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NoraBelle ([info]hackthis) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-05-12 14:00:00


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Entry tags:bnf, fake people, fandom: star trek, sockpuppets, wanking inside the house

When Fandoms Collide or BNF's Attack
Be kind, it's my first wank. Use lube.

The carnage started when EvilDrEm posted a little diddy on her lj to cheer up Laura. It goes like this:

La Fish
Your posts are full of hesitation
Sure makes me wonder
If you know what you're talking 'bout.
La Fish
I wanna keep my reputation
I'm a sensation
But what you post, leaves me in doubt.

Because, La Fish, I can google
And I can follow the same thread.
I can google,
Google woogle
You have no cred.

Oh, La Fish, I can google
Please shut up, you know your wrong.
I can google,
Google woogle
All night long.

[Chorus Repeat To Fade]

Oh, La Fish, I can google....


Sing along, everyone!

Only those involved in this little lovefest know what that is about, but the 'Fish, involved is none other than Leslie Fish, one of the original queen BNF of Star Trek fandom. Apparently she's left the haven of Trek for the craziness of Highlander and they don't like her much there. HL is not known for being kind to newbies, HP/LOTR fans should take notes on how to piss off newbies here.

Enter Jennie, she takes offense at the song and crap being posted about her Trek bud, Leslie and posts about it here. Wank ensues here and here.

The story behind this saga is that Tritorella threw Leslie Fish off her archive. Tritorella + EvilDrEm are friends = song/wank.
The original thread seems have been deleted off Tritorella's lj. But alas, I saved it. It is here.

The deleted reference of "Leslis Fish is no longer archived at the Freedom Fanfiction site. Her stories can now be found here." flys in the face of Tritorella's own ragings of deleted posts *shakes fists* in this post. Where she bemoans the fate of posts friends made about her in defense when nasty people talked bad about her.

As the wank moves to Tritorella's page, then back to EvilDrEm's page -you need a score card to keep up - accusations of stalking, spam attacks and virus bombing are thrown back and forth between the waring BNF's. Then out comes the big guns!

Jennie accuses Tritorella of having - GASP - sockpuppets! However, no one touches that accusation with a ten foot pole. See this as to see why no one disputes it.

The wank was continuing as I post this. It is Trek old geezers versus HL upstarts. May the best fandom win.

EDIT: This was sent to my inbox. It is a LJ post where Tritorella, now known to all as Sockpuppet Queen of All Fandoms, admits she created a bogus LiveJournal to mock a person named Jeylan (see below for more about Jeylan). Can we keep our trolls straight in this fandom?

EDIT #2: This wank took a left turn somewhere near Omaha and has not gotten back on course. What about Leslie Fish and Star Trek fans? **whines** But, I am flexible. TritorellaWank2004 has begun.

To the wanker who sent this gem to my inbox - you rock! I knew there was a good reason I listed my Email address on my Info page. Cuts from this could start a whole new wank. *wipes a tear away for the classic Trek wank that isn't to be, but glad Leslie Fish is still alive*



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[info]mouseybrown
2004-05-12 09:37 pm UTC (link)
Question that's nothing to do with the wanky wank:

Is Tritorella the same Tritorella who appears as a fanfic Googlewhack in Dave Gorman's Googlewhack Adventure?

Question that is to do with the wanky wank:

Why doesn't Highlander like newbies?

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[info]cie_anthy
2004-05-13 01:27 am UTC (link)
Is Tritorella the same Tritorella who appears as a fanfic Googlewhack in Dave Gorman's Googlewhack Adventure?

Yeah, she is.

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(no subject) - [info]mouseybrown, 2004-05-13 12:38 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-05-12 10:51 pm UTC (link)
The HL newbie thing? I was in the fandom for 2 seconds about 3 years ago. I left ages ago for the love of two good women: Willow and Tara. The HL BNF's tend to eat their young ones for breakfast has been my experience unless they are a friend of a friend of a friend of someone they like. Get my drift?

The atmosphere on the HL lists in worse. It is a virtual fuck fest every 6 months. (Mention the word Jeylan, go head I dare ya). Who knows what starts it up. But every fandom has its crap. It's the way the world revolves.

I got here via a post on someone's lj, so I don't have a Journalfen account. The word about the wank has gotten out! :)

If I beg real pretty, will someone give me a code for an account? *bats eyes*

gabixenafen@lj

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(Anonymous)
2004-05-12 11:17 pm UTC (link)
The HL newbie thing? I was in the fandom for 2 seconds about 3 years ago.

That sounds like me, only I was there for about ten seconds.

The HL BNF's tend to eat their young ones for breakfast has been my experience unless they are a friend of a friend of a friend of someone they like. Get my drift?

