where it is or tell me to post the entire message in my own journal and link it. Whatever. Since it's a valid point, however, I'd rather it stayed. Besides, I think it's time somebody said this rather than just thought it. Since I'm back on prozac I'm going to have to be the one. I am extremely irritated at the way things are starting to go around here. I joined this community because I was directed here by </a></b></a> I later deleted a few of you from my friends list, not because of this, but because I got the strong impression you didn't care for me and had added me because you assumed I was a giant Rammstein fan. Unfortunately, I have other interests and I like people on my friends list to share a few more than one. Nothing personal to those of you I removed - I'm sure you're not half as unpleasant as people can be, but face it - you don't/didn't/never liked me, and we had nothing in common. Now that I've cleared that up, I think it's safe to say that you cannot argue that I grow weary of this community because "OMG NOBODY LIKES ME". Nobody liked me at school because I was a nerd who did my work - I stayed. Nobody likes me at uni because I'm not some dirty chav into garage music - I am still here. Besides, several people I know and love are still here; several people here know exactly what I'm talking about and agree; and several of you are decent enough to be civil when someone has a differing opinion to you. Therefore, I could easily stay and be comfortable. However, I am growing very tired of this place. One reason is that on the rare ocassion somebody dares to say something that doesn't go with the majority, they are pounced on by the rest of the community. However, this only happens if the false impression of this community's superiority is threatened or if they dare to disagree with one of the "clan". If I were to say something here that nobody agreed with - for example, if I was to set up a slash archive (what is, indeed, the point), or to suggest making a layout for the community's website (threatening the sanctity of the comm) - I would only get eaten alive because that job is reserved for a special elite. It seems that in this community, there is a rather disturbing hierarchy emerging, leading to a rather unpleasant atmosphere akin to Herzeleid.com. I'm sorry I don't talk to half of you on AIM, but I'm not the kind of squeeing person, hyperactive over Rammstein's snot that you seem to need in order to speak to each other. Don't get out of your prams just yet - because what I read here, and on others' journals is a cut and paste of AIM conversations centred around Rammstein: screaming, yelling, hyperactive immaturity. Yes, I used to be a rather disturbingly obsessed fan, but I grew up. And yes, I'm all for immaturity in the right context. That kind of AIM conversation is the kind of immaturity I'm cool with and am quite partial to. However, because I don't do this over Rammstein with the rest of you on AIM does not mean I don't have a right to an opinion. So, I am of the opinion that while it is absolutely fine to favour your friends in a community, it is not fine to start catfights and get babyish about differing opinions. I am also very bored by the self-pity we get here. You want to feel sorry for yourself because about 3 people don't agree with you? Complain in your own journal or find a community full of self-obsessors who will sympathise. If I wanted to read your self-pitying posts, I'd have you on my friends list. Today's post was such an example. There were around three people who stated they did not like the idea - or where wondering what the point was - ofanother slash archive. This does not warrant self pity, even in your own journal. Three people don't like your idea. So what? If you want to do it - and you evidently do - stop being a child, get over the criticism of the minority and do it anyway. Don't be an attention seeking brat over it in a community journal. Yes, I do find the idea of a site for "the_6" rather odd, since everything is automatically archived at LJ and is easily accessible if a moderator uses the "Memory" feature. Yes, I think today's self-pity post was unnecessary and stupid. And I see no harm in saying that if it will stop my - and other peoples' - pain. Yes, anyone here who was genuinely upset by the suggestion of a new archive needs serious help. Christ almighty people: All that opposers did was ask WHY it was necessary for a new archive. And damned right I was rude to a particular one or two of you today, but to be quite honest - You asked for it. If people don't like your idea, all you have to do is ignore them and get on with it - there is no need to post a good hard whinge in a community. It is incredibly annoying. [Error: Irreparable invalid markup ('<lj-user="goodtwin">') in entry. Owner must fix manually. Raw contents