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	muzivitch 2004-09-20 06:39 pm UTC (link)
	...Wow. I didn't realize enough people liked SEED for it to have wank. Personally, I'm all for the Lacus/Athrun/Kira threesome of joy, with Lacus as seme, of course. I'd fear for my new fandom, but it's coming from the Pit. I can avoid the Pit. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	ladyofviolets 2004-09-20 07:28 pm UTC (link)
	//Personally, I'm all for the Lacus/Athrun/Kira threesome of joy, with Lacus as seme, of course. // Great minds think alike. But let's make it a foursome by throwing Cagalli in too. :D (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	muzivitch 2004-09-20 07:43 pm UTC (link)
	But of course. And then we can have the yuri as well as the yaoi and het. Something for everyone, so to speak. This is why orgies are our friends. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	seppuku 2004-09-20 11:55 pm UTC (link)
	But let's make it a foursome by throwing Cagalli in too. Incest, yay! quietly tosses the rest of the ZAFT pilots into the pile (Reply to this)(Parent)

	blackhat 2004-09-20 11:54 pm UTC (link)
	Personally, I'm all for the Lacus/Athrun/Kira threesome of joy, with Lacus as seme, of course. Nah, Lacus would be videotaping the boys and setting herself up as the biggest distributor of gay porn in the galaxy. Between those two, and Dearka and Yzak, she'd have a goldmine. Cagalli, however, is more seme than any male in the series. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	seppuku 2004-09-20 11:56 pm UTC (link)
	Cagalli, however, is more seme than any male in the series. Sad but frighteningly true. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ladyofviolets 2004-09-21 10:04 pm UTC (link)
	You HAD to remind me of thaty Japanese fanart that had Cagalli reading the newspaper while Athrun served her the typical Japanese breakfast dressed as a housewife. ~~Bless~~Damn it. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	seppuku 2004-09-21 11:43 pm UTC (link)
	OMGWTFBBQLOL. Link, pretty please? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ladyofviolets 2004-09-21 11:50 pm UTC (link)
	I don't have the link ;_;, but I THINK I saw it first in the Gundam SEED community at LJ. You can ask there. ^^ (Reply to this)(Parent)

	muzivitch 2004-09-21 12:00 am UTC (link)
	Actually, I personally think LACUS is more seme than any guy in the series, and she needs to give Cagalli seme lessons for Athrun...but that could be me. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	kimmu 2004-09-21 09:46 pm UTC (link)
	The only man man enough for Lacus is Andy. What? I will continue to live in my delusinal fan world where they realize their true love and have scary babies who take over the universe while drinking fine coffee blends. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	muzivitch 2004-09-22 02:05 am UTC (link)
	whines But Kimmie!! The SEED mode orgy!!! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	ladyofviolets 2004-09-21 12:36 am UTC (link)
	Then Lacus would give Saori Kido/Athena of Saint Seiya a run for her money when it comes to gay porn! BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! (Reply to this)(Parent)

toxictattoo
2004-09-20 07:13 pm UTC (link)

[shakes head]

The canon/slash/het/fanrape argument is really really starting to get old.

When did writing fanfiction start to have all these rules that you can't write pairings unless they had a basis in canon, they are canon, or you have a huge ass list of justifications of why they are together? That to write in a series you had to absolutely positively remain true to the intent of the creator of the series/book/manga/movie/scribbling-on-the-back-of-a-napkin?

Unless I'm mistaking the intent of 'justifications' as meaning a checklist of proof why the author is writing them together and where their 'proof' is in the series - as opposed to being skilled in the way they write in bringing the couple together in a feasible and believable manner.

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	sarajayechan 2004-09-21 04:25 am UTC (link)
	The canon/slash/het/fanrape argument is really really starting to get old. Oh, GOD, yes. --;; (Reply to this)(Parent)

sarajayechan
2004-09-20 08:27 pm UTC (link)

Scirocco's Mini-Me 2003-09-24 1 Anonymous
*sigh*

Ok, Shiva2, let's get something straight here...

"Fanfiction" does not mean "do whatever the hell you want," which is basically what you said it means. You're forgetting the "fan" part. Is this series yours? No. Do you have the right to hack and mutilate the characters' personalities to suit your own whims? No. If this were your series, you would have that right, but this series ISN'T your property, so you might want to pay attention to what you're writing in your disclaimer. That also means that Japanese fans who draw craploads of AthrunXKira doujinshi are wrong too. These aren't your toys. You have to follow the rules the creators set—those rules being the events of the canon. Unless you want to spit all over what the creators have worked so hard to establish, in which case I can't help you there.

BZZT! No one is wrong for having an opinion and their own personal tastes. Sorry, you lose.

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	mistressrenet 2004-09-20 08:38 pm UTC (link)
	I'm wondering what s/he thinks the penalty would be for inappropriate fanfiction. Actually, I'm pretty sure I don't want to know. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

sarajayechan
2004-09-21 04:30 am UTC (link)

Rabid fanbitches who whine "OMG U BRAKED UP MY FAV PAIRING U SUCK!" seem like the kind who would crowd you and beat you up/yell stupid little insults at you if ever you ran into them in public. Elitists who bitch that fanfic is evil and everything has to have a basis in canon or it's wrong and icky are like those annoying teachers or stuck-up snobs who would lecture and scold you all day.

