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The Other Dubya ([info]misswindy) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-09-16 16:50:00


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Current mood:*thud*
Entry tags:wanking inside the house

Gay Porn. It's like the Constitution, In A Way.
A small Smallville/general slash related wank for your marshmallow roasting pleasure.

So, a couple of weeks ago, there was a big debate/wank that got posted to [info]i_wank about whether or not threesomes were genuine slash. I don't know why it didn't make it to F_W. I guess cross-pollinating between the 2 comms is seen as redundant.

Anyway, on the side of what I think is the "broad" definition of slash (slash=anything not strictly 100% het, which incidentally is what I think, too) were our very own [info]darkrose and [info]kyuuketsukirui. On the side of the "narrow" (as in "stricter") definition, e.g., slash=m/m or f/f *only* and introduction of an opposite character instantly makes it not-slash, were [info]swtalmnd, who posted this wankarrific rant about it in which she declares threesomes labeled as slash "icky". Witness thusly:

and why, god, why do people think that m/m/f is a slash story? because if a boy and a girl are having sex with each other in your story? it's het. no, really. ick ick ick.

And there's also [info]kelex, who attempted to clarify [info]swtalmnd's position, but instead just got into it with a couple of people on the thread (namely, [info]darkrose and [info]kyuuketsukirui). Then [info]swtalmnd froze all replies, which is kinda wanky in and of itself, so it didn't really get very far.

Fast forward to yesterday, which is when the stories for the Whitney Fordman ficathon in the Smallville fandom were due. [info]kelex wrote this NC-17 Lex/Whitney story. Many people chimed in to give praise and feedback, myself included.

Unfortunately, this anonymouse with a vendetta from the threesome debate 2 weeks ago shows up to say how much he or she thinks the story sucks:
Wow, for someone who doesn't like het sex in their slash stories, this has an awful lot of man-gina action. Whitney's practically a woman-- shrill screaming, sensitive nipples, and a Hoover-like anus.

It's all downhill from there, y'all.


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[info]kijikun
2004-09-17 01:36 am UTC (link)
*blinks* I missed wank on my own f-list. Oh yea, don't read smallville stuff. *wonders off*

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[info]misswindy
2004-09-17 01:40 am UTC (link)
I would've missed it too, except that the story was written for me. :P

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[info]seventy_three
2004-09-17 01:44 am UTC (link)
What, real men don't have sensitive nipples?

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[info]teratologist
2004-09-17 03:48 am UTC (link)
I wonder who is going to break the news to Dan Savage....

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(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2004-09-17 04:06 am UTC

[info]iczer6
2004-09-17 04:28 am UTC (link)
Do they?

I'm a girl and my boobs aren't nearly as sensitive as hentai and porn says they should be.

Maybe they're broken.


Icz

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(no subject) - [info]kalika_maxwell, 2004-09-17 05:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosalita, 2004-09-17 05:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-09-17 05:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosalita, 2004-09-17 06:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vasaris, 2004-09-17 09:43 am UTC
(no subject) - meshou, 2004-09-17 05:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]elfy, 2004-09-17 11:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]msmanna, 2004-09-17 12:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]starkeymonster, 2004-09-18 11:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-09-18 07:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladybirdsleeps, 2004-09-17 02:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]valarltd, 2004-09-18 06:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-09-18 07:25 pm UTC

[info]valarltd
2004-09-18 06:46 pm UTC (link)
Of course they do. Far too sensitive to be played with.
Puts them right out of the mood and more into a "Stop that and get away from me" mood. (In my experience)

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[info]seppuku
2004-09-17 02:16 am UTC (link)
a Hoover-like anus

Alright. That anonymouse has completely ruined slash for me.

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[info]munchkinott
2004-09-17 05:22 pm UTC (link)
*pets & soothes*

They really mean 'Hoover' as in 'J. Edgar'. Not 'spend four hours looking for the right nozzle before you can use it'. Though, with some slash fics - who can tell the difference?

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(no subject) - [info]kraken_sleeps, 2004-09-17 06:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]munchkinott, 2004-09-17 07:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kraken_sleeps, 2004-09-17 07:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]munchkinott, 2004-09-17 08:07 pm UTC
Icon love - (Anonymous), 2004-09-18 12:30 pm UTC

[info]xero_sky
2004-09-17 02:34 am UTC (link)
Between

suck him until he explodes like a good boy should

and

Hoover-like anus,

I really don't think I need to read any more slash, thanks. *twitches*

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[info]waysmeanstonola
2004-09-17 06:03 am UTC (link)
i think the hoover remark has put me off of reading slash ever again...

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(no subject) - [info]sewingmyfish, 2004-09-17 06:57 pm UTC

[info]adora_spintriae
2004-09-17 09:27 am UTC (link)
Maybe I'm just twisted, but those phrases make me want to read more.

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[info]necronomist
2004-09-17 02:36 am UTC (link)
I wish I could remember who invented the term, but I am fond of 'hash' as a term for m/m/f or m/f/f stories.

Then again, it is nice to know that putting in icky het sex WILL offend people. Hee.

