You people make me want to kill myself
Kijikun just pointed out to me that I had posted this in the wrong FW. Thanks!

This was sent to me by a friend who does not have a JournalFen account. It's long and a little old, but it's good.</pre>

Ding, Ding, Ding - the winner hands down….Batshit crazy

For over two years a slightly insane woman in multiple fandoms has been plaguing the Yahoo Groups boards with her sockpuppets and fake suicide notes. I am surprised no one has mentioned her here before.

Her name is Gloria and she's in Hawaii Five-O, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Combat and Dark Shadows (maybe more) fandoms. At last count she has over 100 socks and they all talk in defence of her. And if they aren't defending her they are sending out death threats, they regularly get her tossed off of Yahoo for TOS violations. (Of course she claims, she's being stalked and that's why she had to close those accounts down - although 4 years later she sings a different tune and claims she had surgery and the accounts were stagnate and that's why she lost them to YahooHell). But we know where the original post is: http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheIslanders/message/770

If someone talks badly about Gloria or catches one of her socks (by doing an IP trace), then Gloria's husband, 'Russell' will get online and threaten everyone to leave his wife alone, as she's a "sick" woman. And if it's not Russell, then one of Gloria's "close, personal" friends will pop into the list and post or attack her critics.

In his latest post (Rus has been banned from Yahoo a few times himself for threats), he threatened people with legal action, apparently Russell believes that tracing IP's is ILLEGAL! Apparently the FBI will come to your house and arrest you if you do so! http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheOldHouse/message/1670

The Old House has OPEN archive, so go and read all the posts, but here's the highlights:

"I just popped in to let those people who have been terrorising my
wife, invading her groups and contacting others off list and
spreading rumours about her. I won't stand still for it. Not now. Not
ever. With the help of AOL's security team, we are in the process of
bringing charges against the hackers and identity theives that have
gained illegal access to her ISP numbers. Maybe you did know this,
but just looking at those numbers is a Federal Offence. Yahoo is
breaking Federal laws by including those numbers on posts and e-mails.

If you use them to trace her to her ISP, then you are considered a
hacker, and a potential threat to her life. The FBI will not take
this matter lightly. Best of all, AOL does the prosecuting for us.
All we have to do is provide screen names. And we 've got plenty of
screen names!"

I can't keep my socks straight!!

Gloria has been booted so many times from so many lists under so many socks she cannot even remember what list she's posting to! See here: http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheOldHouse/message/1682

She thinks she's posting to a Hawaii Five-O board, when actually she's on the Dark Shadows board! Apparently she founded TheIslanders and TheOldHouse lists, but after she got booted those Yahoo accounts were no longer available to her, so these lists are completely unmoderated and a free-for-all. But, still almost weekly Gloria insists she is the MODERATOR of these lists and demands respect from HER members and you must listen to her!

And the Rod guy she's talking to in that post is the person she threatened to kill a few years ago with a gun. She got tossed for that and later deleted the post, but it is cut and pasted in the victim's next post: http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheOldHouse/message/756

Scroll to bottom to read Gloria's threat of, "Just because you were born with male genitalia DOES NOT make you men. A MAN, doesn't spew filth from his mouth every ten seconds! Women can do anything men can do, and THIS woman isn't afraid of any horse's backside like you! Come and visit me sometime. I have a nice Glock 9 mm automatic in my nightstand drawer. I'd love to blow your face and your head all over my bedroom wall! You DO NOT OWN THIS LIST, either moron. Just give it up."

Here she confesses to some of her socks, but not all of them. BTW, it seems her whole family was posting on these lists in her defence! http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheIslanders/message/1191

Her reasoning when being "caught" and her socks outed for what they were -- phoney ID's. http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheIslanders/message/1296

Alas, in the end, Gloria repents her ways and promises to be good, here:

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheIslanders/message/1406

It doesn't last long and she's back to her old tricks.

When you've been asking yourself, where a good fake Internet suicide when you need one? Here it is!

In reality, Gloria is most famous for her phoney suicide notes that have sent the police to house not once but TWICE! The first one, the police showed up and nothing was done. Here: http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheIslanders/message/1266 Gloria laughs at how funny it is to make phoney suicide threats and involve the police!

The second attempt, months later, she threatened to starve herself to death and her "sister-in-law" posted about it: http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheIslanders/message/1267

Only a few days later, Gloria writes out her own suicide note! (Goodbye cruel world!)