*random musings*

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	It's like Persona iczer6 2004-09-20 09:02 pm UTC (link)
	Do you have the right to hack and mutilate the characters' personalities to suit your own whims? So I once again missed the memo that Fanfic Changes Reality. Now to pop in my GW tapes and see if Trowa and Quatre start getting it on.... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: It's like Persona vengeance_bean 2004-09-20 09:54 pm UTC (link)
	If they do, would you let me know? I'll have a reason to dig out my coughbootleggedcough copies of the show. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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ladyofviolets
2004-09-22 03:09 pm UTC (link)

//Now to pop in my GW tapes and see if Trowa and Quatre start getting it on....//

Watch the Spanish dubs for Latin America, then. You have LA-dub!Quatre saying TWICE that he's in love with Trowa. I AM NOT KIDDING. (I know it was most likely a bad translation, but still...

You can find some info in this Spanish page: http://www.geocities.com/g_w_y_e/yaoi/3443.htm

Now, off to see if someone has the .wav files...

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	Re: It's like Persona sarajayechan 2004-09-27 11:34 pm UTC (link)
	So I once again missed the memo that Fanfic Changes Reality. Yep. :P If A and B are married/in love/have kids in the future/rule the world together in canon, then it'll always be canon even if A has an affair with C in a fanfic. "Oh, Usagi had an affair with Rei! That means Mamoru and Usagi broke up and ChibiUsa will never be born! Oh noes!" (Reply to this)(Parent)

	mistressrenet 2004-09-20 08:31 pm UTC (link)
	And what have we learned? a) People are Gay or Straight and can never be interested in or involved with two people at once b) Fan fiction should be about canon (which makes me wonder why people bother writing fan fiction at all, I mean do we have any proof Athrun likes vanilla ice cream?) c) Morons will wank about anything. Okay, we already knew that last one. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	seppuku 2004-09-20 11:58 pm UTC (link)
	I mean do we have any proof Athrun likes vanilla ice cream? 1. I like vanilla ice cream. 2. I think Athrun is pretty. 3. Therefore, ~~God exists~~ Athrun likes vanilla ice cream. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sarajayechan 2004-09-21 04:26 am UTC (link)
	Oh, you used my icon! feels loved (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mistressrenet 2004-09-21 04:46 am UTC (link)
	I knew I'd need it soon! loves icon (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2004-09-21 01:18 am UTC (link)
	And this is why I avoid the Gundam SEED fandom like the plague. Not because of any wank, but because I loathe the 'official' spellings of the names so much I can't bear to read stuff with them in. WHAT THE FUCK JAPAN (Reply to this)(Thread)

	muzivitch 2004-09-21 04:49 am UTC (link)
	Seriously. I keep having to stop myself from spelling Cagalli Kagari and Lacus Lux. Not to mention Yzak and Isaac. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ladyofviolets 2004-09-22 02:05 am UTC (link)
	And Murrue = Maryu, Fllaga = Fraga, Nataru = Natarle, Tolle = tohru, Ssigh = Sai.... * gets dizzy and collapses * (Reply to this)(Parent)

	shun_mcdaddy 2004-09-21 03:41 pm UTC (link)
	Gundam fanpairing battle 2:After armaggedden! The sequel to "Gundam fanpairing Battle 1995:Do you remember love?" (Reply to this)(Thread)

	sarajayechan 2004-09-22 12:26 am UTC (link)
	XD (Reply to this)(Parent)

	kimmu 2004-09-21 09:44 pm UTC (link)
	Of course, my reaction to this is "Ok, you canon h0rs, you have watched the series right? And you still think Kira is straight?" Cause you know.....damn coughs I suppose I should be happy that Nicol was spared the fate that Quatre suffered, what with the Seed fandom being so small. Though...I haven't really looked at the Pit, I could be wrong. (Reply to this)(Thread)

ladyofviolets
2004-09-21 10:12 pm UTC (link)

//Of course, my reaction to this is "Ok, you canon h0rs, you have watched the series right? And you still think Kira is straight?"//

Kira's bisexuality is pazted on YAY!!!!!

//I suppose I should be happy that Nicol was spared the fate that Quatre suffered, what with the Seed fandom being so small. Though...I haven't really looked at the Pit, I could be wrong.//

Have seen 2/3 fanworks that made him the Quatre of the series, but ~~still~~ not as BAD as it could have been. Then again, it's fandom we're talking about.

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	seppuku 2004-09-21 11:46 pm UTC (link)
	giggles at your icon I suppose I should be happy that Nicol was spared the fate that Quatre suffered, what with the Seed fandom being so small. Though...I haven't really looked at the Pit, I could be wrong. I've just avoided the SEED fandom. The first fic I read had foot-fetish!Athrun, and... well, yeah, I guess that turned me off SEED fic. (Reply to this)(Parent)