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	(Anonymous) 2004-08-24 02:07 am UTC (link)
	Someone knows who it is and isn't telling. http://www.livejournal.com/users/fandom_scruples/2451.html?thread=232851#t232851 (Reply to this)(Thread)

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*g* - prettyveela, 2004-08-25 10:39 am UTC

whoa - prettyveela, 2004-08-25 10:37 am UTC

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Re: You called? - (Anonymous), 2004-08-25 06:19 pm UTC

	naienko 2004-08-24 02:07 am UTC (link)
	I think my face fell off at the first few lines there. I didn't need any damn pr0n to figure THAT home-truth out! (Reply to this)

	(Anonymous) 2004-08-24 02:15 am UTC (link)
	It's all clear to me now: I've been poisoned! I blame it on gov't conspiracies. And now, please excuse me while I go flog my conscience over my BDSM-centred sex life. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	moonjaguar 2004-08-24 02:36 am UTC (link)
	When is this going to be funny? (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	backfromspace 2004-08-24 03:04 am UTC (link)
	You know, ladyjaida there has a very good point. Adam and Eve frolic in the nude until they eat the fruit of knowledge, thus metaphorically becoming adults and feeling shame about their bodies and sex. ...therefore, according to the Bible, children are the only people who can look at naked bodies. Full nudity is what keeps children innocent! Wacky. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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schoenschoen 2004-08-24 03:54 am UTC (link)

Wait... Is this the Harry/Ginny-shipper that's all pissed off because there's too much Harry/Everyone Else smut and not enough H/G smut, therefore all smut is bad and do you know where they can score some H/G NC-17 btw? Or was that one of the eight others that have been reported here. X_x Far as that goes, though, he (or she) *is* pretty funny. Here, let me try this! Sexual freedom = happiness Everyone knows this is a lie. We should all live in sexual bondage. Or, failing that, just regular master/slave situations. I know that makes *me* happy. Perverted sex is more enjoyable than "normal" sex (incest, BDSM, etc) So 'perverted sex' is incest, BDSM, and etc (whatever the hell etc sex is - sex using ecstasy?), which leads me to believe that everything else is "normal". Well, that sure relieves me - all this time, I thought fucking horses was *sure* to land me in Hell. Sexual expression is a right, not a God-given or God-defined gift I am so confused by this one. Does this mean that we're still allowed to express our sexuality and we just have to be extra thankful to God for it, or does this mean we have to pray to be sexual, and then when God answers we can go ahead? In the last case, I would really, *really* hate to be God. Can you imagine how many pleas the poor guy/girl/he-she would get everyday from people who want to get their rocks off? O_o Sex is something to be done primarily for self gratification Because, you know, the other reason - procreation - is *all* you're supposed to have sex for. Wait, that was the point he was trying to make, wasn't it? Oops. Anyway, this guy makes me sad I've not turned on my computer in the past three weeks. ^^ (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	Bummer, dudes jess_d_ripper 2004-08-24 04:26 am UTC (link)
	He/She/It has cleaned house and turned off commenting. Well, now I'm bored. Who wants waffles? (Reply to this)(Thread)

Re: Bummer, dudes - serai, 2004-08-24 04:29 am UTC

Re: Bummer, dudes - lm, 2004-08-24 05:21 am UTC

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Small Angelwank --- (Anonymous) 2004-08-24 04:42 am UTC (link)

I'm one of the writers for Legends Never Die, ( http://www.legendsneverdie.4096.sk ) a rather nice site devoted to writing an online season six for the show 'Angel'. Well, someone invaded our guestbook, posting fake entries about Matt and Cale gaying it up --- Cale linked me to it in YIM. I actually believe it's just them being stupid, so I post a big post about them making us look bad -- and also involving Ass-Bandits 2. Evidently, this guy is a former writer for the site, who Cale tells me is seriously disturbed. I believe he said the guy is "a little crazy" --- but I prefer to think of it as a Super Sized Crazy with a side of Nutty Fries. It's not really wanky yet, but I really think the splooge is going to fly at some point. I'd post this myself if I A) had a JF account and B) wasn't involved. Therefore, I am leaving it in your capable, well-lubed hands. ~Ash (Reply to this)(Thread)

Re: Small Angelwank --- - lavenderfrost, 2004-08-24 04:51 am UTC

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Re: Small Angelwank --- - mbutterflye, 2004-08-25 01:50 am UTC

	(Anonymous) 2004-08-24 04:57 am UTC (link)
	It's like he's trying to tell me something. Your cute amusing kid but I don't understand a word you're saying. (Reply to this)

kalika_maxwell 2004-08-24 06:10 am UTC (link)