Oh, boy, you got that right. And I've got the burn marks to prove it. I was NOT a friendfriend or whatever, and hoo boy. I got bombed in *two* fandoms because of it (HL followed me to TS and/or TS followed to HL, but it was the same group of people)

The atmosphere on the HL lists in worse. It is a virtual fuck fest every 6 months. (Mention the word Jeylan, go head I dare ya). Who knows what starts it up. But every fandom has its crap. It's the way the world revolves.

Yeah, and the HL crap is the worst.

Kelex

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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-05-13 12:27 am UTC
Hey!!!! *giggle* - (Anonymous), 2004-05-14 02:53 am UTC

[info]llama_treats
2004-05-12 11:51 pm UTC (link)
I sent a code to the e-mail address you have listed on LJ.

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(no subject) - [info]gabixenafen, 2004-05-13 06:58 am UTC

[info]janegraddell
2004-05-13 01:02 am UTC (link)
That makes me sad. Highlander was my first on-line fandom, and I'm still in touch with not a few of the old folks from the glory days of alt.tv.highlander. I know ATH hit the skids big-time after the show went off the air, but I'm not really up with the fandom itself anymore and haven't been since 1999 or therabouts. I hadn't really realized how unfriendly a reputation they have now. Too bad.

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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-05-13 01:14 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-13 01:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-05-13 02:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]majinkarp, 2004-05-13 03:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-05-13 04:03 am UTC

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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-05-13 04:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]endoftime, 2004-05-13 04:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gabixenafen, 2004-05-13 05:57 pm UTC
WOW! Prima Donna? - [info]verdefern, 2004-05-13 04:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rinoared, 2004-05-13 02:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]janegraddell, 2004-05-13 02:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-05-13 04:43 am UTC
Re: This is so wrong - [info]rosalita, 2004-05-13 06:08 am UTC
Re: This is so wrong - [info]janegraddell, 2004-05-14 12:38 am UTC
*blinks* - [info]kymscrazy, 2004-05-13 09:52 am UTC
Re: *blinks* - [info]janegraddell, 2004-05-14 12:25 am UTC
*doubleblinks* - [info]kymscrazy, 2004-05-14 06:46 am UTC
Re: *doubleblinks* - [info]janegraddell, 2004-05-15 12:35 am UTC
Re: *doubleblinks* - [info]kymscrazy, 2004-05-15 06:55 am UTC
Re: *blinks* - [info]ari_, 2004-05-14 04:50 pm UTC
Re: *blinks* - [info]janegraddell, 2004-05-15 12:56 am UTC

[info]janegraddell
2004-05-12 10:59 pm UTC (link)
I'm trying to find a tactful and neutral way to describe my past experiences with She of the Many Psuedonyms, aka Tritorella. Unfortunately, all that comes to mind is "batshit insane" and "OMG run, run now."

So, so glad I departed from the main of Highlander fandom before her arrival. So, so regretful that I did not depart from Due South with the same good timing.

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[info]kijikun
2004-05-12 11:04 pm UTC (link)
Wait are you sure your not describing J-blo?

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-12 11:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]verdefern, 2004-05-13 04:07 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-13 04:29 am UTC
Re: - [info]verdefern, 2004-05-13 05:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pfeffermuse, 2004-05-13 05:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jerry_ds_girl, 2004-07-17 05:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pfeffermuse, 2004-07-19 05:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jerry_ds_girl, 2004-07-20 03:12 am UTC
The RP Sockpuppets, all 600 + of them - (Anonymous), 2004-07-27 09:08 pm UTC
Re: The RP Sockpuppets, all 600 + of them - (Anonymous), 2004-07-27 09:11 pm UTC
Re: The RP Sockpuppets, all 600 + of them - [info]amedia, 2004-08-11 06:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-07-16 12:17 am UTC

[info]kirsch
2004-05-12 11:36 pm UTC (link)
is one of them honisoit? because I thought I recognized her--and I couldn't agree more. Run fast, run far, just. RUN.

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(no subject) - [info]janegraddell, 2004-05-13 12:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kirsch, 2004-05-13 01:15 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-13 01:52 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-13 02:07 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-13 02:27 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-13 02:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eag, 2004-05-16 12:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ririka, 2004-05-13 04:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dhaunea, 2004-05-13 10:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ymfaery, 2004-05-14 04:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eag, 2004-05-16 12:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-22 11:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ymfaery, 2004-05-23 11:48 am UTC
Closing Up Shop? - (Anonymous), 2004-05-25 04:01 am UTC
Re: Closing Up Shop? - [info]ymfaery, 2004-05-25 02:17 pm UTC
Jeylan - (Anonymous), 2004-05-13 05:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]elanor_durall, 2004-07-16 08:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]janegraddell, 2004-05-13 02:06 am UTC

[info]kijikun
2004-05-12 11:01 pm UTC (link)
HL eats newbies? *blinks* I don't have bite marks in me (maybe a few nibble marks but those I like....

