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	o_o meshou 2004-09-05 10:47 am UTC (link)
	Let me get this straight... the troll was arguing that if you were a big fan of Starsky and Hutch, then you might give a pediatric AIDS foundation a bad name by giving it money? Wait... what? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	Re: o_o snacky 2004-09-05 09:19 pm UTC (link)
	No, it looked to me like the "troll" was saying if you are a mega-obsessed fan of Paul Michael Glaser's, you won't be doing the EGPAF any favors by going to work for them because it will look like you're more interested in starfucking than in doing charitable good works. At least that's what I read. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

Re: o_o

serai
2004-09-05 09:23 pm UTC (link)

Yeah, that's what I got from the first comment. Looks like a case of some oversensitive fan getting OMGSOHUUUURT by what was a simple observation. The commenter is right - acting like an obssessive nutjob online isn't going to work well for her aspirations should she ever be connected to it. It really doesn't matter if she is or isn't - this kind of internet involvement can easily be misinterpreted.

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Re: o_o

kimberlyfdr
2004-09-18 07:27 pm UTC (link)

(Just discovered I was the subject of a wank, so I came over to check it out;)

The first dialogue between me and Helene was a perfectly sensible dialogue. It was the resulting back and forth between her and others that exploded. I made a few observations on some of her comments, but mostly I just sat back and watched.

The commenter is right - acting like an obssessive nutjob online isn't going to work well for her aspirations should she ever be connected to it.

Ahh, yes. But really, what line is obsession and what is fandom interest? As I pointed out to her, being involved in fandom and being involved in my work, not really an overlap at all. Some may think it is, but it's not.

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Re: o_o

serai
2004-09-19 04:20 am UTC (link)

It may not seem that way to you, but it's the employer's opinion that counts in this kind of situation. That's why it's best not to connect one's real life identity with fannish interests at all. I've heard way too many stories about perfectly nice fans having their jobs endangered because someone at their work found out they were involved in online stuff. And those weren't people whose work was even remotely connected with their fandom. When you're involved in real life in a job that is connected with fandom, and where the higher-ups may very well view such involvement with a jaundiced eye, it raises the risk factor exponentially.

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Re: o_o

kimberlyfdr
2004-09-19 04:28 am UTC (link)

Agreed, and by the time I ever move up the ranks of the organization (which I am involved in at lower levels at present), my fandom identity and my real identity will be even more completely seperate than they are at present. While I do not see as big an overlap as others do, I would not do anything to jeopardize either my goals or the goals the organization in the identity I present.

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	Re: o_o (Anonymous) 2004-09-19 05:12 am UTC (link)
	what do you mean you're involved? i've been reading all this with a lot of interest and I don't understand your post. could you explain it a bit please? thanx (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: o_o kimberlyfdr 2004-09-19 05:22 am UTC (link)
	Feel free to email me with any questions you might have (kimberlyFDR@yahoo.com) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: o_o meshou 2004-09-05 09:29 pm UTC (link)
	Oooh. I knew I was missing something. insert violation of Juris Imprudence Laws involving sick child and up late-ness effecing good reading, and subsiquent foot munching (Reply to this)(Parent)

krazycat
2004-09-05 01:07 pm UTC (link)

aah, there it is.

Duh -- it's way too late. I should be packing, and trying to avoid that via the internet isn't working.

But.. wait..
Friend of OP comments that she's talking to the OP and who's telling her "just how offensive and cruel she found your remark".
That sounds very high school. I'm really not interested in a 'I'm Kimberly's friend and you're not' kind of discussion. Outgrew that decades ago.

and friend:
Glad you're so amused by your trollish behavior. Someone ought to be getting some amusement out of this.
*waves to friend* I am I am!

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	kinneas 2004-09-05 09:28 pm UTC (link)
	It sounds more middle school than high school to me. :D (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	krazycat 2004-09-05 09:41 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, indeed. I'm mature! No, I AM MORE MATURE! ARE NOT! AM TOO! ARE NOT! AM TOOOOOOOO!! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	kinneas 2004-09-05 09:42 pm UTC (link)
	Ahhh, middle school. Just past Power Rangers and not quite weed and shot glasses. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	krazycat 2004-09-05 09:43 pm UTC (link)
	But with hair pulling! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2004-09-05 09:45 pm UTC (link)
	Your icon. Holy fucking god. That.. is both hilarious and disturbing. Especially because PH is naked. Which I never noticed until just now. Wow. can't decide whether to stare or hurriedly close window (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	kinneas 2004-09-05 09:46 pm UTC (link)
	PYRAMID HEAD EATS YOUR CHILDREN AND RAPES YOUR MANNEQUINS. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2004-09-05 09:48 pm UTC (link)
	... There's Pyramid Head/Mannequin porn, isn't there? I bet there is. shudders (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	kinneas 2004-09-05 09:49 pm UTC (link)
	I wouldn't be surprised. He's a total fishnetdoll's man. Complete playa'. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	(Anonymous) 2004-09-05 09:51 pm UTC (link)
	Hahaha. Damn. I really should stop being a wimp and beat SH2. But I accidentally found out what happens right after getting past through the hospital and am nervous to see the cutscene. Wow. I just realized that I'm fairly pathetic. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	kinneas 2004-09-05 09:52 pm UTC (link)
	Ha ha. Have fun. Those games scare the shit out of me. ...Especially when my town decides to have a scheduled citywide power outage just as my watch beeps midnight in the dark, unlit, nonwindowed room :D (Reply to this)(Parent)

