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Kerianne ([info]kerikeri) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-06-25 18:55:00


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Bite-sized Queen of Wands wank
Over on qow, the community for the webcomic Queen of Wands, duckxxx posts detailing why he'd rather date Angela (one of the recurring female characters) than Kestrel (the main female character).

"I though it would be fun to have a GF that looks 12.
You know to go out to the park and make out, make the soccer moms mad, the usual."


Responses include accusations of pedophilia, pyromancyr's theory of internet humor, and kimnicole getting really worked up about the, um, imaginary sexual objectification of an imaginary 12-year-old who's actually in her twenties, or would be if she wasn't, you know, imaginary.

Oh, and don't miss the other nugget of wisdom from pyromancyr, in which we learn that all men secretly lust after barely-legal ass and all women are just jealous!

EDIT: Drat, deleted. Putting some of the wankiest salvaged bits behind the cut:


duckxxx: OK I’d like to clarify something on the post I did a while ago.
Remember I only asked where I could find a girl like Angela.
Not that out of the two single female characters I prefer Angela.
Technically speaking Kestrel and Angela are about even on the attractiveness level.
Hmmm a cute blond or a sexy red head?
Both girls have personalities that I can get along with.
So that takes care of 75% of what I look for in a woman.
The only thing Angela had over Kestrel was that I though it would be fun to have a GF that looks 12.
You know to go out to the park and make out, make the soccer moms mad, the usual.
But that was it.



cumaensibyl: So, you want a girlfriend who looks like she's 8, in order to make out with her jailbait ass and play freak-the-mundanes. And you think that this isn't going to scream Megan's Law to any girl with half a brain, regardless of how much she likes wearing frilly dresses?

Congratulations. You fail.



duckxxx: Um. No.
I want a GF I can get along with.
The whole freak-the-mundane thing was just something I thought was funny.
I didn’t read into this as much as you must have.
Personally I didn’t even consider the pedophile angle that you brought up.
Your mindset is on a totally different level.
So guess what.

Congratulations. You’re a perv.



kimnicole: Uhhhhhh....you're pissed because you're so shallow you didn't think through the implications and wanting a prepubrescent girlfriend?

She's a perv because she did?

And you're not some sick freak who wants a child because you're that shallow?

Dude. Either way you've got a long way to go before you get a girl who isn't 12 to date you.



starcrossedlady: And I'm sure a girl like Angela or even Kestrel would appreciate a stud like you.

not.

Think with me. Would you really go for a person who really only wants to be with you to make a certain kind of person uncomfortable? It's not the fact that you are percieved as intelligent, have similar tastes in cultural persuits, or that they like being with you because of you... it's because you help that person freak out other people. But since this is what I'm reading from your post... maybe those other points don't really matter, since you could "make" your lady friend look even younger then she would already appear.

< sarcasm > Such a lovely basis to form any sort of relationship on < / sarcasm >.



kimnicole: Best part was I assumed this was a young kid, 19 or so, so I figured I slap him around a bit. Just checked his user info, says he was born in 1971.

So a 32/33 year old man wants to make out in public with a 12 year old looking person, and is surprised and pissed that some people don't thinks it's funny.

Sick. Seriously.



tenshimurasaki: Wow..okay.

Am I the only one that sees this as a joking type post? If I am, then that would explain why I don't understand why everyone is taking this so extremely seriously.



kimnicole: Because he's implying young prepubescent girls turn him on. (With the barely legal XXX fix of she's actually an underdeveloped 18.)

And the girl he wants to be kissin' on needs to be young lookin' enough to freak out the adults.

In other words, one of his humorous punchlines is the sexual objectification of a pseudo 12 year old.

If that makes you laugh, great. I think it's sick, and I don't think it belongs or should be supported in a community anywhere.