And I have a good feeling you've left alot out and slanted a few things but so it goes.
Give me a good HL characteriztion wank any day.

I'll go back to doing admin stuff on hl_springfever

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[info]xeno4eyes
2004-05-13 12:44 am UTC (link)
Me neither though I admit that I stayed in the wading pool.

*leers at icon* Hey, there, Methos. Have I mentioned that I have a thing for older men wielding swords?

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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-05-13 12:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]janegraddell, 2004-05-13 03:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-05-13 05:07 am UTC
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[info]kijikun
2004-05-13 05:10 am UTC (link)
Give me a good HL characteriztion wank any day over this sort of wank.

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[info]phosfate
2004-05-12 11:59 pm UTC (link)
Good to know Leslie Fish isn't dead. I guess.

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[info]arielchan
2004-05-13 12:25 am UTC (link)
*puzzled* I like Leslie. I mean, okay, she usually flubs at least one line and her rhyming isn't always the best, but she'd done some pretty witty little songs. (I got addicted when I heard "Mis-Conceptions".)

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[info]yankthewank
2004-05-13 12:40 am UTC (link)
As a member of HL fandom I have run across Leslie and I don't get why she is so disliked. Ok so she's a bit of a know-it-all when it comes to HL canon but so is much of the rest of the fandom. So who decided that Leslie is TEH EVOL?

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(no subject) - [info]azarias, 2004-05-13 05:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]yankthewank, 2004-05-13 08:51 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-14 04:47 am UTC

[info]morgothik
2004-05-13 01:40 am UTC (link)
Fnord! Wank from the up-and-coming Geritol generation. Peri-menopausal? post-menopausal? I got caught in the way-back machine for a minute.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-13 01:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]morgothik, 2004-05-13 02:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2004-05-13 04:15 am UTC
Behold! - [info]morgothik, 2004-05-13 03:29 pm UTC

[info]endoftime
2004-05-13 04:58 am UTC (link)
EDIT: This was sent to my inbox. It is a LJ post where Tritorella, now known to all as Sockpuppet Queen of All Fandoms, admits she created a bogus LiveJournal to mock a person named Jeylan (see below for more about Jeylan). Can we keep our trolls straight in this fandom?

The fake J-Blo journal was comedy gold. No one actually believed it was her, but it was side-splittingly funny anyway.

And isn't this supposed to be a pro-mocking community?

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Re: This is so wrong - [info]rosalita, 2004-05-13 06:04 am UTC
Re: This is so wrong - [info]snacky, 2004-05-13 06:16 am UTC
P.S. - [info]snacky, 2004-05-13 06:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosalita, 2004-05-13 06:20 am UTC
P.S. to your P.S. - [info]rosalita, 2004-05-13 06:43 am UTC
Re: Tritorella - [info]anglinsbees, 2004-05-13 11:36 am UTC
Re: P.S. to your P.S. - [info]snacky, 2004-05-13 03:56 pm UTC
Re: P.S. to your P.S. - [info]rosalita, 2004-05-14 01:50 am UTC
Re: P.S. to your P.S. - (Anonymous), 2004-05-18 03:09 am UTC
Re: P.S. to your P.S. - (Anonymous), 2004-05-18 07:54 am UTC
Re: P.S. to your P.S. - (Anonymous), 2004-05-18 10:54 am UTC
Re: This is so wrong - [info]kijikun, 2004-05-13 06:27 am UTC
Re: This is so wrong - [info]endoftime, 2004-05-13 04:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-13 06:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-05-13 06:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gabixenafen, 2004-05-13 06:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-05-13 07:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iamnotyourmuse, 2004-05-13 07:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosalita, 2004-05-13 07:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]endoftime, 2004-05-13 04:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gabixenafen, 2004-05-13 05:31 pm UTC
Re: - [info]endoftime, 2004-05-14 04:36 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-13 05:27 pm UTC
Impartial? Uh-Un - [info]zorrorojo, 2004-05-13 10:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosalita, 2004-05-14 02:04 am UTC

[info]azarias
2004-05-13 05:21 am UTC (link)
I've been offline a few days and won't really be back for a few days yet, so I'm doing a buzz-through of the wank. But if someone would like to peek into Critical Edge, where many of the names mentioned in the OP hang out, there may or may not be further wank to be found. Don't have time to check myself-- happy hunting!

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-14 10:30 am UTC
Due South
(Anonymous)
2004-05-13 10:17 am UTC (link)
Wank is priceless, for everything else there's Mastercard.

