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Kika ([info]darkvalkyrie) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-06-01 10:34:00


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Current mood:*sporfle!*
Entry tags:karthur strikes again!

Hark! I hear the strains of the waaaaaaaambulance!
Yes, another fanfiction community report. Must be something in the water. And this is trying so hard to grow into a wank.

So there's this Suikoden community called Suikosnark that exists solely for the purpose of snickering at badfic, Mary Sues and other oddities in the fandom. Yeah, like [info]deleterius and [info]marysues and half a dozen others. Nothing new under the sun, right? It gets pretty wanky sometimes, but it's usually kept under ye olde friends locks. So that the spooge doesn't fly everywhere, you know, and we keep the tissues handy just in case.

A little while ago one of the unlocked posts were discovered and a few people got a little perturbed. While the original post itself was definitely wanky in some places (sorry, but I take all PWPs with a grain of salt), there was wank on both sides. Mild, though. It didn't go anywhere until a few members of an RP blog known as the Suikoden Comment Box discovered the community members' ff.net account names and issued a choice smackdown-except-not

"Bad" doesn't even begin to describe this waste of space. If you're looking for an interesting, well-written read, this is certainly not it.

You left out countless "-" throughout, especially in the beginning. It makes your sentences seem like run-ons.

As a side note, thank you ever so for being an avid reader of my Pitas blog. I find it fascinating that a cult such as yours, created in the true KKK-style only to bash people with different sexual orientation and beliefs, would take such an interest in my personal life. My, you seem obsessed. Perhaps you should just join the SCB instead of ripping it off with your own club with black-hearted intentions. Just a thought.

Yours truly,
Izzyfits



.

Then they created an LJ community.

It's entitled "Snark the Snarkists!" and the aims are as follows: For all people who are sick and tired of (or just downright pissed at) all those self-righteous, condescending writers who rejoice in flaming and leaving so-called "constructive" criticism, this is the place to rant about it.

Nothing's happened so far, but the community was just created this morning. I have high hopes already.

ETA: And the first post brings wank. Wow, that wasn't completely predictable or anything.



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[info]skarrow
2004-06-01 06:50 pm UTC (link)
"That so called 'constructive' criticism."

Pers'nally I don't b'lieve in it. Yon folks from the Tabloid papers was in here nigh a week ago looking for The Legendary Concrit, but it's all jes blurry photos and pictures what done been photomashoppitized..

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[info]epanssureves
2004-06-01 07:12 pm UTC (link)
The Concrit is pastede on yay!

Sorry. I keep doing that

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Not an icon, but... - [info]darkvalkyrie, 2004-06-02 06:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]epanssureves, 2004-06-03 12:42 am UTC

[info]snarkbunny
2004-06-01 07:50 pm UTC (link)
How did I not know about this community? (Uhm, I mean suikosnark, not anti_snark.) All this time I'd been snarking about the horrible state of Suikoden fandom and laughing like crazy at bad Suikoden fic (largely the SCB group) in my own journal under a friends filter or on IRC!

*cackles with glee*

And I even seem to remember getting a *cough* review smackdown *cough* from Izzy and groupies back in the day myself... Here I thought they'd finally just taken their business elsewhere.

As for the rational arguments in anti-snark goes... if this is really the SCB people, I'm not sure they can do anything rationally. ;)

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[info]sam_chan
2004-06-01 08:41 pm UTC (link)
Jooooooooin uuuuuuuusssss...

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(no subject) - [info]snarkbunny, 2004-06-01 10:16 pm UTC

[info]kicklecubicle
2004-06-01 09:33 pm UTC (link)
It's weird, but I never thought of Suikoden as having enough badfic to have its own community. I always thought it was like FFTactics and attracted, y'know, the smart people who can spell.

Now, my opinion of the Suikoden fandom was formulated a long time ago when I was younger- just after FFT came out in '98(? IIRC). I was like OMG WOW THIS SUIKODEN STUFF IS LIKE ADVANCED N' STUFF! I hadn't played it, though.

I finally got a chance to play the games a couple years back and I really enjoyed them. Despite that, I never really got into the fandom so I just assumed that the fanfiction was still relatively high quality.

