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Rann Aridorn ([info]rann) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-05-12 01:12:00


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Moore More Wank... or something.
Moorewatch is a co-owned blog dedicated to pointing out the factual errors and such of Michael Moore. It follows up on news stories and such about him, such as the time he threw a fit and abused staff members in a UK theater house because he didn't feel he was being paid enough, or the more recent bit of wankery involving Miramax and Disney.
Of course, the site has its share of visitors from the Moore-defense side of things. Rarely, they are intelligent and interested in actual debate. The rest are blatant trolls, and range from simply persistant and annoying, to abusive, to utterly nonsensical. Unfortunately, the Moorewatch maintainers are fairly dedicated to giving everyone their say, and a troll generally only gets banned once every four or six months, and it has to be for getting INSANELY annoying.
Seems that one of the new batch is looking to go for two in as many weeks.
The latest round of trolling occurs here, where one of the site maintainers makes his monthly request for donations to Mike Wilson, the man making a documentary about Moore called Michael Moore Hates America. This is a topic that never fails to bring out the rabid Moore-defenders, as many of them can't get past the title. (These exact same people will sneer if you point out that the Columbine killers didn't actually go bowling the morning of the shooting. Y'know, the premise that Bowling For Columbine gets its title from?)

It starts off fairly simply, with people commenting on the cost of pizzas in their area, since Lee asked everyone to give up the $20 they might have spent on a pizza that month to donate to Mike Wilson. (And throws in a jab at Moore's eating habits in the process, a jab gleefully repeated by others.)
The first light hint of wank comes from Darkwing Dork, who says:
I think Mr. Moore might be a little... intimidated to appear in a film titled Micheal Moore Hates America.
(But it's okay for him to try and intimidate and harass people for HIS documentaries, right? c.c)
Not terribly wanky, and old news, it's pretty much completely ignored.
Then, we get jjjameson2004, one of the site's more recent trolls, leaping into things.

Yes, by all means you should get used to giving your hard earned money to Mike Wilson. After all, that's what he's in this for and he appears to have tapped into his own little private goldmine....the I hate Michael Moore club. I hear he even takes paypal.

And as we all know from a recent wank, PayPal is teh evol, right? n.-

I encourage everyone to send him lots of money immediately. Imagine the sense of pride you will feel upon watching "Michael Moore Hates America" as it reinforces your belief in your beliefs. Perhaps you may want to order the DVD when it is released and simply pop it in whenever you're feeling a little self-doubt.

The fact that he states this without any sense of irony whatsoever is what really gets me. n.n
Ah, but He Who Would Kill Spider-Man isn't quite done, with this message. He finishes that paragraph with some little ramble about everyone who visits the site holding theme parties for hating Moore, and then adds this little gem on:

Hmmmm...I was wondering, and I thought some of you might be able to help me out with this? Surely, we have found WMDs in Iraq by NOW? Right? I must not have heard about them on the news. Oh, sorry, gotta go....can't keep Mr. Wilson waiting as Paypal awaits my transfer.

*headdesk*
As you'd expect, there's general groaning over the fact that there can't be a discussion about anything without someone trying to derail it and make it about the WMDs. There's also some retaliation along the lines of "I don't swallow propaganda mindlessly, YOU swallow propaganda mindlessly!"
Mike Wilson, maker of the contended film, shows up as well, to make a post that, while I rather agree with, is probably pretty wanky as well.

If you want to rip on me (as you've done in repeated emails) go ahead, but don't be such a jerkoff to people who are simply willing to take a chance that I'm a person with integrity, who's trying to do something positive. Grow the f*ck up.

He took it to the (edited) bad word place, so I guess it is indeed wanky. The current troll fires back with "I'll be waiting for the sequel, JJJameson2004 Hates America.", to which people generally reply, "Yeah, but no one gives a fuck about you." Oh, one of them, in rather wankariffic style, refers to him as KKKameson2004. Would that be a version of Godwin's?

Ah, but it's now that the real star of the show turns up.

meathook: Michael Moore wants to make money like everybody else. He is almost so left, that he is almost right.