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheIslanders/message/1972 http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheIslanders/message/1979 (notice this is from another sock address)

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheIslanders/message/1987

The police were sent, like the first time, but when they arrived, Gloria told them that it was a "joke."

The good bits: " I've decided it's time to end this miserable existance. No pills, no knives or razor blades, no guns...I haven't even got the guts to jump off a bridge, so I just refuse to eat. I've lost 20 pounds since the beginning of July. I'm not very heavy, so I'm hoping this won't go on too long. Perhaps, if I had the friendship of my daughters I might be able to continue, but I know that's impossible. They know my moods, and they know that I never meant a word of what I said, during that last and final argument, but they refuse to forgive me. I'm truly sorry for all that's happened. Please believe that. I love you both and I always will. As for everyone else, I apologize for any trouble I've caused you. My mind was screwed up, and I wasn't responsible for what I did. It was my illness talking, and not me. That's all I have to say.
Good-bye.
God bless you, and watch over you, Shawna and Melissa. (her daughters)
There's no need to respond. I'm leaving this group as soon as I've posted this."

But like most Internet suicides, she didn't kill herself and TWO YEARS later she's still alive and posting to this list under her multiple socks!

I think Victoria & Crystal both have reason to fear that Gloria may overtake them in the future for craziest person in fandom award.

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krazycat
2004-08-09 04:41 am UTC (link)

Does this mean I have to comment on the ISP numbers all over again? Oh, why the hell not.

With the help of AOL's security team, we are in the process of bringing charges against the hackers and identity theives that have gained illegal access to her ISP numbers. Maybe you did know this, but just looking at those numbers is a Federal Offence.

The who with the what now? What ISP numbers are these?

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(Anonymous)
2004-08-09 08:07 pm UTC (link)

That would be your "IP address", like 193.21.248.90.

I do not know what that points to, but it's valid. (Numbers from 0 to 255 in all of those slots. 0.0.0.0 and 255.255.255.255 are not valid, and because of subnetting other various combinations don't mean anything either. It's complicated and involves bitwise logic operations.)

It's basically a shorthand way of referring to a computer (the absolute way is the MAC address, which is a hardcoded thingus on your network card).

Saying that looking at an IP address is illegal is like writing a nasty letter and saying that the return address (on the fancy filigreed label!) is private property and reading it is a federal offense. If anyone wants to talk to you on the Internet, they or their computers or somebody's computer somewhere down the chain need to know your IP address.

So if that's illegal, then THE ENTIRE INTERNET IS BREAKING FEDERAL LAW EIGHTEEN BAZILLION TIMES A DAY, which must come as a real surprise to the Department of Defense, who bankrolled the whole Internet Protocol research and development.

--GF

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	krazycat 2004-08-09 08:13 pm UTC (link)
	Right. Well you see, I am aware of what an IP adress is. I was making fun of the poster for saying ISP instead of IP. That is the last time I'm explaining one of my jokes DAMMIT! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	silvernutmeg 2004-08-10 07:07 am UTC (link)
	Although not strictly necessary, that was one of the bestest and funniest explanations EVAR. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	25th_of_april 2004-08-09 04:53 am UTC (link)
	I might as well say again that Ask me if I give a sailing @#$%^ is my new favorite phrase, especially since there's too many characters g What happened with the margins? (Reply to this)(Thread)

This is my favorite
(Anonymous)
2004-08-09 05:48 am UTC (link)

Since the archives to these lists are open, I snooped around and 4 days ago, she threatened to kill people.

Ah, death threats!

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheIslanders/message/2724

The drama, the intrigue, the stupidity.

*headdesk*

Then, a day later she got booted for it. Good to see YG is concerned about their members safety. *laughs hysterically, falls on floor*

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Bad boys, Bad boys, what you gonna do whe they come for you?

alison
2004-08-09 05:05 am UTC (link)

My favorite bit... With the help of AOL's security team, we are in the process of bringing charges against the hackers and identity theives that have
gained illegal access to her ISP numbers. Maybe you did know this,
but just looking at those numbers is a Federal Offence. Yahoo is breaking Federal laws by including those numbers on posts and e-mails.

If AOL has a crack security team, then why can't they figure out after a month of calls why my browser on 9.0 doesn't work?

