diamonde
2003-05-03 11:57 am UTC (link)

*stares* Are these people watching the same Gundam Wing as me? Because in the one I watched - and one of the major reasons I liked it so much - the only explicitly canon couple was WuFei and his wife, and we all know how well that turned out. (Although an argument could be made for Treize/Une, I suppose.) The whole show was subtext, you could just take whatever bit you liked most and run with it.

Okay, awe. There's no wank like 'my OTP is CANON, dammit, and cannot be messed with' wank.

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kannaophelia
2003-05-03 12:25 pm UTC (link)

There's no wank like 'my OTP is CANON, dammit, and cannot be messed with' wank.

These people aren't quite in the league of the Ron/Hermione Harry/Hermione Harry/Draco lot, though... mere anime fen can't hope to scan the dizzy heights of the HP OTP wankers. They get distracted too easily into "That was put in/taken out by the evil dubbers!" "No it wasn't!" catfights. HP OTP'ers never lose the rhythm of their main wank.

I salute them. ~splat~

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	ari_ 2003-05-03 04:34 pm UTC (link)
	but you've got to credit the Gundam Wing fandom for the whole "Trowa was raped!" "No he wasn't!" war (I could never figure out which side was the pro-Trowa/Quatre side, because their reasoning never made sense to me) And of course, HP will never have wars over whether or not a particular character is uke or seme. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

Are you sure?

kannaophelia
2003-05-03 05:42 pm UTC (link)

I'm sure that must be uke/seme debates somewhere, probably in Harry/Draco land, given the bleeding between anime and HP fandom. It's the only explanation I can find for some fen declaring that, despite her name, Cho Chang is culturally Japanese.

I don't know why I'm even arguing the HPWank4EVA cause. Eventually I'll remember some prime antidub wank, and retire from the field in tears. And the fact that it's all about cartoons just makes it all the more special.

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	Re: Are you sure? tintin 2003-05-04 12:18 am UTC (link)
	One time I found a fic on FFN where Draco's nickname was "Draco-chan." It was around that point I realized there is no god. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Are you sure? dawnjosephine 2003-05-04 03:39 am UTC (link)
	The day that DL, FAP, F_W, and every BNF LJ closes- that is the day that I believe God is dead. As long as there is wank, and people willing to mock it- God is alive and well for me. grins (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Draco-CHAN? kannaophelia 2003-05-04 08:20 am UTC (link)
	~shudder~ As if I wasn't traumatised enough by a story with a half-Japanese Mary Sue speaking fangirl Japanese in Middle Earth... (Reply to this)(Parent)

sententia
2003-05-04 01:37 pm UTC (link)

Man, how bad was the G.W fandom around about that time? Add to that the war between the egroups Mods ('My mailing list is better!' 'No! Mine is!' Yours is only popular because you created 500 hundred email accounts and signed them all up to put the members in your group over 1000!), the infighting between two of the BNF's that ended up with one of them sending copies of the others NC-17 stuff to her workplace with all the gory details re: writing rape stories about underage kids, and then the utter fear that all the people who would become fans of the soon to be released dub would hunt down all the pre-dubbed fans and expell them from the fandom. Which led to the major mailing lists trying to officially make their lists off limits for dub watchers to 'protect' the fandom. Nine months before it was aired on U.S television.

Harry Potter is kids stuff compared to Gundam Wing. The yaoi part of that fandom was so damn bad that I unsubbed from all of my yaoi lists and joined the only existing non-yaoi one. And wrote het. THAT is how evil that fandom was.

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yay! femmeslash wank! Um...

kannaophelia
2003-05-03 12:20 pm UTC (link)

How on earth did a disussion on an f/f forum end up a big Satoshi/Kasumi Satoshi/Shigeru wankfest? It made me all teary-eyed with nostalgia for my Pokemon fandom days... well, not really. :P

And if I understand the original post, someone further down is saying that Ranma/Shampoo is canon and shouldn't be messed with. ~boggles~ But that's the problem - the original post seemed to be saying you shouldn't mess with canon pairings, which is debatable, but not particularly wanky. Once they got into all the "I really really luuurrve a pairing so no one should write anyone else" and the "how dare you like a pairing when I think one of the people in it is a meanie"... beautiful wank indeed.

as for the original poster, if you're not allowed to mess with canon pairings, why is ranma/akane exempt? it's not even necessarily a straight pairing.

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	Re: yay! femmeslash wank! Um... pipssister 2003-05-03 10:32 pm UTC (link)
	Because Akane = Abusive Psycho Bitch! And she shouldn't be allowed to have ANYBODY because she's such an Abusive Psycho Bitch. They'd rather have Shampoo the Sexual Harrasser* because she's all hot and can cook and stuff. * No, I don't think she's a sexual harrasser, but that comment makes about as much sense as calling Akane abusive. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	repentance kannaophelia 2003-05-04 04:11 am UTC (link)
	You're right - I forgot the gospel. I'm such a pathetic Ranma fan. I keep backsliding into thinking Akane is utterly adorable... I'll do better. ~sniffle~ (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Uh... iczer6 2003-05-03 07:08 pm UTC (link)
	Well as someone who took part in this wank I just want to attempt to defend myself. The point wasn't to discuss which couples are canon, or which couples are better, just which they like and don't want to see screwed with. That's it. Icz (Reply to this)

	yadda 2003-05-03 08:23 pm UTC (link)
	Best part of this wank is the 1st amendment wank. "You're off topic," "So what, I have the right to be off topic, it's called freedom of speech!" "But freedom is worthless without it's twin, responsibility!" Teehe! (Reply to this)

	lush_rimbaud 2003-05-04 04:00 am UTC (link)
	'Tis most wanky, indeed. Although they do sort of have a point, in that I find it somewhat irritating when canon love interests are villified or just completely ignored. (Reply to this)

	palingenesis 2003-05-06 12:01 am UTC (link)
	My favourite bit is the early diversion into "mean characters can't have sex!" Mmm, YnM wank. Tasty. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	iczer6 2003-05-06 09:20 pm UTC (link)
	>>My favourite bit is the early diversion into "mean characters can't have sex!">> Well I don't think mean characters SHOULD have sex. But then I think Muraki needs to be put in flamming car and pushed over a cliff onto spikey rocks so I'm proably not the best person to comment on this. Icz (Reply to this)(Parent)