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Adastra ([info]fictionbya) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-09-20 18:24:00


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Current mood:Fantastico
Entry tags:creator wank, interrogating from the wrong perspective, meme origins, person: anne rice

To quote rhiannonhero from LJ: "Anne Rice wouldn't last a day in fandom, yo."
Apparently Anne Rice is upset about some of the reviewers at amazon.com for they have strained her Dickensean principles to the max!

(Scroll about halfway down. You are looking for reviewer "Anne Obrien Rice" and a paragraph that never ends.)

ETA: You will now have to click on "Next" under the customer reviews to locate the "Anne Obrien Rice" review. Just click and scroll down. It's hard to miss.

Also, iconage has happened at [info]fwank_icons.


Son of ETA: Amazon.com seems to have deleted the Anne Obrien Rice review (and the crop of reviews that came after it). Fortunately, some things which are posted on the internet have a way of being preserved forever.

From the Author to the Some of the Negative Voices Here, September 6, 2004
Seldom do I really answer those who criticize my work. In fact, the entire development of my career has been fueled by my ability to ignore denigrating and trivializing criticism as I realize my dreams and my goals. However there is something compelling about Amazon's willingness to publish just about anything, and the sheer outrageous stupidity of many things you've said here that actually touches my proletarian and Democratic soul. Also I use and enjoy Amazon and I do read the reviews of other people's books in many fields. In sum, I believe in what happens here. And so, I speak. First off, let me say that this is addressed only to some of you, who have posted outrageously negative comments here, and not to all. You are interrogating this text from the wrong perspective. Indeed, you aren't even reading it. You are projecting your own limitations on it. And you are giving a whole new meaning to the words "wide readership." And you have strained my Dickensean principles to the max. I'm justifiably proud of being read by intellectual giants and waitresses in trailer parks,in fact, I love it, but who in the world are you? Now to the book. Allow me to point out: nowhere in this text are you told that this is the last of the chronicles, nowhere are you promised curtain calls or a finale, nowhere are you told there will be a wrap-up of all the earlier material. The text tells you exactly what to expect. And it warns you specifically that if you did not enjoy Memnoch the Devil, you may not enjoy this book. This book is by and about a hero whom many of you have already rejected. And he tells you that you are likely to reject him again. And this book is most certainly written -- every word of it -- by me. If and when I can't write a book on my own, you'll know about it. And no, I have no intention of allowing any editor ever to distort, cut, or otherwise mutilate sentences that I have edited and re-edited, and organized and polished myself. I fought a great battle to achieve a status where I did not have to put up with editors making demands on me, and I will never relinquish that status. For me, novel writing is a virtuoso performance. It is not a collaborative art. Back to the novel itself: the character who tells the tale is my Lestat. I was with him more closely than I have ever been in this novel; his voice was as powerful for me as I've ever heard it. I experienced break through after break through as I walked with him, moved with him, saw through his eyes. What I ask of Lestat, Lestat unfailingly gives. For me, three hunting scenes, two which take place in hotels -- the lone woman waiting for the hit man, the slaughter at the pimp's party -- and the late night foray into the slums --stand with any similar scenes in all of the chronicles. They can be read aloud without a single hitch. Every word is in perfect place. The short chapter in which Lestat describes his love for Rowan Mayfair was for me a totally realized poem. There are other such scenes in this book. You don't get all this? Fine. But I experienced an intimacy with the character in those scenes that shattered all prior restraints, and when one is writing one does have to continuously and courageously fight a destructive tendency to inhibition and restraint. Getting really close to the subject matter is the achievement of only great art. Now, if it doesn't appeal to you, fine. You don't enjoy it? Read somebody else. But your stupid arrogant assumptions about me and what I am doing are slander. And you have used this site as if it were a public urinal to publish falsehood and lies. I'll never challenge your democratic freedom to do so, and yes, I'm answering you, but for what it's worth, be assured of the utter contempt I feel for you, especially those of you who post anonymously (and perhaps repeatedly?) and how glad I am that this book is the last one in a series that has invited your hateful and ugly responses. Now, to return to the narrative in question: Lestat's wanting to be a saint is a vision larded through and through with his characteristic vanity. It connects perfectly with his earlier ambitions to be an actor in Paris, a rock star in the modern age. If you can't see that, you aren't reading my work. In his conversation with the Pope he makes observations on the times which are in continuity with his observations on the late twentieth century in The Vampire Lestat, and in continuity with Marius' observations in that book and later in Queen of the Damned. The state of the world has always been an important theme in the chronicles. Lestat's comments matter. Every word he speaks is part of the achievement of this book. That Lestat renounced this saintly ambition within a matter of pages is plain enough for you to see. That he reverts to his old self is obvious, and that he intends to complete the tale of Blackwood Farm is also quite clear. There are many other themes and patterns in this work that I might mention -- the interplay between St.Juan Diago and Lestat, the invisible creature who doesn't "exist" in the eyes of the world is a case in point. There is also the theme of the snare of Blackwood Farm, the place where a human existence becomes so beguiling that Lestat relinquishes his power as if to a spell. The entire relationship between Lestat and Uncle Julien is carefully worked out. But I leave it to readers to discover how this complex and intricate novel establishes itself within a unique, if not unrivalled series of book. There are things to be said. And there is pleasure to be had. And readers will say wonderful things about Blood Canticle and they already are. There are readers out there and plenty of them who cherish the individuality of each of the chronicles which you so flippantly condemn. They can and do talk circles around you. And I am warmed by their response. Their letters, the papers they write in school, our face to face exchanges on the road -- these things sustain me when I read the utter trash that you post. But I feel I have said enough. If this reaches one reader who is curious about my work and shocked by the ugly reviews here, I've served my goals. And Yo, you dude, the slang police! Lestat talks like I do. He always has and he always will. You really wouldn't much like being around either one of us. And you don't have to be. If any of you want to say anything about all this by all means Email me at Anneobrienrice@mac.com. And if you want your money back for the book, send it to 1239 First Street, New Orleans, La, 70130. I'm not a coward about my real name or where I live. And yes, the Chronicles are no more! Thank God!