Sexual freedom = happiness -Is it saying no sexual freedom is better? I'm fairly sure 'freedom' tends to make people happier. Don't we make wars over it? Perverted sex is more enjoyable than "normal" sex (incest, BDSM, etc) -Are those examples of 'perverted sex' or 'normal sex'? There are no consequences to sexual promiscuity -Course there isn't. It's not like we ever leave the house long enough to learn how the world works. All we know is what pron teaches us. We also believe everything hollywood tells us. Sexual expression is a right, not a God-given or God-defined gift -I have to believe in God to have sex? And just one too? Shesh, so complicated. You can live a healthy life with the porn images floating around in your mind -I'm of the opinion looking at pron is better than trying to act it out just because you're horny. But maybe it believes in letting in out in RL right away. As far as I know, my life's pretty healthy. No drug, no (real) sex, no alcohol. Just me, my loving family and schoolwork. Porn doesn't harm anyone -*blank look* Are we talking about sex or rape here? Sex is something to be done primarily for self gratification -Of course not. You should entirely do it to over populate the world some more. That's the only reasonable way to take care of hormones, have babies. Every week. Children can view porn without any lasting side effects -Uh oh. Do I freak out now? I hadn't noticed those effects, but me and my sister are probably going to die from them any day now! Porn will help your sex life -Pron is my alternative to sex life. Porn is just a harmless thing that everybody looks at -Well, yes? Yeah, I'm bored enough to try and amuse myself with this. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	(Anonymous) 2004-08-24 07:58 am UTC (link)
	http://scarah.slashcity.net/gallery/details.php?image_id=65 http://scarah.slashcity.net/gallery/details.php?image_id=68 (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	oysteria 2004-08-24 08:14 am UTC (link)
	All I know is that porn allows me to lead a life filled with spontaneous giggle fits I can't explain to parents or employers. I'd say that improves my quality of life... (Reply to this)

lindentree 2004-08-24 08:34 am UTC (link)

You can live a healthy life with the porn images floating around in your mind Well, I don't know about healthy, but it's certainly more interesting! What else was I supposed to think about during mass all through high school? Porn has seen me through every religious service I've ever attended. I owe porn my sanity! Porn doesn't harm anyone Porn doesn't hurt people. People hurt people! Children can view porn without any lasting side effects Oh, please. I found a bunch of Hustler mags under my brother's bed when I was 9, and I went all dry-mouthed and bug-eyed, but I wasn't traumatised. I didn't turn into some kind of pervert or reprobate. Oh, wait. From his perspective, I did! Oops. My bad. That's where the underage Bellatrix/Narcissa HP femmeslash came from. Damn you, Larry Flynt! Porn will help your sex life Well, yeah. Isn't that its primary purpose? It's certainly enhanced mine. Maybe the concept that healthy people (even *gasp!* heterosexual couples!) use porn to add spice to their sex lives is foreign to this tool. Yeah, there's no maybe about it. Just... mneh. F_S ought to either find a new dead horse to beat, or at least turn comments back on so he can be roasted and I can be amused. Dance, monkey, dance! (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	kraken_sleeps 2004-08-24 12:09 pm UTC (link)
	I hope that whatever you think about me I have at the very least made you think. Oh, he has. Unfortunately, it's untypeable. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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mister_terrific 2004-08-24 06:23 pm UTC (link)

Children can view porn without any lasting side effects A little tale from my past: Back when I was a nice, honorable Cub Scout, my den was run by my mother. This was unfortunate, as my fellow Cubs could be naughty little shits and get away with it, but nooooooo, I had to be The Example. At any rate, meetings were held in the basement of our house. We were hard at work on a Christmas project (something that used glue, glitter, felt and popsicle sticks no doubt), and at some point my mother realized that her troop was vanishing one by one. She came upstairs... ...and found us all giggling insanely as we thumbed through my father's latest issue of Playboy. In this case my childhood viewing of porn did lead to one lasting side effect. I couldn't sit down for the rest of the evening. Mister Terrific Defender of Fair Play. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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psychofangirl 2004-08-24 08:35 pm UTC (link)

"I feel sorry for all of you." Your "pity" is about as necessary as a case of anthrax. "When I browse through your journals a good deal of you are lonely and depraved human beings and maybe you were just poisoned once upon a time." Keep telling yourself that. "I hope that whatever you think about me I have at the very least made you think." Yea, it made me think all right. I think your an idiot. There. (Reply to this)

	coffee_mug 2004-08-24 09:35 pm UTC (link)
	Yes, us pr0n fans are lonely & depraved. And our online journals tells exactly how we are. In no way does it represent only one side of us or perhaps just archive our thoughts to do with fandom or such things. No, our LiveJournals and JournalFens and Blurties are windows to our souls. Yep. F_S has us all figured out. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	vanilla_tiger 2004-08-24 09:39 pm UTC (link)
	My idea of love comes from a childhood glimpse of pornography I therefore state my theory that fandom_scruples is really Richey Edwards. He has returned to save us all from our sinful ways It's the obvious answer. Because we all remember just how anti-sexuality the early Manic Street Preachers were, don't we? (Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - belafarinrod, 2004-08-24 09:41 pm UTC

Note to self: world is not as obsessed as you are - vanilla_tiger, 2004-08-24 09:48 pm UTC

Re: Note to self: world is not as obsessed as you are - belafarinrod, 2004-08-24 10:45 pm UTC