Fun fact that makes it creepier, 12 was the average age of a sexual abuse victim, various mid-late 90's studies.



pyromancyr: rule of thumb..... 80% of the world's population will misread the intention of a joke

of the 20% who might get he joke, about 75% will take offense to the joke

now, the remaining population (the 5% who have a sense of humor and aren't afraid to show it) we are the ones who have to deal with the backlash of a good joke because everyone else needs to LIGHTEN THE F@*K UP!!!!!

what does this all mean?
nothing whatsoever!

now stop making this all out to be more than it is people!



pyromancyr again: it is one of those screwed-up facts of post-Janet-Flash-Fallout America that anything that could be REMOTELY offensive, even a joke, is taken WAAAAAAAAY too damn seriously....

by whom you ask.... good question. I'll tell you:

the holier-than-thou, pseudo-conservative right wing extremists who would most likely jump on the chance of getting barely-legal pie if it was flashed for them in offering by some Gauge look-alike who's only looking for a sugar daddy (emphasis on the "daddy")
(note: for those of you who don't watch porn, Gauge is the name of a porn actress...i think she's 20 now, petite, and dressed the right way would pass for junior high age)

but if they are most likely that easily drawn between the sheets by the very thing they protest so vehemently, why are they making such a fuss?

another good question.
the answer is simple: guilt. they feel guilty about wishing for something that could just as easily be their younger sister, or daughter in some cases(which opens up a whole new can of worms, but we won't go there...)

But what about women? where do they fit in?

that's simple: jealousy. They see men drool over these young, cheerleader/gymnast types and the green-eyed monster rears its ugly head, knowing they will never be able to compete and hating these innocent girls for this. And if the one doing the drooling is the man they are currently attached to, guess who will be sleeping on the couch tomight...

for Vague But True, filling in for Tim Bedore, this is Roger Aragon



kimnicole waaay oversharing: Wow. You're a sick puppy if you think it's jealousy.

Any man who'd honestly prefer the underdeveloped body of a 12 year old is not a man I'd welcome in my bed. He has far greater problems than I would even want to deal with.

How do I know?

I was molested for 2 years by a man that had graduated with my mom, and was 25 years my senior. I was 11 when it began.

What was it about my budding body he enjoyed? It's relative pubelessness? The small, but budding breasts. The tiny just flushed with estrogen nipples?

Oh no. He far more enjoyed the sensation of slowly weaning me away from my parents and friends. Of taking advantage of my desire to be independent. He enjoyed my unabashed respect, and awe. But mostly, he enjoyed the control.

You see, he liked the fact I saw him as smarter, brighter, stronger and more intelligent than most people did or would. He liked that my inexperience made his life so impressive because I had few yard sticks with which to judge it. He liked the fact that as an 11 year old girl, I pretty much did what he asked. Sex has very little to do with it. It's about pure unadulterated power, and finding it somewhere when you can't get it in life.

If I had a man who was seriously drooling over a 12 year old child, or some adult he thought was a 12 year old child, he wouldn't be sleeping on a couch, he'd be out on the street.



There was some other stuff in there about how kimnicole wanted to report the post to duckxxx's employer if he worked with children, and someone pointing out that maybe kimnicole was overreacting just a tad because of what happened to her, but alas, it is now lost to the ages.


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(Anonymous)
2004-06-26 02:38 am UTC (link)
Lolicon == AWESOME

-Fencedude

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(Anonymous)
2004-06-26 02:42 am UTC (link)
Oh, and that Comic's art style is killing me.

-Fencedude

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(no subject) - [info]ilpalazzo, 2004-06-28 12:48 am UTC

[info]mariagoner
2004-06-26 02:45 am UTC (link)
all men secretly lust after barely-legal ass and all women are just jealous!

I'd laugh and call this guy a crazy wanker but... well... did you see the media frenzy that descended on Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen when they turned 18? And did you witness how practically ever over-40 pervert is going crazy over 17-year-old Lindsay Lohan and her extremely fake, often bared tits?

All I can say is that I'm not willing to laugh it off just yet...

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[info]mpoetess
2004-06-26 02:59 am UTC (link)
all men secretly lust after barely-legal ass and all women are just jealous!

SO not true! Some women lust after not barely legal ass too!

