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Larathia ([info]larathia) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-08-30 11:24:00


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Entry tags:comics

*waves* Long time reader, first time poster, yadda yadda.

For my initial offering, may I present a comic artist attempting to tell his fen how they must address correspondence to him?



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[info]mrbimble
2004-08-30 07:31 pm UTC (link)
I dunno. Didn't seem wanky to me. Sounds like a guy that's tired of dealing with Idiot!Fen writing him with a sense of entitlement.

YMMV.

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[info]snacky
2004-08-30 10:17 pm UTC (link)
I'm with [info]mrbimble here. Not so much wanky - in fact, I was getting flashbacks to the sections in my English grammar books on "how to write a bread and butter note."

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[info]silvernutmeg
2004-08-30 07:41 pm UTC (link)
At the very least, this needs to be an icon. (Not that mine are working, or anything.)

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*** Not available in Guam. Commercial is not meant to imply that Hard is mean or doesn't like anyone that didn't actually merit it. ^_-

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[info]aloysius
2004-08-30 07:58 pm UTC (link)
That's nothing compared to what Matsushita Yoko wrote in volume six of Yami no Matsuei.

I so wish Viz is going to translate that one accurately. Wait for it, people. It's a gem.

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[info]mistressrenet
2004-08-30 08:27 pm UTC (link)
C'mon, at least paraphrase for us! Or link!

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[info]rinoared
2004-08-30 08:57 pm UTC (link)
I remember there being some bitching about using pencils... Gotta be ink, y'know!

Ah, Katcom, I love your links page. *pimps* KatCom */pimps*

The a/n translations: here

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[info]mistressrenet
2004-08-30 09:09 pm UTC (link)
Ah, here it is.

KatCom is kewl. I've probably read that Watari article twenty times...I'd forgotten they had the a/n translations there.

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[info]charmian
2004-08-30 09:10 pm UTC (link)
They don't have volume six on this one, I'm afraid.

Now I'm really curious. Someone else I knew also said that she became annoyed with Matsushita-sensei.

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[info]rinoared
2004-08-30 09:21 pm UTC (link)
Must've been on the ML then, I could've sworn I saw that translation somewhere...

But it was basically Matsushita berating her fans of writing to her and a) using a pencil instead of proper ink, b) mentioning other mangakas and asking about her influences. Oh, and apparently it really ticked her off when people kept asking if she'd drawn any doujinshi. Which she hasn't. But if you read all those translated notes it won't be much of a surprise.

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(Anonymous)
2004-08-30 10:05 pm UTC (link)
And to NOT use cheap paper...

And to take the time to write correctly and use the dictionary. And I agreed with most of what she said (if maybe NOT the way it was said ^_~)... She probably had to read lots of those crappy notes and got fed-up... Her message was more like "If you want to be read, then do this "..." or forget it...

Mirichan (too lazy to find my password ^_^).

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[info]moonjaguar
2004-08-31 04:24 am UTC (link)
And there's that perse again! Thanks to you I learned another Finnish word besides "J. Marttiini".

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[info]aloysius
2004-08-30 09:24 pm UTC (link)
She uses all the free talks in volume two to instruct people in how to write fan letters.

1. Never use pencil on the envelope!!! (Exclamationpoints hers.)
2. Write your address on the back of the envelope.
(To be quite honest I think these are basic etiquette. There's the fact that I don't want Matsushita to lecture me on anything, but I understand her frustration.)
3. State clearly who you're addressing the letter to.
4. Be polite. Start with "Hello" or "How do you do". You're not writing to your friend, you know?
5. Write cleanly and carefully.
6. A LOOOOOONG instruction on what paper you should write the letters on. (She likes simple stationary best, people! She likes blue! Animals, too! She hates furoku! She hates stuff with anime characters! Remember that!!!)
7. Don't send her jewery. She doesn't wear jewery, dammit! And the ones you send are ugly, anyway.
8. If you're going to use dojin stationary, use the same one throughout! Don't use several different kinds! That's hard to read!
9. Don't use your penname! That's, like, so pointless!
10. Use blue or black ink.

(I do believe that was all.)

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[info]aloysius
2004-08-30 09:25 pm UTC (link)
Volume six. Not two. I suck.

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[info]mistressrenet
2004-08-30 09:30 pm UTC (link)
She's a nutjob, isn't she? But her boys are so pretty.

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[info]rinoared
2004-08-30 11:29 pm UTC (link)
Well, you know what they say... takes one to write one. Or two. Or a whole cast of them.

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[info]mistressrenet
2004-08-31 12:11 am UTC (link)
Good point, excellent point. Though Nightow seems terribly well-adjusted.

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[info]diamonde
2004-08-31 12:05 am UTC (link)
Everything else is less critical, but I have to agree with her on the pencil thing. I delivered parcels in christmas-present season one year and the way parcels get handled then, well, between the pencil and shitty handwriting you'd get a number could be a two, a one or a seven and I wasn't going to care about it unless there were really pretty stamps. Basic common sense there, don't write the address in something that's going to smudge or rub right off.