below.] Avast, mateys, I bring ye more wank from the land of RPS. And this time it's not even an 'RPS is eeeeevol!' wank! Rammstein (*prods* Remember them? The German loonies in the first scene of that godawful Vin Diesel xXx movie?) have over the years attracted a fairly large fanbase that periodically explodes into towering heaps of splooge. This time it manages to erupt from within the relatively small but cultish slash faction, on the rammstein_pimp community, which is mostly devoted to making slashy references, squeeing over the bandmembers, and generally venting all one's base fangirl instincts. It begins, so far as I can tell, when minxfic asks for <a href="http://www.livejournal.com/community/rammstein_pimp/109789.html">suggestions</a> on what to call a new fic archive for all the slash fics of sister community the6. At which point several people tell her there's already an archive out there (and what fandom can have more than one archive? shock! horror!), and things quickly descend into squabbling over said existing archive and its maintainer. Blah blah. Minx posts a <a href="http://www.livejournal.com/community/rammstein_pimp/110407.html">response</a>, and slackerbitch immediately jumps on her. Catfight ensues, setting the stage for... <a href="http://www.livejournal.com/community/rammstein_pimp/111085.html">Primo Wanko.</a> Slackerbitch opines that fangirls are stupid, this community is too cliquish, none of you like me, etc etc, and of course Snacky's Law makes it in by the fifth paragraph. Point. Laugh. Boggle. Whatever. ETA: Oops. Forgot all entries are locked. Here is slackerbitch's post: <lj-cut text="OMG U DON'T LIKE MY FRIEND SO I WILL NOT LIEK U"> <i><b>OMG U DONT LIKE MY FREND SO I WILL NOT LEIK U</b></i></font><br /> This is certainly community related so I'll thank you to not bitch at me. I also think it's a valid point that has been on a lot of users' minds and needs to be said, so I'd thank the mod to leave it where it is or tell me to post the entire message in my own journal and link it. Whatever. Since it's a valid point, however, I'd rather it stayed. Besides, I think it's time somebody <i>said</i> this rather than just <i>thought</i> it. Since I'm back on prozac I'm going to have to be the one.<br /><br />I am extremely irritated at the way things are starting to go around here.<br /><br />I joined this community because I was directed here by <span class='ljuser' style='white-space: nowrap;'><a href='http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=eviltwin737'><img src='http://stat.livejournal.com/img/userinfo.gif' alt='[info]' width='17' height='17' style='vertical-align: bottom; border: 0;' /></a><a href='http://www.livejournal.com/users/eviltwin737/'><b>eviltwin737</b></a></span>. A lot of my friends had joined, she was a nice lass, so I figured it was a pretty nice place to be. It was. So no, I'm not a "troll".<br /><br />I later deleted a few of you from my friends list, not because of this, but because I got the strong impression you didn't care for me and had added me because you assumed I was a giant Rammstein fan. Unfortunately, I have other interests and I like people on my friends list to share a few more than one. Nothing personal to those of you I removed - I'm sure you're not half as unpleasant as people can be, but face it - you don't/didn't/never liked me, and we had nothing in common.<br /><br />Now that I've cleared that up, I think it's safe to say that you cannot argue that I grow weary of this community because "OMG NOBODY LIKES ME". Nobody liked me at school because I was a nerd who did my work - I stayed. Nobody likes me at uni because I'm not some dirty chav into garage music - I am still here. Besides, several people I know and love are still here; several people here know exactly what I'm talking about and agree; and several of you are decent enough to be civil when someone has a differing opinion to you. Therefore, I could easily stay and be comfortable. <br /><br />However, I <i>am</i> growing very tired of this place. <br /><br />One reason is that on the rare ocassion somebody dares to say something that doesn't go with the majority, they are pounced on by the rest of the community. However, this only happens if the false impression of this community's superiority is threatened or if they dare to disagree with one of the "clan". If I were to say something here that nobody agreed with - for example, if I was to set up a slash archive (what is, indeed, the point), or to suggest making a layout for the community's website (threatening the sanctity of the comm) - I would only get eaten alive because that job is reserved for a special elite. <br /><br />It seems that in this community, there is a rather disturbing hierarchy emerging, leading to a rather unpleasant atmosphere akin to Herzeleid.com. I'm sorry I don't talk to half