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(no subject) - [info]mpoetess, 2004-06-26 03:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mariagoner, 2004-06-26 03:34 am UTC

[info]dawnswalker
2004-06-26 04:01 am UTC (link)
Dude, the first time I saw a picture of Lindsay Lohan, I thought Goldie Hawn had gotten yet another round of plastic surgery.

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[info]littlekitsch
2004-06-26 02:53 am UTC (link)
I might have already told you this, but your icon is a thing of beauty.

*loves teh Chris Barrie*

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[info]combledore
2004-06-26 05:21 am UTC (link)
I don't know who Chris Barrie is, but I just can't stop watching the OP's icon. It's mesmerizing.

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[info]teratologist
2004-06-26 03:53 am UTC (link)
On the one hand, conflating pedophilia with lusting after post-pubescent but illegal teenagers with lusting after young-looking legal adults is virtually always a sign of approaching wankstorms on the horizon.

On the second hand, though, anyone who thinks that a hot date consists of going to some crappy amusement park and making out while keeping one eye open for shocked reactions definitely has a low pressure system in his head.

I'm calling for high winds, with heavy splooge fall and a chance of thunder.

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[info]beccastareyes
2004-06-26 03:54 am UTC (link)
You know, it's fans liek these that make me glad no one knows my webcomic exists. That way, I can pretend to have scary fans, which is usually better than actually having scary fans, because I'm not that creative.

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[info]pokecheck
2004-06-26 04:07 am UTC (link)
Oh, that is so awful. Any self-respecting adult male who has ANY even remotely lustful thoughts about barely legal girls are sick and should die.

Why, yes, that IS a Ron Weasley poster on the ceiling above my bed. Why do you ask?

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[info]iczer6
2004-06-26 04:16 am UTC (link)
Oh, that is so awful. Any self-respecting adult male who has ANY even remotely lustful thoughts about barely legal girls are sick and should die.

/sarcasm

Naturally I mean we all know that it's sick and wrong to lust after hot, young ass, and even the slightest hint that a guy might go for gals younger than him means he's a child molesting pervert.

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(no subject) - [info]enkogneatoh, 2004-06-26 04:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2004-06-26 04:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2004-06-26 04:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2004-06-26 04:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkwitch666, 2004-06-26 08:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2004-06-26 10:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkwitch666, 2004-06-27 08:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2004-06-27 08:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lasayla, 2004-07-01 04:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2004-07-02 09:42 am UTC

[info]virago
2004-06-26 07:59 am UTC (link)
Welllllllll, I think there's a difference between "barely legal" (which is like, 17, 16, 15 at a stretch) and TWELVE. Unless a person is freakishly hormonally imbalanced, 12 looks a lot different from 17.

Not that I'm defending the poster, but I don't think this is a barely-legal thing. What yon anime fiends call "lolicon" and the rest of us call, um, pedophilia, but not barely legal.

(my impression? Lame joke. Overreaction. They all lose. The end.)

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(no subject) - ataniell93, 2004-06-26 11:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]teratologist, 2004-06-27 07:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2004-06-28 12:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]teratologist, 2004-06-28 03:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]virago, 2004-06-29 02:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2004-06-30 12:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]virago, 2004-06-30 06:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2004-06-30 08:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]teratologist, 2004-06-30 01:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]virago, 2004-06-30 06:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]teratologist, 2004-06-30 02:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]virago, 2004-06-29 02:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - ataniell93, 2004-06-29 07:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]virago, 2004-06-30 06:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2004-06-30 10:31 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-06-26 04:41 am UTC (link)
Argh, it seems like the wanktastic post has been deleted! Cannot see teh pretteh!

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What I caught before the thread was deleted:
[info]gaisce
2004-06-26 04:48 am UTC (link)
God, I need screencaps. Especially in this day and age where deleting things is kewliez.

"Are you one of those pederasts, or something?"
normalcyispasse
2004-06-25 12:34 (link)
Hey, it might be useful to remember that Kestrel and Angela are CARTOON CHARACTERS.
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Re: "Are you one of those pederasts, or something?"
duckxxx
2004-06-25 13:29 (link)
Pederasts?
I’ve never heard of that term.
But if it is what I think it is the probably not.
I’m sorry about this post. >_<
This went to a place I never even though of.
And yes I do know that they are pretty much totally fictional.

