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Maria ([info]ladyofviolets) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-06-22 10:01:00


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Current mood:*Snarl*
Current music:EDEN - To Destination

The latest wank from the Yaoi comm in LJ!
Not as wanky as it can potentially be. Damn it.

Is yaoi all about hating the third-wheel bitch?! (Rinoa bashing, some lime)



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[info]shoiryu
2004-06-22 05:15 pm UTC (link)
...No, it really isn't.

Then again, I'm one of about three Rinoa fans in existence. I'd probably have the same reaction if it were Relena from GW.

*quietly hugs them both* It's okay, ladies, I know your men are really straght!

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[info]chash
2004-06-22 05:45 pm UTC (link)
I also like Rinoa! So we've got two of three fans right here on FW!

And while I do like Relena, I don't usually write her man as straight. Although, it doesn't really matter to me as long as you keep your hands off my Trowa/Quatre OTP I CUT U!.

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[info]mariagoner
2004-06-22 05:51 pm UTC (link)
I'm in the same boat as you are. I know that both both Relena and Rinoa are widely loathed throughout their fandoms, and I don't even know why. (Well, okay, maybe I do know why-- their psychotic anti-fans seem to think they're the main reason there ain't no hot, gay lovin' in their respective canons.)

But... seriously... I don't think either Relena or Rinoa are as evil as they're commonly said to be. Relena started out as a superficial socialite twit... and gradually changed into a mature, daring heroine as the series went on. Rinoa started out as a superficial socialite twit (are you starting to spot a pattern here?) who gradually changed into a more-serious, self-assured heroine as the video game went on. It's almost as though almost every fan-girl in their fandom fixates on a first impression and just cannot let go of it.

Fandoms of the world*, take note: characters can actually evolve throughout a series. No matter how awful they are when they start out, they can and do mature into someone more loveable at the end of the series. And it's more than okay to note that change and embrace it-- since more likely than not, you will (or HAVE) experienced it yourself at some point.

*And a special shout-out goes out to the rabid fen of the HP kingdom who appear to think James Potter grew up to be a psychotic rapist/murderer/puppy-kicker. I... don't even know what to say to that one.

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Nod - [info]danceswithelvis, 2004-06-23 02:32 am UTC
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Damn! - [info]bishounenhuntrs, 2004-06-27 07:04 am UTC

[info]rinoared
2004-06-22 06:29 pm UTC (link)
...does that make me the fourth fan alive? I was lame enough to nick my nick from her too! Although I admit, it was mostly because I thought she was HOT!

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(no subject) - [info]deoridhe, 2004-06-26 12:10 am UTC
GW manga - (Anonymous), 2004-06-23 04:09 am UTC
Re: GW manga - [info]deoridhe, 2004-06-23 05:09 am UTC
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Rinoa fans unite - (Anonymous), 2004-06-22 08:52 pm UTC
Re: Rinoa fans unite - [info]toxictattoo, 2004-06-22 09:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-06-22 08:55 pm UTC
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[info]shinigami_co
2004-06-22 06:22 pm UTC (link)
Nice to know she's plaguing other comms now, as well. [info]crucifymylove! Dammit all! Couldn't you have waited for me to get my Spoogy Wank Queen of the Day icon done before you went and splorfled again?! Damn...

Anyway, as the whole "hated character" thing...I don't completely like Rinoa. I think Squall/Rinoa is sickeningly sweet (I admit, I cried at the end when she made Squall smile), but that doesn't mean I don't toss Screwbuddy Leonhart into everyone else's bed too. Save Selphie. Ugh.

As for Relena, well...I was one of those that was shouting "DO IT, HEERO!" when she was screaming for him to come back and kill her. Now that I think about Endless Waltz, though...she didn't seem so bad. She seems doomed to play the helpless hostage, but at least she still tried to talk some sense into Mariemeia (sp?). Doesn't mean I don't still dig on Noin and Une a helluva lot harder, though. OZ rocks! XD

See, I have character reasons for not liking the girls, not because they "get in the way of canon buttsex". That's just stupid.

Edit: Yes, I contradicted myself. This is not the comment you're looking for. *waves hand* @_@;

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[info]starza
2004-06-22 06:42 pm UTC (link)
Yay, I knew this was gonna go on F_W sometime around!

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(no subject) - [info]ladyofviolets, 2004-06-22 06:59 pm UTC

[info]dawnswalker
2004-06-22 07:58 pm UTC (link)
... Is it bad if I confess that the picture itself (but not so much the caption that was on it) made me laugh?