This made me fall over and nearly pee my pants. I quote Tritorella:

"What this is all about, about control. Controlling what their victims think, what their victims do, who the victims interacts with. It's about controlling opinions about their victims - and about these people (shall we call a spade a spade and name them as stalkers? why the fuck not, they love to use the word so loosely, let's use it when it's actually true) themselves. In fandom, it means the stalker wants to be the only to say which lists, which fandom a victim is involved in, to what extent, and with whom and on what basis - what they read, argue about, have opinions on, like, don't like, praise or deride."

She should know, she wrote the fucking book on stalking.

After finding out about this wank on a flist, I wondered what I could possibly say that hasn't already been said. I remember Tritorella Crushergal Honi Soit from dS fandom. The woman's had some many names I cannot keep track. But changing pen names isn't a crime, having a shitload of sockpuppets should be. Since we've all seen that list, I'll move on.

Then, I remembered this Open Letter to Due South fans by a dS BNF about the Tritorella incident. (In the letter Tritorella is "X"). And to my surprise, the post is still up. (http://kellie.mrks.org/fic/ds/openletter.htm) It explains most of what happened in dS fandom when Tritorella, then Honi Soit appeared. After the 'incident' she fucked off to HL fandom, where it looks like more shit happened. Then to anime? I guess she'll plow thru every fandom out there until there's none left.

I'd thought I'd bring out some old wank to beget new wank.

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Google Woogle
(Anonymous)
2004-05-13 12:21 pm UTC (link)
I can google
Please shut up, you know your wrong.
I can google,
Google woogle
All night long.


I did just that and found this? (http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/9394.html?thread=415922)

She had an account here on Journalfen? She was a member of f_w? Running away in horror screaming.

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[info]zana16
2004-05-13 01:04 pm UTC (link)
*blink*

What is this "Fandom meltdown of 1999" that is referred to?

Or maybe I don't want to know.

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(no subject) - [info]eag, 2004-05-13 07:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-14 04:33 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-18 03:12 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-05-13 01:46 pm UTC (link)
I hate to intrude, but I just wanted to say that the dear Tritro-fucking-rella has moved into the anime fandom and is causing quite a headache in there.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-14 05:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-14 08:49 pm UTC
Linkie? - (Anonymous), 2004-05-17 05:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-07-09 09:12 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-05-13 05:51 pm UTC (link)
Actually, what started the whole thing was that Leslis Fish wrote and posted an unauthorized sequel to someone else's story. Parts of the original story were incorporated, from a different character's POV, and then Ms. Fish took the story in a whole different direction. The original author was not happy with this. Ms. Fish defended her sequel (and it was clearly labeled as such) by saying that it was common in other fandoms to write and post - and even do zines of - unauthorized sequels to other writers' stories, so what was the big deal? The poem was written at about that time, as a stress-reliever for the people involved in the whole conflict.

At this point, the archivist hosting Ms. Fish's work declined to continue hosting her stories (this was her second unauthorized sequel in the HL fandom) - since the archivist was paying for the site out of her own pocket and doing the coding necessary to post the stories, it was certainly her right to do so. It is my understanding that Ms. Fish found hosting elsewhere.

Just for the record - I am an impartial outside viewer to the whole thing. I have my own opnions about the whole unauthorized sequel issue if you want to hear them (to sum up, really dislike the idea - get permission if you want to play with someone else's universe). I am a real person, not a sock puppet, and I've been in fandom since 1997 (in HL fandom since 99 and I'm still alive). I just don't have a JournalFen account (actually wandered in here from the HP Chan Wank when I saw the subject header) but I'll gladly post my name to this.

Diana Williams


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Not impartial at all - [info]zorrorojo, 2004-05-13 09:56 pm UTC
??? - (Anonymous), 2004-05-13 10:57 pm UTC
Re: ??? - [info]zorrorojo, 2004-05-13 11:35 pm UTC
Re: ??? - (Anonymous), 2004-05-13 11:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]elijahdprophet, 2004-05-13 11:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-05-14 12:12 am UTC

[info]elijahdprophet
2004-05-13 05:56 pm UTC (link)
What this is all about, about control. Controlling what their victims think, what their victims do, who the victims interacts with. It's about controlling opinions about their victims

Oh, wont someone please think about the chil...wait, these are grown ps calling themselves "victims" because of a bit of name calling. boo friggin hoo.

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(no subject) - [info]zorrorojo, 2004-05-13 09:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]yankthewank, 2004-05-13 11:04 pm UTC
Re: - [info]elijahdprophet, 2004-05-13 11:14 pm UTC

[info]kijikun
2004-05-13 11:35 pm UTC (link)
Uhm...yea hiding back in my end of the wading pool now.

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