Uh... huh? Okay? o.o
Ah, but that's only the beginning. Meathook proceeds to post TEN MORE TIMES after that, with the majority of them having no one else's replies between them. It's just him yammering on. Highlights include:

fuck your religion. I will never pay for it. your ideas are shit. rich conservatives convince people like you into paying for thier expenses. Because you will do anythng to believe that you are doing the right thing.

the sorry thing is that this website will be proven wrong and it will hurt. I am tired and bored of glory. you're fucking glory is washing up in George Bushes face.

or should I say fecies.

...and I quote... George W. Bush is the worst president ever. (Ed. note: ... Yes, that's all he posted in that message. He didn't say who he was quoting, or from what.)

And then, what may be the capper, again in a message all its own: so now, take me out of context..

... Keep in mind, I just posted his entire messages. As a poster says soon afterwards, it would be a little bit of a challenge to take those out of context.
Anyway, it continues on to where meathook starts basically shouting "Ban me! Ban me!", and other posters agree that this would be a nice thing to happen.
Not a terrible lot of replies right now, but meathook looks like he's going to be trolling this post for awhile, and JJJameson2004 hasn't shown up to make his latest round of rebuttals yet. This one will probably keep on building for the rest of the month, until Lee makes the NEXT donation request.
(Decided on F_W instead of OTF_W because it's more about Moore fandom/anti-fandom or Wilson-fandom than the actual politics.)


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[info]bohicamouse
2004-05-12 10:01 am UTC (link)
fuck your religion. I will never pay for it.

I take it he's not a Scientologist.

I am tired and bored of glory. you're fucking glory is washing up in George Bushes face.

or should I say fecies.


I don't even get that, but misspellings of feces make everything funny!

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[info]rann
2004-05-12 10:08 am UTC (link)
I dunno if there's anything to get. o.o This guy's a little difficult to identify... he's just ALMOST random, but he's hovering around staying on the site topic, or at least contending the site's topic.

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(Anonymous)
2004-05-12 03:48 pm UTC (link)
I don't even get that, but misspellings of feces make everything funny!

Especially when it's spelt faeces ...

Gundum

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(no subject) - [info]kindest_demon, 2004-05-12 06:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-12 07:34 pm UTC
Re: - [info]kindest_demon, 2004-05-13 12:15 am UTC

nakannimi
2004-05-12 05:13 pm UTC (link)
So is the feces washing up in George's face, or is the glory washing up in George's feces? Either way, it makes no sense.

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[info]bardic_feline
2004-05-12 10:10 am UTC (link)
You know...after I first saw Bowling for Columbine, I almost immediatly forgot what Michael Moore's real name was. (I have a horrible memory for names.) So, as a result of my faulty memory, I was going around calling the man Michael Moorehead. It was almost prophetic, in a way...

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[info]smo
2004-05-12 05:30 pm UTC (link)
"Michael Moorehead is really... MONTANA Moorehead, of Syosset, Long Island!"

[/Soapdish]

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(no subject) - [info]queenbead, 2004-05-12 07:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-05-12 08:21 pm UTC
Ummm...*blushes* - [info]bardic_feline, 2004-05-12 08:04 pm UTC
Re: Ummm...*blushes* - [info]smo, 2004-05-12 08:11 pm UTC
Re: Ummm...*blushes* - [info]bardic_feline, 2004-05-12 08:14 pm UTC
Re: Ummm...*blushes* - [info]smo, 2004-05-12 08:21 pm UTC
Re: Ummm...*blushes* - [info]bardic_feline, 2004-05-12 08:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bardic_feline, 2004-05-12 09:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-05-12 09:33 pm UTC

[info]vassilissa
2004-05-12 10:14 am UTC (link)
*is depressed*

Michael Moore is funny, smart,and WRONG. He makes me want a 'Stop being on my side, you make my side look dishonest, stupid, and really fucking rude!' icon.

*tries to enjoy the wank*

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[info]bardic_feline
2004-05-12 10:17 am UTC (link)
Amen to that. I saw BfC, and thought it was hilarious. I thought the man was a complete asshole...but I still thought the movie was hilarious. (In a horribly biased, "can you make us look any worse?" kind of way...)

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(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-05-12 05:31 pm UTC
Count me amongst the trolls.
[info]piggelin
2004-05-12 10:26 am UTC (link)
A title like "Michael Moore hates America" reminds me of people spouting bullshit like "If you're not for the war, you're anti-american".