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Tehlame - (Anonymous), 2004-06-22 08:03 pm UTC
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[info]eyebrowofdoom
2004-06-22 08:08 pm UTC (link)
Ah, because of course, "it's just a joke" is a bulletproof defense against the observation that it's a dumb joke full of dumb sentiments. Down, doubting peons!

Then we have an orgy of crossed intentions and defensiveness about reclamations of misogynist epithets, culminating in an appeal to the dictionary! Go, dictionary, go!

Sweet!

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harlotish when flattered - [info]eyebrowofdoom, 2004-06-22 08:52 pm UTC
Re: harlotish when flattered - [info]yadda, 2004-06-22 09:56 pm UTC
Re: harlotish when flattered - [info]eyebrowofdoom, 2004-06-23 06:25 am UTC
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[info]croik
2004-06-22 08:31 pm UTC (link)
Man, can no one take a joke anymore? I'm a big Relena fan and if it was her in that picture (*insert Duo and Heero*) I still would have laughed my ass off.

I think every yaoi fan needs to admit that unless they stick to outrightly canon pairings, they've all defied canon and/or stolen a man from their intended female companion. We're all guilty of character bashing! Get over it! XP

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Re: Tehlame - [info]schuldig, 2004-06-22 09:43 pm UTC
Re: Tehlame - (Anonymous), 2004-06-22 09:49 pm UTC
Re: Tehlame - [info]schuldig, 2004-06-22 09:53 pm UTC
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me<---again - (Anonymous), 2004-06-22 09:55 pm UTC
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Re: - [info]croik, 2004-06-22 10:52 pm UTC
Second verse same as the first - [info]iczer6, 2004-06-23 01:55 am UTC
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Wait a sec!-Tehlame - (Anonymous), 2004-06-23 07:06 am UTC
Re: Wait a sec!-Tehlame - (Anonymous), 2004-06-23 02:00 pm UTC
Re: Wait a sec!-Tehlame - (Anonymous), 2004-06-25 08:17 pm UTC

[info]sarajayechan
2004-06-22 08:36 pm UTC (link)
*rolls eyes at the pic*

Yaoi is all about men screwing, but some fangirls forget that. No wonder some people hate the fandom so much.

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(no subject) - [info]toxictattoo, 2004-06-22 09:00 pm UTC
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[info]starza
2004-06-22 09:36 pm UTC (link)
You know, I've always thought that people ragging down on yaoi fans was just blowing steam at the wrong people.

Now, I see WHY people hate yaoi fans and why places like 'Anti-Yaoi' and crap exist. Doesn't mean I agree with what they say all the time, but still...

Honestly, it wasn't the picture that bothered me, but the message on it. Hi, yaoi exists so we can enjoy teh buttsex, not to get in the way of the het love!

Cause, you know, whatever happened to liking yaoi because of zee butt sex?

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(no subject) - [info]toxictattoo, 2004-06-22 09:45 pm UTC
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[info]senor_pinata
2004-06-22 10:01 pm UTC (link)
Ooh, I want to join the Rinoa fans! And I think her outfit is adorable.

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[info]hylian_shadow
2004-06-23 01:13 am UTC (link)
I think Rinoa looks quite pleased to see what she's seeing in that picture. [Yes, another Rinoa fan over here.]

I never saw the point in character bashing anyway. If you don't like a character, how about you just don't mention her/him? You don't need to mention 'the bitch Rinoa' just so you can have Squall and Seifer get it on; just have Squall and Seifer get it on. Simple enough.

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[info]redjackcash
2004-06-23 01:54 am UTC (link)

...insert reason number hojillion why I fell out of liking yaoi. Besides growing out of being hormonally driven to find sex in everything and using zee gay mansex to deal with my own sexual insecurities, that is.

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[info]psychofangirl
2004-06-23 02:15 am UTC (link)
I didn't find it funny, but whatever.

Maybe it's because I happen to like Squall and Riona. Not so much as a romantic pairing, but individually.

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[info]eris
2004-06-23 03:40 am UTC (link)
I'll just repeat what I said in a different comm.

I really, really don't get the trend in yaoi fandom to bash females. Why can't they just pair up the female in question with another female and then everyone's happy.

Why won't anyone think of the yuri?!

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(no subject) - [info]raykat, 2004-06-24 02:56 pm UTC
I have a question.....
[info]pyratejenni
2004-06-23 04:33 am UTC (link)
So, would these fans who go about Rinoa being an evil bitch absolutely freak if, say, I wrote a story that started out with Squall and Seifer having the hott boy sex, and later revealed that not only was Squall married to Rinoa, who didn't mind his shagging Seifer because she was dating Selphie, too?

