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The Other Dubya ([info]misswindy) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-04-30 01:03:00


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Queer Eye For the Oversharing Ex-Wife of the Straight Guy?
So, I run TheBESTSITEEVAARRR!!!1!! this little pop culture portal called PanFandom, and one of our most popular fandoms is Queer Eye For the Straight Guy, which is largely due to the fact that it's the only such community of its kind for the fandom. Also, Brooding_Soul writes killer recaps of the show and the forums get a lot of traffic, so BRAVO's official show web site links to us quite prominently and frequently. Although they posted that Thom hates our color scheme. Whatev, Filicia. I wasn't crazy about those red light-up coffee tables you bought that redneck that one time, either.

Anyway, a few weeks ago, Queer Eye aired this episode called "Do You Know The Mullet Man?" in which a man wants to get rid of his spectacular mullet and be a Make Better so that he wouldn't embarrass his daughter at her upcoming birthday party. He was portrayed as being a very sweet and loving father and the ep had a lot of "Awwww!" moments. As he always does every week, Brooding_Soul opens a thread about the episode, which can be found here.

Half a dozen posts down, someone named Liz comes in to post her letter to Bravo. You see, apparently Mark Faries, the man featured in that episode, is a big stinky liar. That wasn't his daughter - that was the daughter of his shiny new wife. His REAL daughter, he lied to and told her not to come that weekend. (This has been verified by a half dozen different sources, and even in the ep, he mentions to Carson that it's his stepdaughter, and Carson seems very surprised.) Here's the letter:


Dear Sirs:

I am not a fan of reality television shows but I have always enjoyed Queer Eye for the Straight Guy for the simple reason that it is a show about people helping people. As corny as that may sound, I much prefer watching a program that highlights the best in people rather than one that shows how cruel and cold we are capable of being to each other. It's nice to sit back and root for the straight guy in his quest for self-improvement, with the ebullient aid of the Fab 5, but moreover that his quest is for a greater good, the love of his lady or his family.

So you must understand my shock, disbelief and outrage when I watched on Saturday evening, April 17, 2004 the episode featuring Mark Faries. As the episode unfolded I became more and more appalled at the total disregard for the truth. I can only assume you were unaware that Mr. Faries has a biological daughter, Crystal Lynn Faries that just turned eighteen on March 16. My heart broke for her as I watched you portray this man as a loving father. It was painful to hear his proclamations of fatherly love to his step-daughter and not one word about his own child. What kind of reality do you deal in? Don't you require your applicants to be honest? How could you parade this man to millions of Americans as a loving father? Did you question why there were two beds in Karly's room? One belongs to Crystal. She has visitation with her father one weekend of every month. Now I don't know when you filmed this show, but Crystal's father told her she couldn't come in February because he was busy.

I wouldn't have taken issue with this episode had it been about Mark doing his transformation for Roe. But it was clearly all about Karly and what he could do for her. I found it extremely difficult to watch and at some points had to walk away. I can only imagine the pain it caused Crystal. Crystal is a beautiful eighteen-year-old honor student that will be attending college in the fall. She is a wonderful young lady in spite of her father and did not deserve to have to endure this pain and humiliation. Her father has flat out refused to contribute to her education in any way and yet you held him up for all to see as a candidate for Father of the Year.

Needless to say, for a reality television show, you need to make sure you have all the facts. I will never be able to watch this show again knowing that what I am watching may very well be all lies. I certainly hope when you help the next straight guy get it together for his girlfriend that you make sure he doesn't have a wife. Mostly, I hope no child has to endure what Crystal Faries was forced to.

I'm sure your feeling on this matter is that it's not your responsibility to know the truth. If so, then don't package your show as reality television. Because in reality, you hurt a terrific young lady.

**************

Thank you for listening.

Liz


I have to admit I did smirk at the whole "I hope no child ever has to go through the trauma of being left off her rightful place on an episode of reality television ever again!" Then other friends of the girl's family show up en masse, having all been banned off the Bravo boards, to verify and add details of Mark's assiness. A few posts later, Mark's ex-wife shows up to give us details on how, exactly, Mark Faries deserves to get gonorrhea and die:



I am glad there is some dialog going on about this, as I am the mother of this guy's biological daughter. First, I want to say, that he has always been a good liar. My friends who have posted on here know this about him. He has also always been selfish. The only person he truly has affection for is himself. If he needed a reason to want to change in order to be on the show, he would fake whatever he had to, just to get "stuff" out of it. I am sure his wife put him up to doing it for Karly, so she could get an 18th birthday party and computer, etc. for college. Meanwhile, he purposely left his own daughter out of it. A caring father would have included her, had a dual party, since her 18th birthday was a few weeks after Karly's and maybe gotten her something out of it for college too. His real daughter has been accepted into the Honors Program at a good school, and we are struggling to come up with the money for it. She doesn't have any of the things she needs for her dorm room, and he refuses to help in any way. Karly has a good father who is paying for her tuition by himself. In fact, Mullet Man Mark's wife told my daughter that since Karly's father did it all alone and didn't make her submit anything about her finances, I should do it all alone and not ask Mark to report his income to the school. My daughter asked him anyway, because we can't afford to do it alone, and he refused to contribute a cent. He has never wanted to part with his money, even when we were married and she needed diapers as a baby. He always payed his small weekly amount in child support, but there are other ways to be a deadbeat dad, and a lousy person. My daughter really was very upset by what she saw, she knows the true family dynamic in that household, up till now she visited regularly. Now, I will be surprised if she ever speaks to him again. But she has been cheated by him all of her life, this was just the final blow.