As for looking at someone IP's numbers being a Federal Offense, what delusional planet are these morons living on? I guess since fandom_wank tracks IP numbers wen we post we are breaking federal law too.

Someone call a cop!

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	Re: Bad boys, Bad boys, what you gonna do whe they come for you? krazycat 2004-08-09 05:15 am UTC (link)
	ISP numbers, not IP numbers. So maybe there really IS a law?? You never know.. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

Re: Bad boys, Bad boys, what you gonna do whe they come for you?

alison
2004-08-09 05:23 am UTC (link)

ISP= Internet Service Provider (i.e. AOL, Earthlink, etc.)
IP= Internet Protocol (not real sure what it is, but I know they are numbers used to track your Internet access)

It looks like this Gloria woman has that mixed up. Looking at someone's IP number is not illegal, nor is posting them. Yahoo Groups includes them in every post and e-mail you sent out, I doubt they would if it was illegal.

I think Gloria needs to take her meds and get rid of her drawer of socks.

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	Re: Bad boys, Bad boys, what you gonna do whe they come for you? (Anonymous) 2004-08-09 05:32 am UTC (link)
	In my line of work, IP=Intellectual Property, and I know there are a lot of laws about not stealing that. :) But still, don't believe that's what he's talking about, either. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: Bad boys, Bad boys, what you gonna do whe they come for you? krazycat 2004-08-09 05:39 am UTC (link)
	I know that :) If someone asked me for my ISP number I'd give them the phone number to my ISP. Only, I'd have to look it up first I supposed. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Bad boys, Bad boys, what you gonna do whe they come for you? krazycat 2004-08-09 05:43 am UTC (link)
	minus d. facepalm goes to bed already (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: Bad boys, Bad boys, what you gonna do whe they come for you? smo 2004-08-09 04:27 pm UTC (link)
	Maybe they meant "crack" as in "smoking it." hates teh AOHell (Reply to this)(Parent)

frau_eva
2004-08-09 05:44 am UTC (link)

But, guess what, that 911 call, was recorded. It will be traced back to the caller, and that caller is going to get a nice stiff fine for filing false police report. That IS a felony. Hope you've got some money set aside for emergencies!...I may have have mentioned suicide, but my moods usually blow over within a day or two. My family just keeps watch to be sure. Of course, if you jerks would all get off my list and leave me alone, I'd start feeling better a whole lot quicker.

Dude, so they were worried about her putting up a freakin' suicide note, called the police to save her, and now tries to get them in trouble and blame them?! Uhhh.....errr....Earth Logic...taking...over.....

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	One Flew Over the Wacko's Nest (Anonymous) 2004-08-09 05:59 am UTC (link)
	She put up TWO notes according to all the links on two separate dates and the members of the list called the cops two different time to save her from killing herself and now she threatens to kill them on a regular basis as a thank you? Men with jacket come and get this broad. No wonder people don't believe Internet suicide notes. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	moonjaguar 2004-08-09 06:19 am UTC (link)
	I mean, come on, what if she was for real about killing herself and actually went and did it? Granted most of it is attention bids but they obviously didn't want to take the chance. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mambo 2004-08-09 03:28 pm UTC (link)
	Okay, I don't remember all the details, but didn't one family try to press charges because a boy didn't call the police when their son wrote about his suicide on IRC? Or John Walsh acted indignant toward him, or something. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

moonjaguar
2004-08-09 06:36 pm UTC (link)

Oh, Ripper. I remember that. From what I understand was he was mixing various prescribed drugs with alcohol and reporting what he was taking and saying "let's see, some more!"

People weren't clear if he was goofing around or actually taking all these drugs. He had his cam on but people can put things in their mouths and then leave it on that image and go spit them out. There was a faked image circulating as well that compared to an actual picture was clearly not him afterwards.

People were trying to trace where he lived or asking if anyone knew where he lived so they could call emergency but it was too late.

brandonvedas.com has the chat logs... I'm going to go look. I feel a bit vulturine but I want to check memory against record as well as see about any possible charges pressed.