Look here for some of the lies in BFC: http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/

But then again, I'm living in a socialist-country so I migth be brainwashed.

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Re: Count me amongst the trolls.
[info]queenbead
2004-05-12 10:34 am UTC (link)
feel better? tissue?

~QB

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Re: Count me amongst the trolls.
[info]oulangi
2004-05-12 10:55 am UTC (link)
Eh I noticed a certain amount of conservative knee jerk on this: can't answer the question? Attack Michael Moore. I guess blaming Monica Lewinski for the stock market crash! the economy! the war in Iraq! the Hindenburg disaster! Ebola! has finally gotten old.

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Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]rann, 2004-05-12 11:02 am UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]oulangi, 2004-05-12 11:14 am UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]rann, 2004-05-12 11:17 am UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]oulangi, 2004-05-12 11:20 am UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]zorrorojo, 2004-05-12 12:41 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]rann, 2004-05-12 12:47 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]zorrorojo, 2004-05-12 12:54 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]rann, 2004-05-12 12:54 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]shoiryu, 2004-05-12 07:18 pm UTC
Meta-discussion, because I feel like it - [info]eiviiaru, 2004-05-12 03:07 pm UTC
Re: Meta-discussion, because I feel like it - [info]northatlantic, 2004-05-12 05:52 pm UTC
Re: Meta-discussion, because I feel like it - [info]eiviiaru, 2004-05-12 05:56 pm UTC
Re: Meta-discussion, because I feel like it - [info]melange, 2004-05-12 06:51 pm UTC
Re: Meta-discussion, because I feel like it - [info]eiviiaru, 2004-05-12 08:59 pm UTC
Re: Meta-discussion, because I feel like it - [info]melange, 2004-05-12 10:19 pm UTC
Re: Meta-discussion, because I feel like it - [info]eiviiaru, 2004-05-12 10:27 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]melange, 2004-05-12 01:00 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]rann, 2004-05-12 01:05 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]melange, 2004-05-12 01:33 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]rann, 2004-05-12 01:37 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]melange, 2004-05-12 02:01 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]rann, 2004-05-12 02:08 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]melange, 2004-05-12 02:30 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]rann, 2004-05-12 02:32 pm UTC
A humbe comment from a total plebe - [info]bardic_feline, 2004-05-12 06:31 pm UTC
Re: A humbe comment from a total plebe - [info]kindest_demon, 2004-05-12 06:46 pm UTC
Re: A humbe comment from a total plebe - [info]bardic_feline, 2004-05-12 06:54 pm UTC
Re: A humbe comment from a total plebe - [info]shoiryu, 2004-05-12 07:22 pm UTC
Re: A humbe comment from a total plebe - [info]phosfate, 2004-05-12 08:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2004-05-12 09:33 pm UTC
Re: A humbe comment from a total plebe - [info]kindest_demon, 2004-05-13 12:16 am UTC
Re: A humbe comment from a total plebe - [info]loafing_oaf, 2004-05-13 11:04 pm UTC
Re: A humbe comment from a total plebe - [info]kindest_demon, 2004-05-18 05:32 pm UTC
Re: A humbe comment from a total plebe - [info]melange, 2004-05-12 06:49 pm UTC
Re: A humbe comment from a total plebe - [info]bardic_feline, 2004-05-12 07:00 pm UTC
Re: A humbe comment from a total plebe - [info]bardic_feline, 2004-05-12 09:51 pm UTC
Re: A humbe comment from a total plebe - ataniell93, 2004-05-12 07:15 pm UTC
Re: A humbe comment from a total plebe - [info]melange, 2004-05-12 07:50 pm UTC
Re: A humbe comment from a total plebe - [info]sagralisse, 2004-05-12 08:21 pm UTC
Re: A humbe comment from a total plebe - [info]bardic_feline, 2004-05-12 08:27 pm UTC
... - [info]sagralisse, 2004-05-12 08:41 pm UTC
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*hums the "I Hate Ann Coulter Song"* - [info]pyratejenni, 2004-05-13 12:41 am UTC
Re: *hums the "I Hate Ann Coulter Song"* - [info]melange, 2004-05-13 01:32 am UTC
Re: *hums the "I Hate Ann Coulter Song"* - [info]crickets, 2004-05-13 07:57 am UTC