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[info]charmian
2004-09-17 02:52 am UTC (link)
I must confess I am completely unable to understand this whole flamewar.

What is wrong with labeling a story containing both m/m and m/f both het and slash? It's like labeling something containing peanuts and um, chocolate, to warn those who are allergic: Warning, contains peanuts and choclate!

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(no subject) - [info]kyuuketsukirui, 2004-09-17 03:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]charmian, 2004-09-17 03:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2004-09-17 03:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]khym_chanur, 2004-09-17 06:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2004-09-17 06:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]beccafran, 2004-09-17 05:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]necronomist, 2004-09-17 03:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-09-17 04:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iscoffy, 2004-09-17 04:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]valarltd, 2004-09-18 06:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bitca, 2004-09-20 09:17 pm UTC

[info]msilverstar
2004-09-17 08:02 am UTC (link)
ooooh, good point! *wanders off to write more het*

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(Anonymous)
2004-09-17 03:07 am UTC (link)
Um... yeah. 'Cause darkrose and kyuuketwhatsits are both such timid, shrinking violets that they'd need to comment anonymously on whatshername's fic.

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[info]kyuuketsukirui
2004-09-17 03:13 am UTC (link)
Oh, were we accused? Perhaps I ought to read the links after all.

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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-09-17 04:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-09-17 04:17 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-09-17 04:29 am UTC

[info]sarajayechan
2004-09-17 03:14 am UTC (link)
Rabid slasher: EW GIRLZ ARE TEH ICKY, HET IS EVOL AND VAGINAS ARE DRTY!!! *castrates uke and removes all his masculinity save his penis*

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(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-09-17 04:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sarajayechan, 2004-09-17 04:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kyuuketsukirui, 2004-09-17 05:52 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-09-17 06:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kyuuketsukirui, 2004-09-17 06:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]telesilla, 2004-09-17 06:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2004-09-17 11:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkrose, 2004-09-17 06:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ipomoea, 2004-09-17 07:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]elfy, 2004-09-17 11:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eyebrowofdoom, 2004-09-17 04:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2004-09-17 06:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]big_bad_wolf, 2004-09-17 05:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]beccafran, 2004-09-17 05:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]littlest_lurker, 2004-09-17 05:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]beccafran, 2004-09-17 05:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-09-17 10:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-09-18 02:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oysteria, 2004-09-18 08:04 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-09-19 12:47 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-09-19 12:48 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-09-18 06:25 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-09-19 12:54 am UTC
(no subject) - redwarrior, 2004-09-22 09:53 pm UTC

[info]dorian
2004-09-17 03:22 am UTC (link)
a Hoover-like anus

Best. Party trick. EVER!!!

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(no subject) - [info]llama_treats, 2004-09-17 03:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]littlest_lurker, 2004-09-17 05:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2004-09-17 11:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]zorayda, 2004-09-18 02:46 am UTC

[info]khym_chanur
2004-09-17 04:32 am UTC (link)
The term "Hoover-like anus" squicks me, but in a fascinated-horror type way. It also makes me giggle.

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(Anonymous)
2004-09-17 04:54 am UTC (link)
I'm surprised by how much people seem to think they know about a former FBI director's derriere.

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(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-09-17 08:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]red_eft, 2004-09-17 08:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]munchkinott, 2004-09-17 05:24 pm UTC
Same mouse offers a deal - (Anonymous), 2004-09-17 07:18 pm UTC
Truce... accepted! - [info]munchkinott, 2004-09-18 04:18 am UTC
Re: Truce... accepted! - (Anonymous), 2004-09-18 06:33 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-09-22 11:49 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-09-17 05:02 am UTC (link)
Wow. o.o It's wank like this that A) makes me ashamed to be a slash 'shipper, B) makes me ashamed to be a het 'shipper, and C) makes me ashamed to have several OT3s. XD;

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"Hoover-like anus..."
[info]khym_chanur
2004-09-17 07:13 am UTC (link)
now with six different attachments and a lifetime warranty!

*runs*

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Re: "Hoover-like anus..." - [info]linzee, 2004-09-17 08:18 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-09-17 07:55 am UTC (link)
Leaving someone cruel feedback on a story is tasteless....

but since this is F_W, I do have to say: OMG did anyone READ that fic??

Forget the whole Cocks Only or Mixed Genitals debate... that story sucks like Whitney's apparent Hoover-anus.

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(no subject) - [info]alison, 2004-09-17 11:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-09-18 01:48 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-09-17 06:41 pm UTC (link)
forgive the anonymouse here.

so is slash about the sex or is slash about the gender of the pairings? I thought that slash in reference to TV/Books/Movies was about the sex in general, regardless of gender preferences.

yaoi (anime/manga term) was about the gender specific boy on boy sex.

*is so confused now*

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(no subject) - [info]charmian, 2004-09-17 08:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]panthea, 2004-09-17 10:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-09-18 02:47 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-09-18 06:51 am UTC (link)
In my porning experience, m/m/f invariably focuses on the gal, so yeah, I'd agree it's more het than anything.

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(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2004-09-18 07:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-09-18 09:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - redwarrior, 2004-09-22 09:54 pm UTC

 
   
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