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Re: "Are you one of those pederasts, or something?"
gigglinggorgon
2004-06-25 14:37 (link)
so is Disney's Tarzan, yet he has visited my dreams on many a drooly night...

(how that toon moves!!!)
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Re: "Are you one of those pederasts, or something?"
gigglinggorgon
2004-06-25 14:39 (link)
oh, and I'm not sure that word means what you think it means...

unless you MEAN man-boy love... then I just don't see how it applies.
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Re: "Are you one of those pederasts, or something?"
duckxxx
2004-06-25 14:50 (link)
Oh.
Than defiantly not. >_<
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Re: "Are you one of those pederasts, or something?"
normalcyispasse
2004-06-25 16:03 (link)
I'm aware that "pederast" carries connotations of, well, NAMBLA and Greek senators. I chose the subject line because it is a quote (hence the quotations), though I can't recall the source at the moment. Y'know, kind of a facetious jape. . .


Re: "Are you one of those pederasts, or something?" - gigglinggorgon, 2004-06-25 17:09:13

starcrossedlady
2004-06-25 12:51
And I'm sure a girl like Angela or even Kestrel would appreciate a stud like you.

not.

Think with me. Would you really go for a person who really only wants to be with you to make a certain kind of person uncomfortable? It's not the fact that you are percieved as intelligent, have similar tastes in cultural persuits, or that they like being with you because of you... it's because you help that person freak out other people. But since this is what I'm reading from your post... maybe those other points don't really matter, since you could "make" your lady friend look even younger then she would already appear.

< sarcasm> Such a lovely basis to form any sort of relationship on</ sarcasm>.


duckxxx
2004-06-25 13:51
Well I’m pretty sure that if these two ladies were real that I wouldn’t have a chance at all.
But you have to remember,
This is not the reason I would go out with a girl just a perk.
If I gave you that perception I’m sorry. >_<



kimnicole
2004-06-25 15:40
Best part was I assumed this was a young kid, 19 or so, so I figured I slap him around a bit. Just checked his user info, says he was born in 1971.

So a 32/33 year old man wants to make out in public with a 12 year old looking person, and is surprised and pissed that some people don't thinks it's funny.

Sick. Seriously.



duckxxx
2004-06-25 17:05
Yes I’m 33.
But you’re assuming that I’ll only go out with women who look 12.
Besides you’re also assuming that a woman has to be 18 and still in high school to look that young.
I know a girl who is the same age as I and she still looks that young.
Remember the premise to this joke is the shock value.
I guess I got that down.

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And you're an awful immature 33 - kimnicole, 2004-06-25 17:33:07
Re: And you're an awful immature 33 - misskitty_79, 2004-06-25 17:37:44
Re: And you're an awful immature 33 - duckxxx, 2004-06-25 17:59:03
Re: And you're an awful immature 33 - misskitty_79, 2004-06-25 18:07:33
Re: And you're an awful immature 33 - duckxxx, 2004-06-25 18:16:02
Re: And you're an awful immature 33 - kimnicole, 2004-06-25 18:15:16
Re: And you're an awful immature 33 - duckxxx, 2004-06-25 17:56:43

tenshimurasaki
2004-06-25 13:27 (link)
Wow..okay.

Am I the only one that sees this as a joking type post? If I am, then that would explain why I don't understand why everyone is taking this so extremely seriously.
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Re: What I caught before the thread was deleted:
[info]gaisce
2004-06-26 04:49 am UTC (link)
And duckxxx parting address:

Oh before I go.
I’m stating for the record that if I was a comic character and was given a choice of dating Angela or Kestrel I’m choosing Kestrel.
As I was saying before they are both equally attractive and have personalities I can get along with.
But with people like kimnicole giving me a hard time in going out with a person like Angela I’d rather have the one with less stress.
I normally wouldn’t let body shape influence my choices but in this case I’ll make the exception.
Besides it’s not like I’m giving up anything.
Like I said before they are both equally attractive and have both have good personalities.