Re: *hums the "I Hate Ann Coulter Song"* - (Anonymous), 2004-05-13 10:02 am UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]eiviiaru, 2004-05-12 03:12 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]rann, 2004-05-12 03:15 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]eiviiaru, 2004-05-12 05:59 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]rann, 2004-05-12 08:53 pm UTC
Maybe you'll listen to someone who's more libertarian, because.... - [info]bishounenhuntrs, 2004-05-24 12:01 am UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]oulangi, 2004-05-12 02:02 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]melange, 2004-05-12 02:32 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]oulangi, 2004-05-12 02:57 pm UTC
Do we need a Metawank community? - [info]apoplexia, 2004-05-12 03:59 pm UTC
Re: Do we need a Metawank community? - [info]ashenmote, 2004-05-12 04:15 pm UTC
Re: Do we need a Metawank community? - [info]snacky, 2004-05-12 04:19 pm UTC
Re: Do we need a Metawank community? - [info]ashenmote, 2004-05-12 05:42 pm UTC
Re: Do we need a Metawank community? - [info]sagralisse, 2004-05-12 08:25 pm UTC
Re: Do we need a Metawank community? - [info]apoplexia, 2004-05-12 04:21 pm UTC
Re: Do we need a Metawank community? - [info]ashenmote, 2004-05-12 05:14 pm UTC
Alpha male - [info]wankprophet, 2004-05-12 05:46 pm UTC
... - [info]ashenmote, 2004-05-12 06:03 pm UTC
... - [info]wankprophet, 2004-05-12 06:11 pm UTC
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... - [info]ashenmote, 2004-05-13 12:10 am UTC
... - [info]snacky, 2004-05-12 08:28 pm UTC
... - [info]wankprophet, 2004-05-12 09:04 pm UTC
Re: Do we need a Metawank community? - nakannimi, 2004-05-12 06:14 pm UTC
Re: Do we need a Metawank community? - [info]bardic_feline, 2004-05-12 06:39 pm UTC
Re: Do we need a Metawank community? - [info]eiviiaru, 2004-05-12 05:51 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]rann, 2004-05-12 04:07 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]shoiryu, 2004-05-12 04:58 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]rann, 2004-05-12 08:50 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]shoiryu, 2004-05-12 09:05 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]rann, 2004-05-12 09:07 pm UTC
... - [info]shoiryu, 2004-05-12 09:19 pm UTC
... - [info]rann, 2004-05-12 09:24 pm UTC
... - [info]backfromspace, 2004-05-13 03:08 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]crickets, 2004-05-13 08:04 am UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]anatsuno, 2004-05-12 06:05 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]oulangi, 2004-05-13 05:03 am UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]ladysorka, 2004-05-12 06:38 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]bardic_feline, 2004-05-12 06:36 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]jyuu, 2004-05-14 01:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]backfromspace, 2004-05-13 03:04 am UTC
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Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]virago, 2004-05-14 01:39 am UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - meshou, 2004-05-13 01:50 am UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]melange, 2004-05-13 02:12 am UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - meshou, 2004-05-13 06:01 am UTC
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Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - (Anonymous), 2004-05-12 03:06 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]sagralisse, 2004-05-12 08:32 pm UTC
Sexy FW All Male Smackdown Squad reporting for duty - [info]apoplexia, 2004-05-12 08:53 pm UTC
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Re: Sexy FW All Male Smackdown Squad reporting for duty - [info]apoplexia, 2004-05-12 10:56 pm UTC
Re: Sexy FW All Male Smackdown Squad reporting for duty - [info]sagralisse, 2004-05-12 11:08 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - (Anonymous), 2004-05-12 09:00 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]apoplexia, 2004-05-12 09:35 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]notjo, 2004-05-13 04:12 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]sagralisse, 2004-05-13 07:50 pm UTC
Re: Count me amongst the trolls. - [info]notjo, 2004-05-14 03:44 am UTC

[info]hylian_shadow
2004-05-12 10:32 am UTC (link)
so now, take me out of context..

Silly me. I was under the impression that one must have a context before one can be taken out of it.