We honestly had no idea what to do about this thread, y'all. It's so obvious that these people got banned by BRAVO and decided to use our forums as a medium for getting the word out, but they weren't doing anything *wrong,* per se. Finally we decided to just leave it there because "It makes me wrinkle my nose in disdain" isn't a valid reason for deleting a post, but maybe we did the wrong thing, because now everyone's sharing their own personal Bad!Parent stories and... ack.

I feel for these people, really, I do, but it's like, I just watch because Kyan and Thom are pretty and give good grooming and design advice, you know? Sigh.


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[info]kijikun
2004-04-30 08:32 am UTC (link)
I'm frightened and confused...

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[info]misswindy
2004-04-30 08:35 am UTC (link)
*pets you*

My friend saw this and said: The line between reality and television just got that much thinner.

I wasn't sure if this should have been posted here, or in that real-life wank community, or what. I just... knew I had to share!

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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-04-30 08:42 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-04-30 08:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2004-04-30 09:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-04-30 09:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mariagoner, 2004-04-30 02:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2004-04-30 07:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sagralisse, 2004-04-30 11:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]crickets, 2004-04-30 09:51 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-04-30 06:48 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]limyaael, 2004-04-30 08:32 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-05-01 12:34 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]psychofangirl, 2004-04-30 09:44 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-04-30 09:49 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]pipssister, 2004-04-30 06:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-04-30 08:31 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]crickets, 2004-05-01 03:06 am UTC

[info]ivyincubus
2004-04-30 10:08 am UTC (link)
*points at first cut tag* Say Anything! *holds up boom box*

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[info]misswindy
2004-04-30 04:43 pm UTC (link)
Hee! I swear that's one of the best romance movies ever made.

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(no subject) - [info]izzygal, 2004-04-30 06:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iamtheenemy, 2004-05-01 12:54 am UTC

wizzard
2004-04-30 11:52 am UTC (link)
Ha. You jinxed yourself by saying that your site had no wank in that TWoP thread.

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[info]mariagoner
2004-04-30 02:52 pm UTC (link)
Aw, give Miss Windy a break. There's a first time for everything, eh?

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[info]misswindy
2004-04-30 04:44 pm UTC (link)
You jinxed yourself by saying that your site had no wank in that TWoP thread.

I did, huh! Well, I guess it had to happen sooner or later. I've seen worse, all things considered. On TWoP, even.

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(no subject) - wizzard, 2004-04-30 06:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-04-30 06:45 pm UTC

[info]dawnswalker
2004-04-30 02:18 pm UTC (link)
Maybe he just loves his step-daughter more than he loves his biological daughter?

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[info]misswindy
2004-04-30 04:46 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, maybe, but if that's the case, [JerrySpringerpanelist]That just ain't raaaaaaaght.[/JSp]

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[info]truculent
2004-04-30 02:56 pm UTC (link)
but moreover that his quest is for a greater good, the love of his lady or his family.

and....the sea.

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[info]kijikun
2004-05-01 01:52 am UTC (link)
Brandy was a fine girl

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(no subject) - [info]crickets, 2004-05-01 03:07 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-04-30 03:57 pm UTC (link)
Is it just me, or is naming a kid "Crystal Faries" some kind of cruel? Sounds like a second-rate 1980s knockoff toy line.

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[info]misswindy
2004-04-30 04:45 pm UTC (link)
Is it just me, or is naming a kid "Crystal Faries" some kind of cruel?

It is not just you. When we originally googled the name to see if we could corroborate the story and make sure these people weren't just really imaginative trolls, Google kept insisting that we really meant "crystal fairies."

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(no subject) - [info]mirabellawotr, 2004-04-30 05:17 pm UTC
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[info]mydruthers
2004-04-30 06:30 pm UTC (link)
I thought the ame thing. I bet she got beat up a lot as a kid.

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[info]sistermagpie
2004-04-30 05:19 pm UTC (link)
I'm sure they have a long and comlicated relationship and for all I know he's been a bad father to his biological daughter, but basically this letter says this woman is angry that her daughter didn't get to be on television too and possibly get stuff (probably because it was Karly, with whom he lives, who wrote to the show).