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Re: What I caught before the thread was deleted: - [info]kerikeri, 2004-06-26 05:07 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-06-26 07:23 am UTC (link)
I don't read QoW, I just had to mention my icon love.

[icon loving]
OMGWTFBBQAOLPWPMIA, Red Dwarf is teh best show EVAR!!!!11eleventy I lurrrrrrrrve the Tongue-tied dream.
[/icon loving]

If I was ever in a dream sequence, I wish it would be Cat's so I could dance and wear a great outfit. And damn them for only releasing two series a year. I want it all *now,* daddyyyyyy! [/Veruca]

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[info]angstbunny
2004-06-26 08:22 am UTC (link)
Um, I didn't even get to the wank. I was too busy staring at your icon.

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OMG, can I just say this...
[info]turimel
2004-06-26 10:05 am UTC (link)
I named my guinea pig after Mr. Flibbles. Unfortunately it had been a while since I'd seen that episode so I goofed and called him Mr. Flibbert...

Red Dwarf Rocks My Sock Puppets.

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(Anonymous)
2004-06-26 08:26 am UTC (link)
Holy Crap, Kerikeri! Your icon!
Where/how did you get/make it?
Can please I use it? Giving you full credit of course.
[/Rimmer lust]

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[info]diamonde
2004-06-26 08:42 am UTC (link)
Hmm. But what if Angela wanted to make out in the park and upset people? Because it's quite possible she would, given the other things that character gets up to. Anyway, an adult who looks twelve in jeans and a baggy t-shirt is not anatomically equivalent to a real twelve year-old.

But what I really wonder about is if someone who thinks Angela is attractive is automatically a disgusting perv who should be castrated, how on earth is she ever supposed to have a sex life? I'm twenty-two and I still get asked for ID to prove I'm eighteen every time, unless they recognise me. Does this mean I can only have sex with men who aren't attracted to me?

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[info]iczer6
2004-06-26 08:35 pm UTC (link)
Anyway, an adult who looks twelve in jeans and a baggy t-shirt is not anatomically equivalent to a real twelve year-old.

Good point, I didn't see the OP say he was attracted to 12 year olds, only that he thought it would be fun to freak people out with a girlfriend who looks younger than she is.


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ataniell93
2004-06-26 11:59 pm UTC (link)
*hugs* I looked 16 when I was 11. I continued to look 16 until I was 28. And that was because my hair was now greying. A bottle of dye later, I looked...18 or 19.

I appreciate it at 40, though, no one ever believes I'm more than 28.

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Icon adoration
[info]turimel
2004-06-26 10:02 am UTC (link)
Is there such a thing as Red Dwarf wank?

Should I even have asked that?

*fondly recalls Kryten's groinal attachment and the Polymorph boxer shorts*

funniest. tv. show. ever.

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Re: Icon adoration - [info]dae, 2004-06-26 12:57 pm UTC

[info]gia_b
2004-06-26 01:08 pm UTC (link)
I'm Asian, and usually thought of as younger than I really am by, say, Americans. In fact, a friend's cousin (who was about 20 at the time) was mistaken for someone about 14 years old.

So a perfectly normal Chinese 18-year-old making out with some guy might freak out a couple of American soccer moms, but she's still EIGHTEEN. She's not ACTUALLY 12.

So, no, I don't think the OP was that sick or anything for saying it would be a plus if Imaginary Girlfriend looked twelve. Heck, I think it would be a plus if my boyfriend had a huge-ass tattoo somewhere, just to mess around with my mom's head.

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[info]gal_montag
2004-07-01 04:00 am UTC (link)
I think there's a difference between lusting after barely legal ass and actually going after barely legal ass. However, if this consumes as much of that guy's time as it seems to it's a) only a matter of time and b) he really really needs to start hanging out with women his own age.

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(no subject) - [info]kerikeri, 2004-07-01 08:12 pm UTC
Re: - [info]gal_montag, 2004-07-02 04:02 am UTC

 
   
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