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Limyaael ([info]limyaael) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-05-16 19:55:00


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Current mood:energetic

Stop the keyboards! Did you know that fanfic is "horrible" and "distasteful?"
(Note to self: Stop doing random LJ interest searches. You have enough to do with your life).

Over on LJ, there's a community called stopthefic. Its userinfo starts out this way:

Do you hate fanfic? So do we! We hate it, we think it is the worst atrocity since Barbra Streisand, and this community is for those of you who share our views on this unnecessary evil that is pervading our lives on a daily basis.

We're creative types who prefer originality in writing and we hate to see the creations of fellow artists and writers ruined by talentless individuals who place their original characters in disgusting or just stupid situations. Our basic motto: be original!!


Yes, because three exclamation points at the end of a sentence is a way to make people take you seriously.

I honestly am not sure whether or not this is a joke, but if it is, nobody's admitting it, and this introductory post is just too damn beautiful (and wanky).

Most of these characters are copyrighted, thus when someone posts stories all over the Web using the names and likenesses of these characters, they are probably doing something illegal, and definitely doing something distasteful.

So she couldn't be bothered finding out if it was actually illegal?

Then there's the story of how one person's life was changed for the worse by Elmo fanfic:

I came across what I assumed would be a clean, family-friendly, smut-free tribute to the furry red guy with the dainty orange nose, but no...it was...sorry, this is still so difficult to talk about...it was a form of muppet porn cleverly disguised with the name "muppet slash". Thinking that this was some sort of tribute to Elmo by Slash, the multi-talented guitarist formerly of Guns 'N Roses, currently collaborating with Scott Weiland in Velvet Revolver, I clicked on the link, and my innocence was instantly shattered.

Well, all right, that's a highly "original" interpretation of slash (and as Azzie the Anon says, this one's probably a troll). The rest of the posts and the rest of the community seem entirely in wank earnest.

I always thought that when people claimed to be traumatized by badfic it was, you know, a joke.

ETA: Oooh! Anonymouse tells it like it is!




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[info]khym_chanur
2004-05-17 03:01 am UTC (link)
Do you hate fanfic? So do we! We hate it, we think it is the worst atrocity since Barbra Streisand, and this community is for those of you who share our views on this unnecessary evil that is pervading our lives on a daily basis.

Y'know, I hate to say this, but... if you don't like, don't read it!

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(no subject) - [info]arseted, 2004-05-17 05:12 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-05-17 03:05 am UTC (link)
Thinking that this was some sort of tribute to Elmo by Slash, the multi-talented guitarist formerly of Guns 'N Roses,

... there are no words.

-- Azzie

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[info]seether
2004-05-17 03:24 am UTC (link)
Yes. Because when I know when I think of Slash, the first thing that comes to mind is an Elmo tribute.

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(Anonymous)
2004-05-17 03:29 am UTC (link)
Most of these characters are copyrighted, thus when someone posts stories all over the Web using the names and likenesses of these characters, they are probably doing something illegal, and definitely doing something distasteful.

OH NOES!

Guess the victims better go out and hire themselves teh intarweb lawyer (http://www.ljdrama.org/archives/000814.html). I hear his case against LJDrama got settled out of court.

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Re: blatant provocation - [info]julia, 2004-05-17 04:51 am UTC
Re: blatant provocation - [info]toxictattoo, 2004-05-17 04:54 am UTC

redwarrior
2004-05-17 03:36 am UTC (link)
God, this has to be a joke. >D The "Elmo Slash" referring to the Guns'n'Roses guitarist wiht the Muppet has to be one of the FUNNIEST things I've seen. >D

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[info]banal_o_rama
2004-05-17 03:36 am UTC (link)
I like that Real Person Poetry is OK, but RPS is not. Time to go write some sonnets about Alton Brown's viscosity and post them there!

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OT - [info]danceswithelvis, 2004-05-17 06:58 am UTC
Re: OT - [info]banal_o_rama, 2004-05-17 07:02 am UTC
Re: OT - [info]danceswithelvis, 2004-05-17 12:07 pm UTC
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[info]iczer6
2004-05-17 03:37 am UTC (link)
and this community is for those of you who share our views on this unnecessary evil that is pervading our lives on a daily basis.

'Prevading their everyday lives'? What? HOW?

Did the fanfic move next door and start playing 'Free Bird' at all hours of the night?

Does fanfic invite itself in, drink all the beer and leave the cans in the yard?

Has FF.net hacked their computer so they can only read Sesame Street slash?


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[info]alina_kalime
2004-05-17 03:53 am UTC (link)
*sporfle*

You know, every time I hear people say that fanfic is evil/illegal/etc., I can't help but think of tabloid stories. I mean, a lot of those have got to be fanfiction too, and they're still running around. At least fanfic misprepresents pretend characters (RPF excluded).