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	calling the police to save Gloria's live? (Anonymous) 2004-08-09 06:21 pm UTC (link)
	I'm the one who made that first call. :) There was no need to track me through a taped call, I gave my NAME, phone number, address, city/state and so forth. And my email addy. AND I followed up the next day by faxing to the police all her threats of suicide, and some of her weirder posts. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

Re: calling the police to save Gloria's live?
(Anonymous)
2004-08-10 03:56 am UTC (link)

As the person who made the second call two summers ago after Gloria posted her second suicide note to TheIslanders list (I am a different person that the first mouse). I too gave my real name, home address and phone number when reporting the possible crime to the local police in Gloria's area.

I faxed about 12 pages of Gloria's "suicide" threats and her crazier notes including her home address, so the local police could check her out. Other members of TheIslanders list warned me privately Gloria was pulling another hoax, but I refused to listen, citing the fact that if Gloria really did commit suicide I couldn't live with myself if I hadn't done something beforehand.

The police went to Gloria's house and again she stated it was a joke. The police officer I talked to the next day, certainly didn't think it was funny and told me if Gloria did it again she could be arrested; as it was a waste of his time and manpower by pulling these hoaxes, not once but twice now! He suggested we call the county on her to do a psych eval and maybe commit her. I figured why bother, burnt once, not trying again.

Gloria the next day accused the members of the list of trying to ruin her life. No, trying to save it was more like it! Yeah, sorry I tried to save you, Gloria.

Gloria has cried wolf so many times now, that I believe even if she was standing in front of me ready to jump off a bridge I wouldn't believe her.

She is deeply disturbed but I believe aware of everything she does including creating ALL the socks and takes great fun in using them to harass and bully people. Using her mental illness (to me, depression isn't an excuse for creating a sockpuppett army) speaks volumes of her character. Crazy like a fox is more like it. Don't feel sorry for her.... I made that mistake once, never again.

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	I just wanted to say... aruru 2004-08-09 08:18 pm UTC (link)
	Icon love. LMAO XD (Reply to this)(Parent)

(Anonymous)
2004-08-09 06:07 am UTC (link)

Way back when in the early days of OneList, "Gloria" used to post news items from the latest AOL news of the day -- not the links, but the whole freakin' story! Totally OT, and never with an OT flag, so she'd clog up your mailboxes right and left.

She also used to trawl the membership lists of whatever groups she was part of and spam listees with some sales pitch or other -- like hoaxes for Outback Steakhouse and Red Lobster. I vaguely recall her getting called on it by a list moderator, and then whining about needing the extra money.

Anonymouse
('cause I don't want the FBI comin' after me for daring to look up her IP address...one wacko at a time is all I can handle)

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(Anonymous)
2004-08-09 06:30 am UTC (link)

I've been on a couple of vampire lists "Gloria" has been on. She regularly has about 20 socks at her disposal at a time and they talk amongst themselves on any given day. After one of the suicide notes, one Gloria sock told her "not to do it!" It would would funny if it wasn't so ridiculous.

After a few years, I've learned to ignore it.

I still think Yahoo should have banned her and her IP numbers for life when on the Dark Shadows (The OldHouse) list she threatened to blow that guys "brains" out a few years ago with a gun. At the time there was talk about filing a police report which is I think the only thing that will stop her at this point.

I think being arrested for sending threatening and harassing communications might snap her out of her craziness - or not. I personally thinks she gets off on all the attention.

Another mouse
--who doesn't want the lunancy that is Gloria invading her life, so not posting my name

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Look out, gruesome technical details

maureenlycaon
2004-08-10 01:27 pm UTC (link)

I still think Yahoo should have banned her and her IP numbers for life . . .

Unfortunately, the only way for the average person to have a fixed IP address is if they have broadband. If they're on a dialup (like me), their IP number will change every single time they log onto the Net. ISP's own a range of IP numbers (confused yet?), and they use a whole bunch for their modem pool; each dialup user gets a randomly assigned IP when they log in. In such cases, the only thing that can be done is to ban their ISP from the forum, which will also block anyone else using that ISP. If it's some tiny little ISP with a hundred customers in Backwater, Alaska, they can get away with it, but if the ISP is AOL or Earthlink . . . well, the forum's likely to lose a major percentage of its members.

So, sadly, if she's using dialup, there's little Yahoo can do except play whack-a-mole with her sockpuppets, deleting them one by one as they're found.