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[info]jrs1980
2004-05-12 11:04 am UTC (link)
The first light hint of wank comes from Darkwing Dork, who says:
I think Mr. Moore might be a little... intimidated to appear in a film titled Micheal Moore Hates America.


Okay, what? They're talking about the guy who's first foray into mainstream America was a little film called "Roger & Me". Y'know, that one film that was focused on his scorn for a man named Roger Smith, whom he'd tried to interview (read: insult) multiple times. He practically showed a picture of him with little devil horns drawn in in the epilouge.

I mean, it wasn't like a sequel to "Starsky & Hutch".

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[info]bohicamouse
2004-05-13 12:35 am UTC (link)
was focused on his scorn for a man named Roger Smith

Oh, come on, how can anyone not like Big O?

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(no subject) - [info]mastervex, 2004-05-13 02:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]crickets, 2004-05-13 08:07 am UTC

[info]frodaish
2004-05-12 12:11 pm UTC (link)
The reason they can't get past the title is well, Michael Moore Hates America can certainly be misleading in a HUGE way.

Taking on an asshole by becoming an asshole is ridiculous.

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[info]snacky
2004-05-12 04:18 pm UTC (link)
I really hate to say it, but shouldn't this be in [info]otf_wank? Or seeing the amount of metawank going on upthread, maybe it should go to [info]i_wank! Heh


::ducks and runs::

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[info]apoplexia
2004-05-12 04:24 pm UTC (link)
Okay, we've got the obligatory demarcation dispute, what else are we still missing?

Have we had the mean girls yet, [info]snacky?

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(no subject) - [info]snacky, 2004-05-12 04:30 pm UTC

[info]bardic_feline
2004-05-12 06:42 pm UTC (link)
Seconded. On both counts.

*Dives behind couch*

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[info]eilan
2004-05-12 05:42 pm UTC (link)
I find it a LOT more wanky that there even is a project like Micheal Moore Hates America.

Then there could also be a movie titled Eilan Hates Germany, as I don't love every aspect of my country. And if I had the money, who knows, maybe I'd even make a movie on everything that goes wrong in Germany...

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[info]bubosquared
2004-05-12 06:03 pm UTC (link)
If I have any money left over after I make "Melle Hates Belgium", I'll send it to you.

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COMPLETE comment this time ... - [info]bubosquared, 2004-05-12 09:01 pm UTC
Re: COMPLETE comment this time ... - [info]smo, 2004-05-12 09:22 pm UTC
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... I suspect people won't see this comment, but hey.
[info]tiasian
2004-05-12 07:29 pm UTC (link)
... I'd never really heard of Michael Moore until recently. Probably once or twice on TV sometime in HS but...

Uh, well, my biggest impression of him came from reading something in one of his books* about how he asked one of the Bush siblings what she thought of her brothers being killers. Granted, he said that he felt bad about that afterwards, but I have to say that now I think of him as somebody willing to dismiss social graces - and rather more importantly, other people's feelings - to make a political point.

In other words, what a dick.




*: my family has his books around. We're OMFGSOFARLEFT or something.

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Re: ... I suspect people won't see this comment, but hey. - [info]tiasian, 2004-05-12 07:36 pm UTC
Re: ... I suspect people won't see this comment, but hey. - [info]smo, 2004-05-12 07:49 pm UTC
Re: ... I suspect people won't see this comment, but hey. - [info]tiasian, 2004-05-12 07:54 pm UTC
Re: ... I suspect people won't see this comment, but hey. - [info]smo, 2004-05-12 08:12 pm UTC
Re: ... I suspect people won't see this comment, but hey. - [info]eiviiaru, 2004-05-12 09:02 pm UTC
Re: ... I suspect people won't see this comment, but hey. - [info]oysteria, 2004-05-12 09:18 pm UTC
Re: ... I suspect people won't see this comment, but hey. - [info]smo, 2004-05-12 09:24 pm UTC
Re: ... I suspect people won't see this comment, but hey. - [info]oysteria, 2004-05-12 10:25 pm UTC
Re: ... I suspect people won't see this comment, but hey. - [info]smo, 2004-05-12 10:56 pm UTC
Re: ... I suspect people won't see this comment, but hey. - [info]elkins, 2004-05-13 04:23 am UTC

[info]shoiryu
2004-05-12 07:34 pm UTC (link)
So, to sum up.