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(Anonymous)
2004-09-21 11:07 am UTC (link)
Someone so needs to edit her post, correct all the errors and post it there. I think her head would explode. Do it myself if I thought I'd make a good job of it.

Or has it been done already?

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[info]winterfalls
2004-09-21 11:15 am UTC (link)
Seconded!

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[info]xero_sky
2004-09-21 11:19 am UTC (link)
I dunno. I kind of think that so much concentrated wank might be too toxic to handle. Obviously she's built up an immunity, but someone else might die of spooge poisoning.

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(Anonymous)
2004-09-21 12:40 pm UTC (link)
This 'someone else' you speak of... are they important?

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[info]fishandbicycle
2004-09-21 11:22 am UTC (link)
Thirded! That'd be great.

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(Anonymous)
2004-09-21 11:31 am UTC (link)
OMGDORYICONLOVE!!!! ^_^ <33333333 :DDDDDD

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Oh how I tried!
[info]tekenduis
2004-09-21 04:29 pm UTC (link)
I did. I tried to fix it, but my eyes crossed and then glazed over.

I have not the strength of stomach will to do this thing.

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How's this?
[info]herongale
2004-09-21 04:34 pm UTC (link)
Rarely do I respond to critics. My entire career, I have avoided denigrating and trivial criticism, and I do not allow it to interfere with my dreams and goals. However, because I strongly believe in the democratic forum Amazon.com has set up, and because I feel that people have taken advantage of this freedom to publish inaccurate and unkind attacks masquerading as reviews, I have decided to make an exception. And so, I speak.

Let me first state that my displeasure rests only with those people to whom the above statement applies. Many readers cherish the full set of chronicles which I have written, and their praise and respect warms me. I am sustained by the support of my fans, who speak to me in letters, online, or face-to-face while I am on tour. To my true fans, I thank you for the support you have given Blood Canticle. If this reaches even one reader who is curious about my work and shocked by the ugly reviews here, I've served my goals.

In this forum I have found comments of outrageous negativity. Be assured of the utter contempt I feel for those who would shred my prose and then wonder if I even wrote it. You have the right to say what you wish, but your arrogant assumptions run close to libel and do not be surprised if I turn the tables. Who the hell are you? I do not care if you are styled an intellectual genius and renowned worldwide, nor do I care if you come from the most wretched side of the tracks... in fact I am proud of having a broad and diverse readership. This appeals to my Dickensian principles. However, in treating this forum as a public urinal for the publication of outright falsehoods, I have to say that I do not care who you are, or where you come from. I despise you.