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Re: I have a question..... - [info]deoridhe, 2004-06-23 05:10 am UTC
Re: I have a question..... - (Anonymous), 2004-06-23 07:05 am UTC

[info]selene_avis
2004-06-23 05:13 am UTC (link)
I saw this on yaoi_wank, the on yaoi_rants, and finally on hated_character. So I had a feeling it would be here as well.

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[info]virago
2004-06-23 06:08 am UTC (link)
Yay Meryl and Knives oh wait wrong fandom.

...

This is stupid. I'm sorry, I can't be more eloquent than that. Your stupid minds! Stupid!

Are we in eternal seventh grade in fandom? Seriously. OMG like Tiffany totally went out with Justin to make Traci jealous because she is sooooooo a skank and so totally does not deserve him omg.

As for what yaoi is about it's about teh hottness, you morons. If you're not grown-up enough to understand porn or sex itself and have to reduce it to OMG MAKEING ALLLLL THE OTHER GIRLZ JEALOUS, get the fuck out of my fandom.

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[info]arielchan
2004-06-23 06:28 am UTC (link)
Honestly, I never understand these people who complain about character-bashing. There's usually a warning before a bashing post or story, and it's not like the OP/author is in danger of being sued for character defimation.

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Tehlame - (Anonymous), 2004-06-23 07:32 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-06-23 07:02 am UTC (link)
I love some of the alternative captions people are coming up with here, ones that don't diss on Rinoa as a "twat" or "slut." It'd be nice if the pic were re-captioned and posted to the yaoi comm. Just to counteract the "original" (already a bastardization of the real artist's situation, tho') and show that female characters don't exist to get in the way of a guy/guy relationship -- show that they can ENABLE the relationship, even.

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[info]zarla
2004-06-23 08:04 am UTC (link)
I've always hated Rinoa intensely, but not because she got in the way of any of the pairings I liked. In fact, I'm just as turned off by Squall/Rinoa as I am Squall/Seifer or Squall/Anyone. I just truly hate Rinoa as a character.

Irvine/Zell forever omg lovesopunchyshooty

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[info]elysian
2004-06-23 12:09 pm UTC (link)
Ooh, we're having sharing time! Personally I didn't hate Rinoa; I did hate the Squall/Rinoa relationship, not for its heterosexuality but for popping up practically out of nowhere at all 'round disc 3 or so; seriously, Squall's personality just did a complete 180 for no real reason, as I recall, which only further cemented my loathing for the way RPGs find it absolutely necessary to shove a trite romance subplot down our throats. (Hey, remember how FF3/6 was good? a spoonful of subtlety helps the subplots go down!) ... But whatever, it's been a very long time since I played it.

When Relena annoyed me it was for her role more than her personality or her vagina; you know, the politician preaching her willingness to fight and sacrifice and whatever for her ideal, when all she really does is give impassioned speeches while everyone else is out there doing the actual fighting for her. S'just the way the world works, though, and she was a fairly admirable woman. ... It's been years since I've seen GW, too. (For what it's worth, I approached GW without having touched the fandom at all. Trowa/Quatre were exquisitely gaygaygay, but that was pretty much the only yaoi pairing I saw in the entire thing. Afterward I was utterly boggled by the 1x2x1 thing, the frequent bizarre fanontastic characterisation, and abundant purple prose coming from DUO AND HEERO (just... dude.)

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[info]jaseroque
2004-06-23 12:49 pm UTC (link)
"And here I thought yaoi was supposed to be all about the hot m/m sex. Thank you so much for correcting my mistake. So tell me, where in "yama nashi, ochi nashi, imi nashi" does it say anything about character-bashing?"

... actually, "yama nashi, ochi nashi, imi nashi" means ""no peak, no point, no meaning". I'm not seeing anything in there about hot m/m sex either.

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(no subject) - [info]majinkarp, 2004-06-23 04:01 pm UTC
*headdesk* - [info]iczer6, 2004-06-24 03:22 am UTC
Re: *headdesk* - [info]majinkarp, 2004-06-24 04:29 am UTC
Slayers Romance
(Anonymous)
2004-06-24 09:14 am UTC (link)
Bah, well, since Martina (tini!)and Zangulus both were OC to the anime only (am I right?), I suppose it was alright for the animatators to do whatever the hell they wanted to do with them. Though the shipping was kinda sudden (is there even a fandom for them?). I'm still disappointed that there wasn't more on the L/G side. Two years ago I bought the Japanese 8th graphic novel, and it looks like within another year or so, it'll be translated in English here.
---> such a sucker for Slayers
Also, I still don't see the Z/A shipping, but then again, I'm fond of the "coldhearted swordsman" just being by himself kinda like Sasuke from Naruto...

DAMMIT! I just want to know what is going on besides the whole LON issue!

*rants*

LG

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