Michael Moore is decidedly a wanky asshole. His intentions do not initially seem bad, but he really tends to whip it out and get going fast when he's excited about something. I'm definitely a liberal, and I don't like him, don't really agree with his methods, and rather wish he'd sit down and shut up and leave the investigative stuff to people who're better, more clever, and can keep it in their damn pants.

However.

The usual arguement/accusation of "so-and-so hates America because they're questioning the people in power!" is getting amazingly old, not to mention it IS a knee-jerk reaction from certain political orientations! That's inescapable.

Spooge on all sides here, and it's chest deep.

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Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]bardic_feline, 2004-05-12 07:38 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]shoiryu, 2004-05-12 07:42 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]bardic_feline, 2004-05-12 07:45 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]smo, 2004-05-12 07:47 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]shoiryu, 2004-05-12 07:55 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]smo, 2004-05-12 08:12 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]shoiryu, 2004-05-12 08:13 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]smo, 2004-05-12 08:15 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]bardic_feline, 2004-05-12 08:23 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2004-05-12 08:28 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]bardic_feline, 2004-05-12 08:31 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2004-05-12 10:47 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]bardic_feline, 2004-05-12 08:01 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]cleolinda, 2004-05-12 09:31 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]bardic_feline, 2004-05-12 09:34 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]shoiryu, 2004-05-12 09:34 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]bardic_feline, 2004-05-12 09:44 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]cleolinda, 2004-05-12 10:27 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]bardic_feline, 2004-05-12 10:36 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]cleolinda, 2004-05-12 10:40 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]bardic_feline, 2004-05-12 10:46 pm UTC
Re: Oh dear...and it doesn't help that I'm shorter than most... - [info]cleolinda, 2004-05-12 10:47 pm UTC
Just a suggestion
[info]iczer6
2004-05-12 10:11 pm UTC (link)
How about creating a new community for politcal wanks?

Mainly because A I don't think politics are a fandom, and B every time it gets brought up it just dissolves into a hotbed of unfunny snarking, superiority complexes, victim complexes, and just plain old assholish behavior.

And there's no chance of me getting porn!

So I propose we create a separate community and call it Political-Wank or something like that, so those of us who don't care, and are so sick of seeing the same fights, can go back to pointing and laughing at the HP and LoTR and Yaoi fandoms.

Any takers?



Icz

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Re: Just a suggestion - [info]rann, 2004-05-12 10:17 pm UTC
Re: Just a suggestion - [info]vasaris, 2004-05-12 10:41 pm UTC
Re: Just a suggestion - [info]rann, 2004-05-12 10:47 pm UTC
Re: Just a suggestion - [info]vasaris, 2004-05-12 11:11 pm UTC
Re: Just a suggestion - [info]rann, 2004-05-12 11:15 pm UTC
Re: Just a suggestion - [info]iczer6, 2004-05-13 01:08 am UTC
Re: Just a suggestion - [info]rann, 2004-05-13 01:56 am UTC
Re: Just a suggestion - [info]iczer6, 2004-05-13 02:01 am UTC
Re: Just a suggestion - [info]rann, 2004-05-13 02:05 am UTC
Re: Just a suggestion - [info]iczer6, 2004-05-13 02:10 am UTC
Re: Just a suggestion - [info]llama_treats, 2004-05-13 03:15 am UTC
Re: Just a suggestion - [info]wankprophet, 2004-05-13 03:17 am UTC
Re: Just a suggestion - [info]llama_treats, 2004-05-13 03:21 am UTC
Re: Just a suggestion - [info]iczer6, 2004-05-13 04:16 am UTC
Want me to give you a code? - [info]wankprophet, 2004-05-13 03:15 am UTC

[info]gjeanz
2004-05-13 09:23 am UTC (link)
I admit to despising Moore. But making a movie with a title like that is just as fucking moronic as he is.

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[info]zana16
2004-05-13 12:56 pm UTC (link)
*ventures out from under her rock to test the weather*

Wha...? Paypal is ev0l now? When--how--oh, fuck it. I'm going back to my rock.

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