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	Some Things Never Change jerry_ds_girl 2004-08-09 08:16 am UTC (link)
	http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/40587.html (Reply to this)

	nostalgia 2004-08-09 09:30 am UTC (link)
	gets out the popcorn Oooh, this is Classic Wank. She rivals even Crystal for sheer insanity and failure to credit other people with brains. eats popcorn (Reply to this)

	mouseybrown 2004-08-09 03:55 pm UTC (link)
	Is there a fandom law for suicide threats? Something along the lines of "you get the first suicide threat for free, but after the second one you have to do it. Preferably on-line, with a webcam so we can all see." What a batshit crazy bitch this 'Gloria' is. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	smo 2004-08-09 04:28 pm UTC (link)
	If there isn't, I vote we use that exact wording. (Reply to this)(Parent)

missambs
2004-08-09 06:10 pm UTC (link)

She and um, "ex-Pig" mention us here

> Again, made an ass out of yourself. Not Sharon. Who is she? I am
> someone who reads this OPEN archive for a laugh. You've also been
> mentioned on fandom_wank, sweetie. Links were supplied to this list.
> --------------------------------------
talking about someone behind their back is something called
slander,Mr. ex-pig, and defamation of charcater. You can be sued for
that.

I can't wait until someone links her to f_w, yo. The results would be fucking funny.

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	A friend of the police (Anonymous) 2004-08-09 06:24 pm UTC (link)
	Even more hysterically, Gloria has insisted that she is a friend of the police, and they are good friends of hers (see the suicide threats and her responses to the police coming to her house). A couple of her socks have been "retired" policemen. And yet once a former cop gets on her case, suddenly it is "Mr ExPig." !!! Oi. (Reply to this)(Parent)

mouseybrown
2004-08-09 07:55 pm UTC (link)

talking about someone behind their back is something called
slander,Mr. ex-pig, and defamation of charcater. You can be sued for
that.

Someone should educate her that:

1. Simply talking about someone without their direct knowledge is not slander. Possibly libel (given it's on the net and in writing and all) but not slander (which relates to speech); and

2. It's not defamation if it's true.

Did someone say she's got daughters? I hate to think how much pollution Little Miss Batshit Crazy has done to the gene pool.

Won't someone think of the social DNA??????

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Gloria's daughters
(Anonymous)
2004-08-10 04:00 am UTC (link)

Look through the archives on TheIslanders, Gloria used to call her daughters all sorts of nasty names, "sluts," "whores," "bitches" and curse at them and tell people she didn't have any children (she and her husband disowned them or something).

Apparently the daughters had the good sense to cut ties with her and move out and she retaliated by publicly cursing them up and down the Internet. Some mother.

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(Anonymous)
2004-08-09 07:11 pm UTC (link)

Sigh. Gloria's just a little too desperate for me to be able to laugh at her. This reminds me of that Smallville wank where the person with the sockpuppets could have been out doing something constructive instead of badgering people other people.

Don't get me wrong; I love lurking and laughing at things on this community. But this wank just kind of leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

detoxspongecake @ Livejournal

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	misswindy 2004-08-09 07:47 pm UTC (link)
	I think this may rival KryptonSybil, in scope, if not in pure unadulterated evilness. (Reply to this)

	(Anonymous) 2004-08-09 08:12 pm UTC (link)
	Omg. The stupid, it huuuuuuuuuuurts. I think my brain just hit a brick wall running 346 mph. That's what it feels like, at least. headdesk ~Ash (Reply to this)

	cesare 2004-08-09 09:20 pm UTC (link)
	OT, but could you please fix your post so that the margins aren't screwed up? The first two lines aren't wrapping correctly. It looks like somehow you managed to get a "pre" tag in the HTML-- "pre" for preformatted, which can fuck up word wrapping. Please take a look at it. It's not just affecting the post, it's stretching out my friends page. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	rosalita 2004-08-10 04:07 am UTC (link)
	Did that help? I kinda guessed at a fix because the post looks fine to me, but I removed a pre tag. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	cesare 2004-08-10 04:48 am UTC (link)
	Yes, that fixed it. Thank you! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	xero_sky 2004-08-09 09:47 pm UTC (link)
	Once again I can only sit here and wallow in bitter envy at someone who has the time and energy to be that batshit insane on the net. sniffles If only I didn't have this stupid real life to deal with! I could have been one of the batshit GREATS! Woe. (Reply to this)

	darkvalkyrie 2004-08-09 09:58 pm UTC (link)
	dies and is ded The ~~attention-whoring~~ crazy, it burns! (Reply to this)