Lyrics?

dorothy1901
2004-07-28 11:14 pm UTC (link)

Is this person's fic actually any good?

It's got lyrics, so I'm going to play the odds and guess 'no.'

	Re: Lyrics? ari_ 2004-07-29 08:34 pm UTC (link)
	it's one of the few H/D I've actually bothered to read (not my pairing). But then, I never read songlyrics. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	OH, for god's sake (Anonymous) 2004-07-28 11:15 pm UTC (link)
	I know there's a lot of crap at FF.net but at least you can post and delete your own stuff as you see fit. Talk about WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK! Friction Alley, indeed. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	Re: OH, for god's sake (Anonymous) 2004-07-28 11:30 pm UTC (link)
	I don't think you get a bonus for rudeness anywhere. Or do you? Lemme know so I can go rack up points. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	livii 2004-07-29 12:02 am UTC (link)
	Is this person's fic actually any good? From what I saw of Chapter 10, nope! Although, come to think of it, it could have been the lack of lyrics...yes, I'm sure that's the problem. Lyrics make everything better. (Reply to this)(Thread)

kannaophelia
2004-07-29 09:45 am UTC (link)

It's the intimacy. I always feel like I'm lying on the author's bed, listening to her favourite song playing on her ipod while reading her diary and matching the OMG deep and meaningful lyrics to how her parents and boyfriend don't understand her, and projecting that onto the way Harry Potter characters feel just like her, oh my goodness Evanescence just feel Ginny's pain, don't they? Carries me away emotionally every time.

Non songfics just seem so flat and bland after that.

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	(Anonymous) 2004-07-29 03:40 pm UTC (link)
	Draco's pain. This one's slash. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	kannaophelia 2004-07-29 04:05 pm UTC (link)
	And you don't think that might upset Ginny a little? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2004-07-29 06:06 pm UTC (link)
	Good point. They can cry and cut themselves together. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2004-07-29 08:16 pm UTC (link)
	Mmm, homemade pie crust. (Reply to this)(Parent)

(Anonymous)
2004-07-29 02:05 pm UTC (link)

Forgive me if I'm missing something, but I've read the thread at FA, and though the author was clearly a whining child about this, I do think they did exactly what she said they did. She'd uploaded a chapter. They posted it. She realized then that she'd uploaded the wrong file. She resubmitted the correct file, and then posted in the forums to ask that the previous one be deleted. (Here is where I think her real mistake was, as if she'd just left it alone, it would have been corrected anyway, if a bit more slowly. Her request on the boards confused the issue.) In any case, when the person from FA went to address the problem, they deleted the resubmitted correct file from the queue instead of the incorrect chapter that had already been uploaded. Phoenix Song whined and pouted in an unbecoming manner, but she was right about what they'd done.

Am I missing something?

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	(Anonymous) 2004-07-29 03:15 pm UTC (link)
	Er actually NO. When she made submission #2, she sent the wrong chapter AGAIN and blamed it on the coders, constantly YMing an FA staffer who doesn't even have access to deleting the files instead of just waiting a day like everyone else. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2004-07-29 03:56 pm UTC (link)
	What a DUM ASS. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2004-07-29 06:26 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, you are. That's harassment of the staff, man. If that kind of condescending ALL CAPS had been directed at another user on the shipping forums (or something) I bet the mods would've thwapped her. I'm glad she told everyone how frustrating the experience was for her personally. What a self centered lameass. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

(Anonymous)
2004-07-29 06:49 pm UTC (link)

I've been following this fic (it's considered a good H/D epic) over the last few months. I like it, but must say ever since I discovered the author's LJ (user name - mijan) I've gone a bit off her... She seems to be a military person (army or marines or something) and got this vendetta going against some idiotic guy on FA. Ok, he (the idiot on FA) sounds like a right wanker and does not need to be defended but all she needed to do was ignore him. Instead the vindictive and stalker-ish way she's gone on about him has left a nasty taste in my mouth, and now this whine about her newest chapter. ugh. I hate song lyrics in fics anyway. They are mostly lame and do nothing at all for me.