But yea: I think their beef is bad fanfic more than anything else, which I can understand. But I think saying "OMG IT'S ALL EVIIIIL!" is going just a wee bit overboard.

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(Anonymous)
2004-05-17 04:00 am UTC (link)
I think this says it all:

A friend who we'll call "A" (no names mentioned) recently introduced me to the horrors of fanfic, and my life has changed for the worse in so many ways. I can no longer watch my beloved cartoons without picturing some sick, sweaty, baldheaded 45 year old guy sitting in a shabby basment appartment wearing grey, pizza spattered sweatpants and typing sick, sexual things about my favorite characters. It truly disgusts me to even imagine it.

Okay-dokey, let's talk about a complete misunderstanding of the fanfic community . . . and let's hate these invented, totally inaccurate stereotypes, shall we?

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[info]ichigatsu
2004-05-17 04:04 am UTC (link)
The opposite happened to me. I remember googling for "incubus slash" and got disappointed when, instead of giving me links to stories about the members of incubus getting it on, I got links to news articles about incubus, and Slash the Guns n' Roses guitarist.

One person's smut is another person's trauma, I guess.

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[info]melange
2004-05-17 04:08 am UTC (link)
You know, I don't even care that this is obviously a joke, I still want to ban these people from the human race. Who's with me?

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I'm sorry, but it had to be done.
[info]llama_treats
2004-05-17 04:22 am UTC (link)

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Re: I'm sorry, but it had to be done. - [info]singe, 2004-05-17 04:33 am UTC
Re: I'm sorry, but it had to be done. - [info]arseted, 2004-05-17 05:01 am UTC
Re: I'm sorry, but it had to be done. - [info]llama_treats, 2004-05-17 05:05 am UTC
Re: I'm sorry, but it had to be done. - [info]arseted, 2004-05-17 07:55 am UTC
Re: I'm sorry, but it had to be done. - [info]prettyveela, 2004-05-17 10:41 am UTC
Re: I'm sorry, but it had to be done. - [info]wakkymse, 2004-05-18 12:40 am UTC

[info]smo
2004-05-17 04:28 am UTC (link)
Thinking that this was some sort of tribute to Elmo by Slash, the multi-talented guitarist formerly of Guns 'N Roses, currently collaborating with Scott Weiland in Velvet Revolver, I clicked on the link, and my innocence was instantly shattered.

That has got to be a joke. Got to be. Anyone who finds Slash the guitarist less traumatic than slash the genre has got to be pulling our collective invisicock.

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[info]toxictattoo
2004-05-17 04:33 am UTC (link)
... maybe I shouldn't read it if I don't like it, but maybe you shouldn't make something so horrible sounds so damn intriguing.

Uh...wha?

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[info]shoiryu
2004-05-17 04:58 am UTC (link)
Sure, okay. *goes back to writing Van Helsing slash*

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(Anonymous)
2004-05-17 04:59 am UTC (link)
"I always thought that when people claimed to be traumatized by badfic it was, you know, a joke."

You have obviously never read that masterpiece of fic, "Chibi-Usa's Seventh Birthday".

If you don't know it--you don't want to.


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Puh-lease. - [info]kymscrazy, 2004-05-17 11:34 am UTC
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(Anonymous)
2004-05-17 05:02 am UTC (link)
He he he, as it says in the info:

Have a sense of humor! Yes, we are serious in our hatred of fanfic, but even we'll laugh at the really bad stuff (well, laugh at the writers, anyway). So sit back and enjoy.

Yeah, it's kinda a joke, but there are some people out there just morally opposed to fan fiction, get over it. That Elmo Slash icon is great, by the way, LOL

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Get a new straw man. - [info]cesare, 2004-05-17 09:56 am UTC
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[info]cousinjean
2004-05-17 05:29 am UTC (link)
Heh. I think the wankiest thing about this comm is their guidelines:

3. Feel free to debate the merits of fanfic. We welcome fanfic writers to share their views, but we do not welcome them to share their stories. Healthy debate is encouraged, but please, be respectful (see Rule #4).

4. Be respectful of our views and our hatred of this medium, and also be respectful of the views of others who may disagree with us.


Yet their info and posts are full of insults and namecalling, and when somebody dared to point out that most fic writers are female, they got a pretty snotty reply. Way to be respectful and encourage healthy debate!

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[info]eris
2004-05-17 05:40 am UTC (link)
See, whenever people bitch about fanfic, I have the incredible urge to point out that so much of "literature" is glorified fanfic. Joyce's Ulysses? Greek myth fanfic. Paradise Lost? Bible fanfic. Heck, Woolf's Orlando is pure RPF. So, uh, bitch, please.

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[info]medievaloracle
2004-05-17 05:51 am UTC (link)
But they're all for the Roy Orbison in clingwrap stories. Riiiiight.