I don't think Mark would have much say in who got included in the episode, whether he wanted Crystal there or not. It seems more logical to me that it's the show that decides what the story of any particular episode is-it's edited together by them. They wanted to play up that he was doing this for his stepdaughter. If I were doing the show I think I'd probably want to cut out the biological daughter too, simply because she's got nothing to do with the story of the episode and just complicates things. Had she been there mom might be fuming that they made it seem like his new wife was Crystal's mom too and she'd be angry about that.

The show's about the guy's awful fashion sense, not giving us the details of his personal life. It's kind of neat, though, how Mark allegedly cuts Crystal out while Mom drags Crystal in, and throughout it all Crystal is invisible (and that name really is heinous).

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[info]c_chan
2004-04-30 07:04 pm UTC (link)
Oh god. I saw "Crystal" and automatically though of Gamgee and CrystalWank.

OMG THEIR ANGER IS PASTEDE ON YAY!

*is shot*

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[info]dogatemysocks
2004-05-01 12:54 am UTC (link)
Yeah I was going to say, maybe it's the same Crystal, but then I realized someone else had probably already come to that brilliant conclusion.

*snerk*

Wouldn't it be funny?

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(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2004-05-01 01:58 am UTC
Re: - [info]dogatemysocks, 2004-05-01 02:38 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-04-30 09:09 pm UTC (link)
I certainly hope when you help the next straight guy get it together for his girlfriend that you make sure he doesn't have a wife.

I'm confused. Is she saying that she and mullet man are still married? Or is she saying stepdaughter is to daughter what girlfriend is to wife? Because...err, no. Faulty analogy.

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[info]senor_pinata
2004-04-30 09:42 pm UTC (link)
I think...latter? Like she's saying that if they have someone one the show who wants to do something for someone, they should make sure that there's not someone he should be doing it for but isn't.

My head hurts now.

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(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2004-05-01 02:30 am UTC

[info]kijikun
2004-05-01 12:31 am UTC (link)
I think its more she's just bitter and hates the fact that his new wife and step-daughter were on tv and she wasnt.

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[info]thoms
2004-04-30 09:15 pm UTC (link)
Oy.

I don't know. I figured the backlash would start sooner or later.

I mean, with Allen (Alan?) the Penny Pincher, that was angering because he took advantage of them. Bravo really doesn't seem to care, because they keep airing the episode.

And now this.

My major problem with this whole thing, apart from "Oooh, these grapes are sour" is that somehow, it's almost like Crystal's mother wants the Fab 5 to be held personally responsible for this, when, by the look on Carson's face when he was corrected with "Step-daughter," it's pretty obvious how much information they're given from the folks at Bravo, which is, not much by the looks of it.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-04-30 11:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mpoetess, 2004-04-30 11:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-02 03:36 am UTC
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[info]rann
2004-05-01 12:25 am UTC (link)
Sweeties, in all likelihood, your darling little girl is an untalented little brat. Getting her on an episode of Queer Eye is not going to rocket her to superstardom. So bitches, please, get over it.

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[info]iamtheenemy
2004-05-01 01:05 am UTC (link)
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but if MY dad told me not to come over, and then I saw an episode of a TV show that at the same time, he was proclaiming unending love and adoration for another daughter, I'd be pretty damn pissed off, as well as humiliated. I mean, the mom is being whiny, but I totally see the other side of that issue. She got royally dissed by her dad, what the fuck is that? And yeah, I'd be mad if some other girl got tons of stuff from my dad while he won't even pay for my college.

That being said, the daughter hasn't responded, so we don't know first hand how she really reacted to this news, or what her relationship is to her father, or if she isn't a complete bitch. But still. Ouch, man, OUCH.

Steph

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(no subject) - [info]sagralisse, 2004-05-01 01:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-05-01 01:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]thebratqueen, 2004-05-01 09:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sistermagpie, 2004-05-02 05:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-05-02 06:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-05-02 06:05 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-05-01 08:28 am UTC

[info]minion_of_truth
2004-05-01 07:15 am UTC (link)
If he needed a reason to want to change in order to be on the show, he would fake whatever he had to, just to get "stuff" out of it. I am sure his wife put him up to doing it for Karly, so she could get an 18th birthday party and computer, etc. for college. Meanwhile, he purposely left his own daughter out of it. A caring father would have included her, had a dual party, since her 18th birthday was a few weeks after Karly's and maybe gotten her something out of it for college too.

That is my favorite part.

"He was just lying to get stuff for his step-daughter, the jerk. A good father would have lied to get the stuff for his real daughter!"

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-01 08:27 am UTC
sorta OT
[info]pokecheck
2004-05-01 01:04 pm UTC (link)
Um. I've always wondered about this, and since I didn't see that Queer Eye episode, I don't know if they mentioned this, but...

why's it called a "mullet?"

Cuz, yaknow, whenever I see a guy (or girl for that matter) short in the front and long in the back, I think "FISH!"

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Re: sorta OT - (Anonymous), 2004-05-01 10:02 pm UTC

 
   
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