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[info]hotpinkdragones
2004-08-30 08:45 pm UTC (link)
To tell you the truth, I see it as more a comic artist making some suggestions about how to politely involve yourself with other people online. Having received some of the most bizarre e-mail myself over the years of my involvement in fandom, it's a topic that some people need to have addressed.

Another part that he didn't mention: even if you're online 24/7, don't presume that everyone is. Don't believe you're being ignored if the recipient doesn't respond in 15 minutes or less. Don't send them increasing whiny and violently worded e-mail over the next two hours because you think you're being ignored.

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(Anonymous)
2004-08-30 08:50 pm UTC (link)
I disagree with the above. That post was arch, arrogant, and completely out of touch with how the art of correspondence has changed with the advent of e-mail. You CAN jot off a quick note to a total stranger, and as long as you're friendly and polite there's no need to AGONIZE over it. Sheesh.

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[info]redjackcash
2004-08-30 08:58 pm UTC (link)

You can. This does not mean you SHOULD. And I imagine it as quite different from a quick casual e-mail we may send to a friend as opposed to when someone gets tons of e-mail every day from people he or she does not know, without form and proper spelling, yelling suggestions or acting casual out of place.

However, this isn't really wank. Plus it's old as time.

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[info]hotpinkdragones
2004-08-30 09:17 pm UTC (link)
Huh? His post is ABOUT creating an art of correspondence associated with e-mail. It's suggestions about how to create a "quick note" that is friendly and polite. (And that makes sense to the person who receives it.)

Of course, most "quick notes" I've received from total strangers in fandom haven't been friendly, polite, or usually even understandable . . . so that's where I'm coming from. Sadly, the idiots who are sending off those nonsensical "quick notes" aren't going to reform, so it's a totally useless effort.

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Meh.
[info]lurker32
2004-08-30 09:06 pm UTC (link)
The only connection I see is the "use the penname even if it is a corny penname" bit, and even that isn't all that unreasonable. It's not like he's demanding tribute or to be addressed as Your Munificent Funniness at all times, or something.

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[info]gloria_mundi
2004-08-30 10:01 pm UTC (link)
Hard wanks constantly. Pretty much every LJ post is him wanking about something.

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[info]herring
2004-08-31 01:26 am UTC (link)
I wouldn't expect any less from the creator of Sexy Losers. (In particular, the Mike's Left Hand storyline.) Snrk.

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[info]gloria_mundi
2004-08-31 01:30 am UTC (link)
Well if I lived with Mike, I'd probably wank too. Actually, I'd probably kill him.

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[info]phosfate
2004-08-30 11:12 pm UTC (link)
Eh. He's kinda stiff, but considering how many people out there actually manage to write illegible e-mail, I can't find it all that wanky.

One giggle-worthy reader's comment: "What a beautiful tribute to etiquette. I am definitely memorying that."

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It's long and drawn out but..
[info]moonjaguar
2004-08-31 03:07 am UTC (link)
A lot of those guys (and gals) get email/snail mail from some real winner fans. I remember this one girl in a chat room who'd send daily e-mails of forwarded jokes, pictures of naked fat women and other things people sent her to a comic book artist and writer and she thought that he would enjoy them because she thought they were funny and she acted as if he wuz her speshul frend. All I could think was jeez, this guy gets a clogged inbox as it is. And people wonder how some of them get a reputation as "assholes" or "hating their fans".

I don't think it's all their fans they get aggravated with, it's that there's usually some rude clods who are squeaky wheel PIAs that try the varying patience levels. Of course, there are some artists/writers who are asshats period.

I don't feel this guy was coming off as wanky or an asshat IMO. I think this fellow was saying in how he e-mails people, he was saying what kind of e-mails he likes to get. And he did say "your mileage may vary". He's not speaking for everyone but it's food for thought.

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[info]adora_spintriae
2004-09-01 03:35 am UTC (link)
Oh yes, I was waiting for Hard to get wanked.

After the fuckwit kicked the forum "Blah blah blah the site is getting like a forum with a comic tacked on" meaning "You guys are more popular and entertaining than me so you have to go" (can you tell I'm an ex-forum member much?), then proceeded to spend every second update of the comic saying "THIS IS THE LAST ONE FOR REAL FOLKS!!1one" I'm surprised he hasn't been here earlier.

And yes, he's fucking paranoid about anyone contacting him regarding the comic in any form, because of the whole past Thin H Line/Sexylosers melodrama bullshit that went down. This obviously also extends to the content of the fenmail.

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[info]alden
2004-09-05 05:29 pm UTC (link)
I just have to thank you for not making a horrid virginity- and/or lubricant-related reference to this being your first post. Yay!

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