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Dubya Tee Eff - [info]wakkymse, 2004-05-18 06:37 am UTC
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[info]starza
2004-05-17 05:54 am UTC (link)
I find it amusing that people bitch and whine how much bad fanfiction is out and say original fic is SO much better. Here's a clue: there's JUST as much bad original fic out there.

Took a creative writing class this semester, and several of the stories were full of 'perfect characters' (Mary Sues/Gary Stus), horrid grammar/spelling errors, unrealistic plots (One of them involved a football player getting drunk, getting into an accident, and mysteriously, he didn't get arrested OR kicked from the team, even though everyone in the school KNEW he was driving drunk), badly written angst, terrible feedback from the class (Someone wrote in one of my stories that 'Rand' wasn't a name and that guys don't have bangs), and that's just covering the icing on this cake.

And guess what? This is a college class too!

Bad writing is bad writing, wheither you're reading/writing fanfiction OR original fiction.

Besides that, no one is really original. Wasn't there something out there that said there's like only a certain number of ideas that people can write on?

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(no subject) - [info]nevadafighter, 2004-05-17 06:32 am UTC
Er... - [info]nevadafighter, 2004-05-17 06:37 am UTC

[info]sistermagpie
2004-05-17 06:23 am UTC (link)
Elmo's nose is dainty??

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(no subject) - [info]cpip, 2004-05-17 03:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2004-05-18 04:19 am UTC
Ugh....
[info]nabiki_gmyw
2004-05-17 06:36 am UTC (link)
/rant on

You know what really bothers me about these vigilante-type websites? Their tendency to butt in other poeple's business. Just what gives anyone the right to impose their point of view on another person? So she thinks fanfic is wrong? Maybe she has a point but...what, exactly, is she trying to achive? To make all fic writers bow down and ask for forgiveness?

She has been a good sport about all of this, but it's all so... pointlesss. WHY waste your time on somethig as inconsequencial as FANFIC? And in such an insulting tone too (I'm talking about the lj info). If they REALLY wanted to have an intelligent conversation about the nature of fanfiction, they shouldn't looked down on their opponents as if they were less than worthy of a keyborad.

Hell, they should try to research fanfiction culture FIRST. I get the impression they have failed to grasp the concept of fanfic. I mean... the slash anecdote just cracked me up. That's just ignorance over the most commonly used terms and too little experience in FF.NET, the mosquito-infested jungle of fanfic archives. Watch out for the piraƱas, they can kill you under 15 seconds.

Sure, I was shocked the first time I saw slash, but since I had already spent some years in the fic game, I got over it rather quickly. After years of stumbling onto Frodo/Sam fics in positions Tolkien never intended, you just kinda... shrug your shoulders and move on.

Besides... it's kind of like an unspoken truth that chances are we'll never get our own book deals or be famous. Mostly... I just write because I wanna write. A tv show strikes my fancy and I say "hey, wouldn't be cool if this or that happened?" If glory and money comes, rock on, but I'm not holding my breath to be the next Stephen King...

/rant off

Boy... that's quite a bit of spooge there... those kleenex, I know I left them somewhere...

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Re: Ugh.... - [info]banal_o_rama, 2004-05-17 06:47 am UTC
Re: Ugh.... - [info]nabiki_gmyw, 2004-05-17 07:24 am UTC
Flamers netiquette - [info]sagralisse, 2004-05-17 06:57 pm UTC
... - [info]marginalsanity, 2004-05-17 09:16 pm UTC
... - [info]nabiki_gmyw, 2004-05-18 09:24 pm UTC
... - [info]marginalsanity, 2004-05-19 07:54 am UTC
Re: Ugh.... - [info]sarajayechan, 2004-05-17 08:55 pm UTC

[info]serai
2004-05-17 06:36 am UTC (link)
I can no longer watch my beloved cartoons without picturing some sick, sweaty, baldheaded 45 year old guy sitting in a shabby basment appartment wearing grey, pizza spattered sweatpants and typing sick, sexual things about my favorite characters. It truly disgusts me to even imagine it.

Wow, someone's got a really filthy mind. I don't know about you, but I don't think about disgusting men jerking off when I'm watching the LOTR movies, no matter how many S/F PWPs I read.

I do love that the comeback to [info]hotpinkdragones's pointing out the fallacy in the above image - that "IV of estrogen" argument. Honey, are you on your period? Because their View-Which-Is-So-Worth-Fighting-For is, in fact, not worth the effort of conjuring up a factual argument.

Lastly, if this is a joke, it's not all that well constructed. If it isn't a joke (which I suspect, as there's so little discernible wit anywhere in evidence), I'd love to know one thing - just what are these people actually doing? I mean, they're going on about "fighting fanfic", but how exactly? By jerking off over their own opinions? Goodness, I'd expect at least a couple of crank pizza deliveries.

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Re: - [info]maereth, 2004-05-17 07:05 pm UTC
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