I should know better, given the state of FFT fandom today. Ever since FFTA came out, it's been Sue/Stu/Crap mania.

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(no subject) - [info]darkvalkyrie, 2004-06-01 09:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]snarkbunny, 2004-06-01 10:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ryuudo, 2004-06-01 11:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ryuudo, 2004-06-01 11:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkvalkyrie, 2004-06-01 11:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ryuudo, 2004-06-01 11:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-06-02 06:34 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-06-02 06:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]shinigami_co, 2004-06-02 08:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]charmian, 2004-06-01 11:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]snarkbunny, 2004-06-02 02:32 am UTC
Re: - [info]charmian, 2004-06-02 02:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]shiori, 2004-06-02 01:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]snarkbunny, 2004-06-02 02:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]shinigami_co, 2004-06-02 06:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragomorph, 2004-06-02 08:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dawnswalker, 2004-06-02 03:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kicklecubicle, 2004-06-02 09:46 pm UTC

[info]psychofangirl
2004-06-01 09:57 pm UTC (link)
What is SCB?

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(no subject) - [info]darkvalkyrie, 2004-06-01 09:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]snarkbunny, 2004-06-01 10:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]psychofangirl, 2004-06-02 01:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]snarkbunny, 2004-06-02 02:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]psychofangirl, 2004-06-02 03:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]shinigami_co, 2004-06-02 08:58 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-06-02 09:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]shinigami_co, 2004-06-02 09:42 am UTC

[info]liarliar
2004-06-01 10:39 pm UTC (link)
That's the fun thing about anti- communities. They tend to wind up promoting what they hate.

Yay, anti!

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(no subject) - [info]snarkbunny, 2004-06-01 10:44 pm UTC

[info]sarajayechan
2004-06-01 08:15 pm UTC (link)
Somehow I'm reminded of [info]fandom_goddess.

And at least the replies to that first post aren't all hugs and cuddles and "OMG YOU'RE SO RIGHT SNARKY PEOPLE ARE OMG SO MEEEEN FOR VOICING THEIR OPINIONS". Yeah, sometimes snark CAN go too far and it's never okay to make personal attacks and hurt people just to see em cry. But devoting an ENTIRE COMMUNITY to hating snark? :P

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[info]blue_linnet
2004-06-01 09:47 pm UTC (link)
And you know the community's not going to stick with being 'anti-snark'. I go to a messageboard with a fic section, and there's a thread for talking about your flames. It used to be that people would put up the funny ones and laugh at them (the pairing is love/hate, so we get a lot of stupid flames on ff.net and such) but of course people then started posting about how hurt they were by flames, and it's turned into 'poor baby, of COURSE your fic is great, how dare they say something like that' and people saying they've taken their fic down after receiving a not-so-positive review.

If it stays up, it'll probably just turn into a place for people to wail 'omg she said my characterization was off!! flamerz SUCK!'

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[info]psychofangirl
2004-06-01 09:55 pm UTC (link)
Whoa! About damned time the Suikoden fandom got wanked! Yea, this should be fun.

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[info]ryuudo
2004-06-01 10:57 pm UTC (link)
That is /so/ what I was thinking.

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(no subject) - [info]darkvalkyrie, 2004-06-01 10:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]charmian, 2004-06-01 11:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ixtab, 2004-06-01 11:12 pm UTC
Re: - [info]charmian, 2004-06-01 11:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mooncalf, 2004-06-01 11:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - raikochan, 2004-06-02 01:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkvalkyrie, 2004-06-02 04:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]shinigami_co, 2004-06-02 09:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mooncalf, 2004-06-02 09:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]shinigami_co, 2004-06-02 09:21 am UTC
*hijacks thread* - [info]mooncalf, 2004-06-02 09:25 am UTC
Re: *hijacks thread* - [info]shinigami_co, 2004-06-02 09:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pirotess, 2004-06-02 05:18 am UTC

[info]dwarfjen
2004-06-01 10:10 pm UTC (link)
created in the true KKK-style

I smell a Godwin corollary.