I wonder if some of you even read the book. From the beginning you are warned that if you did not like Memnoch the Devil, you might not like Blood Canticle. From the beginning it is clear that Lestat is both the focus of the book, and its narrator. Those who have rejected him in the past should know you would reject him again… so why bother? You who have read my books before and who have learned to find contempt for them, why are you still reading?

One of the most contemptible allegations I’ve come across is that Blood Canticle was not written by me. This is categorically untrue. I have fought, and fought hard, to achieve the privilege of writing without censor. Why would I give that up to allow some ghostwriter to hack at my precious creations? I am proud of every sentence I craft, and I will never relinquish this right.

At its best, writing is a virtuoso performance. Great art can only be achieved by finding a singular voice and pursuing it without restraint. It is my hope that I have done that, and it is my belief that Lestat and I speak as one.

Now to the book. Never have I felt more in tune with my character, Lestat. I moved with him. I walked with him. I saw through his eyes. When he is on the hunt, whether in expensive hotels or in the slums, he speaks with a voice that carries and which has been consistent since the days of Interview With a Vampire. I feel that Blood Canticle is a unique achievement, with every word in perfect place and every scene coming off without a hitch. The short chapter in which Lestat describes his love for Rowan Mayfair was for me a totally realized poem. I am proud of this work, and feel it stands strong along with everything else I have ever written.

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[info]herongale
2004-09-21 04:36 pm UTC (link)
Some have criticized Lestat’s ambition to become a saint, not seeing that it reflects his characteristic vanity. This was no different then his earlier ambitions to be an actor in Paris, or a rock star in the modern age. Lestat’s conversation with the pope merely expands upon themes found in The Vampire Lestat and Queen of the Damned. Lestat’s ambition evolved even as he spoke, and his renunciation of his saintly ambitions was a natural result of self-revelation.

The most silly criticism is that of how Lestat speaks. Yo, dude, this is nothing new. Get over it.

Anyone who really is disappointed in Blood Canticle is invited to send it back to me. I will refund your money, and consider it a small price to pay to recover my books from the hands of hateful people who are not worthy to read them anyway. My address is (xxx). Send them to me, and it will be as if the Chronicles never existed in your life… something we can all agree to be grateful for.

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This is a pretty severe edit. I cut up her prose into paragraphs, rearranged ideas for logic, and rewrote a lot of it. Is this kind of what you were thinking?






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[info]deoridhe
2004-09-21 05:16 pm UTC (link)
...

We're not worthy. We're not worthy.

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[info]herongale
2004-09-22 01:20 am UTC (link)
The sad part is that if I sent this to her, probability is very low that she's find any value in the experience of seeing her work edited. Her persecutory complex would likely translate reading my efforts into a conviction that I've "raped" her literary talent.

*whistles* Oh well! It was fun. :)

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[info]littlebitca
2004-09-22 07:02 am UTC (link)
What brand of word polish did you use?

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(Anonymous)
2004-09-21 06:58 pm UTC (link)
Way to go. ^_^

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(Anonymous)
2004-09-21 10:14 pm UTC (link)
Thumbs up. Actual comprehensibility out of drek. See, Anne? THIS is why you could use an editor or a team!

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(Anonymous)
2004-09-21 10:59 pm UTC (link)
Oh, thank you, yes. Sporfle!

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[info]slackerbitch
2004-09-21 11:32 pm UTC (link)
Wow. Like that, I can actually understand what she's saying. It all makes sense and flows.

*english major fangirl moment*

You are incredible. Do you edit for a living? Because if not, you should.

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[info]herongale
2004-09-22 01:14 am UTC (link)
I edit [info]anax's fanfics for free as a beta. But other then that, no, I do not edit professionally. Trust me when I say I am very well situated with my current job. :)

In any case, thanks for the complement. Made me all warm and fuzzy inside!

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[info]majinkarp
2004-09-22 03:00 am UTC (link)
Hey, my eyes don't hurt anymore when I try to read it! Thanks!

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