of you on AIM, but I'm not the kind of squeeing person, hyperactive over Rammstein's snot that you seem to need in order to speak to each other. Don't get out of your prams just yet - because what I read here, and on others' journals is a cut and paste of AIM conversations centred around Rammstein: screaming, yelling, hyperactive immaturity. Yes, I <i>used</i> to be a rather disturbingly obsessed fan, but I grew up. And yes, I'm all for immaturity in the right context. That kind of AIM conversation is the kind of immaturity I'm cool with and am quite partial to. However, because I don't do this over Rammstein with the rest of you on AIM does <i>not</i> mean I don't have a right to an opinion. <br /><br />So, I am of the opinion that while it is absolutely fine to favour your friends in a community, it is <i>not</i> fine to start catfights and get babyish about differing opinions.<br /><br />I am also very bored by the self-pity we get here. You want to feel sorry for yourself because about 3 people don't agree with you? Complain in your <i>own</i> journal or find a community full of self-obsessors who will sympathise. If I wanted to read your self-pitying posts, I'd have you on my friends list. Today's post was such an example. There were around three people who stated they did not like the idea - or where wondering what the point was - of<i>another</i> slash archive. This does not warrant self pity, <i>even in your own journal</i>. Three people don't like your idea. So what? If <i>you</i> want to do it - and you evidently do - stop being a child, get over the criticism of the <i>minority</i> and do it anyway. Don't be an attention seeking brat over it in a community journal.<br /><br />Yes, I do find the idea of a site for "the_6" rather odd, since everything is automatically archived at LJ and is easily accessible if a moderator uses the "Memory" feature.<br />Yes, I think today's self-pity post was unnecessary and stupid. And I see no harm in saying that if it will stop my - and other peoples' - pain.<br />Yes, anyone here who was genuinely <i>upset</i> by the suggestion of a new archive needs serious help. <br /><br />Christ almighty people: <font size="+1"><i>All that opposers did was ask <b>WHY</b> it was necessary for a new archive.</i></font> <br /><br />And damned right I was rude to a particular one or two of you today, but to be quite honest - You asked for it. If people don't like your idea, all you have to do is ignore them and get on with it - there is no need to post a good hard whinge in a community. It is incredibly annoying.<br /><br /><a name="cutid1"></a><br /><lj user="eviltwin737"> Thank you for creating this place, thank you for being civil and decent when people don't agree with the majority. Thank you for being polite to me despite not argreeing with me.<br /><lj user="kaydn"> - your reply to me was extremely unnecessary and you shouldn't get upset when I say it was <b>stupid</b> because it was, I'm afraid. <br /><lj user="diagon"> - I don't <i>think</i> your reply to my post was something you did using any amount of intelligence either. Had I come here and gotten personal and stupid events then I would let you piss all over me like you did. However, I did not and you do not know my life history so I suggest you just glue it.<br /><lj user="minxfic"> - bitching => YOUR journal. If people don't agree with you just deal with it. Your butt is not going to be licked in the outside world you know. You'll have to learn to deal with it in a way other than crying and trying to get pity. People in the real world are like me - they don't agree with you, and no amount of complaining or crying is going to change their mind. Keep this behaviour up, you will get more than one person transforming into John Prescott and hitting out at you and this place will have earned a place at LJ_Drama.<br /><lj-user="goodtwin"> - Don't be a cretin. Bitch about me <i>to</i> me.<br /><br />To the community in general: just because I don't agree with <lj user="minxfic">'s suggestions or posts in this community does not mean you should try and wage gang warfare ok? Jesus Christ ladies (and the odd gent). This place is becoming like playschool. The Bush-Blair alliance is disturbing enough without a similar type of thing being forged here. I was hoping for more of a European Union - disagreements and differences but general peace. <br /><br />To those of you whom this does not apply, then thank <i>you</i> for not being excessively annoying and childish.<br /><br />You say in the userinfo to talk about this place. I do, and I don't want it to be for reasons such as this. This community deserves a reputation. But not one that suggests this place is full of children who don't like a differing opinion.</lj-cut> Post a comment in response: |
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