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[info]kijikun
2004-06-01 10:16 pm UTC (link)
Why do a imagine drawves throwing the rocks in your icon?

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(no subject) - [info]dwarfjen, 2004-06-02 01:06 am UTC

[info]liarliar
2004-06-01 10:38 pm UTC (link)
Hey, King of Bandits Jing icons!!

...oh, right, I was supposed to be reading the actual comments, wasn't I.

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[info]madamotaku
2004-06-01 10:59 pm UTC (link)
I think the Anti-Snark Icons with pouty anime faces are the best thing about this community. I get the feeling that I'm supposed to take them seriously, which makes me love them all the more.

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[info]darkvalkyrie
2004-06-01 11:02 pm UTC (link)
I especially love the Faye icon.

"OMG U HAET MY FIC!!1 WE'RE TAKING U DOWN BITCH!!!1"

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(no subject) - [info]panthea, 2004-06-02 06:38 am UTC
"Total Pedo"
[info]khym_chanur
2004-06-02 01:55 am UTC (link)
What series is that from?

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Re: "Total Pedo" - [info]madamotaku, 2004-06-02 02:22 am UTC
"teh" = "het" backwards!! - [info]khym_chanur, 2004-06-02 02:29 am UTC
Re: "teh" = "het" backwards!! - [info]madamotaku, 2004-06-02 03:14 am UTC
Re: "teh" = "het" backwards!! - [info]khym_chanur, 2004-06-02 03:29 am UTC

[info]diamonde
2004-06-02 08:18 am UTC (link)
It's quite hard to take icons that poorly made seriously.

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Dammit. - [info]htrismegistus, 2004-06-02 11:26 am UTC

bardiche
2004-06-02 12:00 am UTC (link)
Woah. I already knew the state of Suikoden fic was somewhat FUBARed, but to think that it could spawn wank! Well, if nothing else, it reminds me why I stayed the hell out of the Suikoden fandom.

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(no subject) - [info]panthea, 2004-06-02 06:20 am UTC
(no subject) - bardiche, 2004-06-03 12:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]panthea, 2004-06-03 05:12 am UTC
My fandom grew up!
(Anonymous)
2004-06-02 12:03 am UTC (link)
So, if it's started wanking, does it now count as a teenager?

-Enigma O

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[info]marginalsanity
2004-06-02 02:40 am UTC (link)
Ah, could see the splooge building a mile away...

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(Anonymous)
2004-06-02 02:43 am UTC (link)
This has really made my day. That anti-snark community is the best part! Down with the Snarkists! Because when we write slut!Chris and wussy!Geddoe, we deserve your utmost respect and understanding.

I'm feeling inspired to reread Miklotov/girl!Sheena and Yuber/Millie.

-- vaeran.

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(no subject) - [info]snarkbunny, 2004-06-02 02:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sam_chan, 2004-06-02 03:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]snarkbunny, 2004-06-02 04:08 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-06-02 07:49 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-06-02 05:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mooncalf, 2004-06-02 05:31 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-06-02 07:40 am UTC
Re: - [info]darkvalkyrie, 2004-06-02 08:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]shinigami_co, 2004-06-02 09:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mooncalf, 2004-06-02 09:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]shinigami_co, 2004-06-02 09:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mooncalf, 2004-06-02 09:53 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-06-02 10:19 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-06-02 06:37 am UTC (link)
From first-post wank:
How can one not expect a writer to take it personally when a group of individuals takes one of his/her stories and rips it apart?

Oh, that's easy!

Step 1: Find a big ol' ladder
Step 2: Climb up onto it
Step 3: GET OVER YOURSELF

-- cumaeansibyl on LJ

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Re: - [info]darkvalkyrie, 2004-06-02 08:49 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-06-02 09:50 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-06-02 03:26 pm UTC (link)
Why is it whenever I run across [info]karthur online she's always talking about how her poor little self is always getting TEH M33AN FLAMEZ for her wonderful, insightful, and always helpful constructive criticism that is offered only in the most generous of spirits?

-V.1.0

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[info]onewingedhyu
2004-06-04 06:53 am UTC (link)
Man, this gives me some hunger for some Xeno-wank now. X_x

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