Re: Note to self: world is not as obsessed as you are - (Anonymous), 2004-08-25 04:53 am UTC

Re: Note to self: world is not as obsessed as you are - vanilla_tiger, 2004-08-25 10:47 pm UTC

Re: Note to self: world is not as obsessed as you are - dew_chan, 2004-08-26 04:27 am UTC

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belafarinrod 2004-08-24 09:40 pm UTC (link)

Sexual freedom = happiness Well, I do think there's a strong link between freedom and happiness. Sexual such is just one of many - I would be unhappy if I was not allowed to express my sexuality, just as I would be unhappy if, say my political ideas were forbidden Perverted sex is more enjoyable than "normal" sex (incest, BDSM, etc) My reading kinks differs very much from my RL kinks, thank you very much. This is because we modertaly sane people can differ between "fantasy" ie not real and "fact" ie what is actually going on around us. Thus, while rape fantasies are quite common, most people are not in favour of true rape. But I guess that's to abstract to someone with your limited view on things There are no consequences to sexual promiscuity Who ever said that? Fanficers looooove to smother us in angst by having their little gai-bois being OMG!repressed by the ebil society. Besides, most HP fic ends with the main characters finding their one true love at 16 >.< Sexual expression is a right, not a God-given or God-defined gift Well, duh. How can a nonexistant entity give me anything? [/provocative statements] Don't mix religion into a non-religious discussion or people will just take you for a fundie twerp. You can live a healthy life with the porn images floating around in your mind Yup. Otherwise all teenage males would be extinct by now Porn doesn't harm anyone While I think pictures of sex and/or naked people are essentially harmless, I agree that the porn industry has harmed a lot of people. How-ev-er! HP fanfic or fanart doesn't involve real people, thus it is harmless. And if you think Harry and the gang are real... see a good doctor asap. Sex is something to be done primarily for self gratification No, dear, mutual gratification. Smutwriter gets feedback = smutwriter happy. Smutreader gets porn = smutreader happy. Children can view porn without any lasting side effects They shouldn't be force-fed it, no. That's why you shouldn't show an X-rated movie right after whatever todays popular kiddie show is. But the internet is for adults, so any child/teen old enough to go there unsupervised who has interest in reading porn is, in my mind, welcome to it. If the parents disagree, they are welcome to restrain their kid. So not my job though Porn will help your sex life It may certainly help your masturbation, which I see no problem it. You don't get much safer sex than that Porn is just a harmless thing that everybody looks at No, not everyone likes porn. I for one don't watch 'real' porno flicks they just don't interest me. But I won't go out and tell everyone who does to OMFG! Stop it you morally retarded bastards or you will buuuuuu~uuurn! (Reply to this)

	smirnoffmule 2004-08-24 10:18 pm UTC (link)
	Sexual freedom = happiness Whereas everyone knows repression, guilt and confusion is the true road to enlightenment. People are so SILLY. Please don your boxing gloves now, and go sit in that corner. And don't fiddle with it, for Christ's sake! (Reply to this)(Thread)

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smirnoffmule 2004-08-24 10:29 pm UTC (link)

Y'know, if I invited someone to come along to, say, a Pagan drumming festival with me, or to tuck into a portion of my burning virgin, and they said "No thanks, I'm a Christian", I'd say, fine, and I'd leave it at that. I'd respect it, you know. So I don't see why Mr FS feels that non-Christians should be even a tiny bit convinced by his argument. Putting the word "god" in any sentence doth not a convicing argument made to people who don't already believe. Your starting in the middle. Go back to first principles. Or, just stop trying, because you're just making an ass out of me and you. That, and he should respect my non-Christian culture, man! Mmm. Get with the cooked virgin goose. (Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - smirnoffmule, 2004-08-24 10:30 pm UTC

	sarajayechan 2004-08-25 12:24 am UTC (link)
	Looking at porn helps you start to believe the lies it promotes blah blah blah having sexual feelings is bad sex is dirty and icky and only for making babies like good heterosexual couples blah blah blah They should just give up. No one's listening to them. (Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - lindentree, 2004-08-25 01:24 am UTC

Nice scruples, eh? - liebestod, 2004-08-25 05:58 am UTC

terminal_frost 2004-08-25 03:36 am UTC (link)

Methinks this fandom_scruples fellow doth flatter himself too much with his "higher insight" and "deep understanding of the effects porn has on people". To me, porn is the "imaginary lover" people sing about on the radio. It always loves you. It never leaves you. It's there for you - good times and bad. It's never jealous when you take out another porn story/artwork/flick for the evening. And it's always happy to see you when you get home from wherever you were originally. What the world needs is an International Porn Appreciation Day. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	(Anonymous) 2004-08-25 02:55 pm UTC (link)
	For a journal based on telling off authors who don't do password-protection, they've certainly branched out. (Reply to this)

	elanor_durall 2004-08-25 08:27 pm UTC (link)
	Does this wanker really need four separate point-by-point rebuttals? (Reply to this)