	adora_spintriae 2004-09-06 03:27 am UTC (link)
	YOu did better than me. When I got the the first part in the original game where you're in the school and something comes creeping at you out of the darkness in the toilet, I screamed and ran out of the room. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	alden 2004-09-05 05:32 pm UTC (link)
	~whisper~ I didn't even know Starsky & Hutch had a fandom. You'd think I'd stop being surprised by things like this, but no. Always I am full of wonder. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	gelasius 2004-09-05 06:24 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, yes. It's one of the original slash fandoms, after Star Trek! :) Also, so very very slashy. Really. I mean, have you seen that show? The original buddy-cops-in-luv... if you go for that sort of thing. I'll be in my bunk (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	alden 2004-09-05 10:44 pm UTC (link)
	Ohhhh my goodness, good icon! And, who wouldn't go for buddy-cops-in-love? I just... um... somehow didn't know there was a fandom. ~sigh~ (Reply to this)(Parent)

	phosfate 2004-09-06 12:46 am UTC (link)
	Very old-school -- ties for second major fic fandom with Star Wars. I've got S&H zines that were printed on mimeo machines. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	marginalsanity 2004-09-06 03:01 am UTC (link)
	Slashers from the sixties, baby. I should know, my aunt is one of them. ;) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	adora_spintriae 2004-09-06 03:29 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, it's one of them uber-fandoms... Actually, everyone has already said that and I'm just making this comment so I can worship your Father Ted icon. does so (Reply to this)(Parent)

Tee hee!

gelasius
2004-09-05 06:30 pm UTC (link)

A: I rock. This is what I'm going to do with my life!
B: That's cool and all, but tone it down a little, maybe?
A: YOU SUCK! You don't understand meee!
B: Okay, that's not what I said...
everyone else: Nooo! A, you don't listen to that meanie, we're all...
B: But I didn't...
everyone else: ... here for you and you go, girl,
B: Fine, be that way, you just don't understand meeee!
A: Thanks, you guys, you're the best.
everyone else: Yeah, that's right, bitca! *thpbpbpbt*
B: *sulks*
A: *preens*

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	Re: Tee hee! lindentree 2004-09-05 09:55 pm UTC (link)
	Icon love!!! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Tee hee! gelasius 2004-09-05 10:07 pm UTC (link)
	showers you with ~~death~~ cake You're lucky we're Church of England! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Tee hee! alden 2004-09-05 10:44 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, and you come with references! You are the darlingest thing! ~steals you~ (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Tee hee! gelasius 2004-09-06 02:48 am UTC (link)
	Eek! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: Tee hee! lindentree 2004-09-06 06:17 am UTC (link)
	EEEEE! giggles (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: Tee hee! kimberlyfdr 2004-09-18 07:29 pm UTC (link)
	Ahhh, such a summation from afar. Everyone's got opinions and Helene and I often don't agree on things. Doesn't mean anything in relation to the summation you made, but it's your right to call them as you see them. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	snacky 2004-09-05 09:21 pm UTC (link)
	So the chick can "identify Paul by his cock" and yet dreams he's her father? Yeah, there's something a little disturbing about that. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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kimberlyfdr
2004-09-18 07:31 pm UTC (link)

The cock thing you're getting second hand. It was taken out of context from another conversation and an arguement was built around it. The dream image, however, yes...there's wildly weird issues going on there. Alot of my dream images make no sense from the head-on standpoint, but after analysis they stand for something else entirely. That's the beauty of dreams, often one doesn't have a thing to do with another....just your mind's way of making sense of things.

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	kinneas 2004-09-05 09:32 pm UTC (link)
	I agreed with chick A until I realized how creepy she is. Therefore... (Reply to this)(Thread)

	alden 2004-09-05 10:45 pm UTC (link)
	Well! That's one way to make a point. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	kinneas 2004-09-05 10:47 pm UTC (link)
	Indeed! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	lindentree 2004-09-06 06:17 am UTC (link)
	tackles your icon and snuggles it (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Yay! kimberlyfdr 2004-09-18 07:32 pm UTC (link)
	I'm creepy! I should have a badge or something;) People make all kinds of assumptions about me, some good and some bad. I just find it funny most of the time. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Yay! kinneas 2004-09-19 06:51 am UTC (link)
	I wish I remembered who you are, but... judging by your icon, you are an old and done wank. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Yay! kimberlyfdr 2004-09-19 06:53 am UTC (link)
	Yeah, I'm old and done. Just popped in to see what all the fuss was about;) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Yay! kinneas 2004-09-19 06:53 am UTC (link)
	Fussing = always fun :D Starsky&Hutch = more fun (Reply to this)(Parent)

	ladyrogue 2004-09-06 06:41 am UTC (link)
	I weep for my fandom. Our wank sucks and doesn't make any sense. T_T (Reply to this)

	kraken_sleeps 2004-09-06 04:54 pm UTC (link)
	dusts off VB icon Pfft! Obsessive fan behaviour? Bitch, please. We so have you beat. (Reply to this)