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livii
2004-07-29 07:48 pm UTC (link)

Hee, thanks for the heads-up; that was some nicely entertaining wank on her LJ. I didn't look at all of it, so this other guy may well be a jerk, but the original review that she called a "flame"? DUDE, that was not a fucking flame. It said the reviewer didn't like the fic, and, in rather polite and detailed fashion, why. It was concrit with an edge of bite, but not a flame. Too funny.

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chief
2004-07-30 11:24 pm UTC (link)

but the original review that she called a "flame"? DUDE, that was not a fucking flame. It said the reviewer didn't like the fic, and, in rather polite and detailed fashion, why. It was concrit with an edge of bite, but not a flame.

Really? That's interesting, because I've seen this author participate in something that's called "The Truth-Exchange" on FAP. That is a thread where you read someone's fic and review it, and someone else reads yours and review it, but the difference between this particular threads and others that serve the same purpose, is that the authors who are exchanging in this thread claim to want "the truth", be, they don't want people to gloss over what they don't like in other words, but the reviewer's "honest opinion"...

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(Anonymous)
2004-07-31 02:00 am UTC (link)

In that case, I'd have to say double standards much? to her. She's accused this FPB guy of being paranoid and throwing hissy fits and that's exactly what she herself did over this new/old/correct/wrong saga of uploading her chapter. Whilst the FPB guy does sound indeed wank-worthy, I didn't like the way she rounded up her minions to bombard the poor bastard with emails. Nasty bullying behaviour, why not just have a chuckle amongst friends and ignore him?

I had to burst out laughing when I finally saw the correct/new/withshinynewLYRICS! version of her chapter today; apart from a few lines of lame-ass lyrics in a color font bookending the chapter, there's no discernable difference from the version that offended her sensibilities so much; surely no sane writer would have gone into a such a paranoid flap about it?

Um, and this? (She's the roly poly Harry Potter in the photos - link from her LJ). Ouch my eyes.
http://jsons.collegepublisher.com/main.cfm/include/detail/storyid/684562.html

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(Anonymous)
2004-08-16 01:51 am UTC (link)

But FPB is well known for leaving completely negative reviews and posts simply to stir people up. He wrote a fic specifically to offend people ("Gay Bar" on TheDarkArts.org–if you check the review thread, he actually asks if anyone was offended) and has been known to go completely off-topic, using as many large words as possibly to make himself sound smarter. When a certain BNF, Ayla Pascal, participated in an exchange of one-shots with him, she told him that he could use one of her one-shots on The Dark Arts, preferably her latest. He deliberately hunted down one that she wrote when she was fourteen and proceeded to tell her everything that was wrong with it in the most pretentious way possible. He's been known to create sockpuppets and shamelessly recommend his own fics.

PhoenixSong is my friend. I won't bother to attempt standing up for her, since I don't want to add to the wank, but I would like to point out that FPB wasn't exactly innocent.

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mijan
2004-07-31 12:11 pm UTC (link)

The only reason I mentioned the damn lyrics is because it was the easiest way to tell the chapters apart. I could care less about the lyrics themselves. There were several other differences that I did, as well as having fixed a lot of typos. Does anyone here do art? I don't care what type, I mean anything artistic: music, writing, painting, whatever. When you finish a piece, do you nit-pick over it? Want to make sure it's perfect before anyone else sees it? Would you be embarrassed to present a piece and *then* discover several mistakes?

Is the fic any good? Fuck, I don't know, but enough people seem to like it, and I want to give them the best I can write if they're going to take the time to read it.

And in case anyone missed it, I publicly apologized a day and half ago for my rudeness. I ADMITTED IT. I made a dumb-ass mistake and got worked up over nothing. I should have been more careful, I should have waited. OOPS. Live and learn.

As for FPB, he and I actually called a truce. Surprise, surprise. And "minions?" Sorry, I don't know about minions. BNF's have those, and I'm a no-name. Must be a mistake there.

And "roly-poly?" That's a laugh. You can accuse me of a lot of things, but that's not one of them.

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	hermiones_hymen 2004-08-01 08:14 am UTC (link)
	Couldn't care less. Not flaming you; it's just my life's mission to get people to use the correct form of the phrase. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mijan 2004-08-01 06:39 pm UTC (link)
	Yep, you caught me on that one. Will try to keep that in mind. Thanks. (Reply to this)(Parent)