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Old Coyote ([info]ueuecoyotl) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-09-21 04:34:00


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Current mood:Hawkish
Current music:The Producers - Springtime for Hitler

Return of the Digimon crazies
Digimon fandom has a lot of crazies. There's the people who insist that Yamato and Taichi really were a couple in the Japanese original but any innuendo had been taken out by Teh Ebil Dubbers, or that Hikari and Takeru really were meant to be and episode 50 was a LIE! There's the people who insist on passing off false information as genuine, like the moron who said that Noganism IS real and if you don't believe him you're close-minded! Nevermind all the facts that disprove these things.

And now, we have a Real Live Producer. Really. One that speaks English and typos as bad as most of the rest of the fandom in the heat of an argument. Nevermind the fact that Digimon is planned, animated, voiced, and aired in Japan with a Japanese audience in mind.


ProdN10:
I am here to inform all of you that there will indeed be a season five. How do I know this? Well, the answer is simple: I am one of the producers who have stuck around since Digimon Adventure 02. If that doesn't make you wonder than I don't know what will. In fact I even have a little insider info that deals with 05 and the past seasons of Digimon. Ok, pull up a chair, because this will take a while.

Makes me wonder why someone would bother to lie this much, sure.


Various sheep come up to graze at his feet in the typical brainless Digimon fan fashion until Demonslayer starts doing the wise thing and asks questions. Just a request for proof, really. Naturally, instead of giving actual proof, the InsiderMysteriously English-Speaking Producer pulls random shit out of his ass that includes crystal balls nebulous things like "be patient" and "They are keeping us producers a little in the dark on what they are planning which can tend to be irritating, but we patiently deal with it." My Tarot deck would give more definitive answers.

Demonslayer is much enjoying his questioning, like so:
Demonslayer:
"Now that I think about it.....You still haven't told us why you picked this board with a small digimon forum to post your information I doubt even 50 people will read it here which brings suspicion to my mind......and also.......how did you find this board at all? It's pretty hard to find and search for so how'd you get it?"

Thread eventually devolves into ProdN10 coming across as a chronic liar (whose canon "facts" are so off that they wouldn't stand up to a slight breeze) and Demonslayer trying to live up to the Detective Conan icon in his profile.

ProdN10 attempts to answer 5 questions from Demonslayer:
1. Are you really who you claim to be?
A: Yes, I am otherwise, where is this info coming from. It sure isn't thin air that is for certain.

2. Is there even a season 5?
A: Yes, the 05 season is coming, but the production schedule is taking time to get totally underway.

3. How reliable are your sources?
A: The info is very reliable considering the total number of people who tell me things from time to time. The number is somewhere around 10-15 people who work in different position at either Bandai or Toei. Can't get anymore official than that unless I get in touch with the creator of Digimon. Maybe one of my co-workers has his phone number. I'll have to check. No, I am not be silly. I am dead serious.

4. If you are who you claim to be.....is season 5 really a possibility
A: The 05 season is definitely a possibility, but certain factors such as Disney, the cgi movie and finalizing of the 05 story has to get taken care of first. Bandai is determine to get 05 on the air next year sometime. But, yes, it's definitely coming.


Right. Nevermind that the 02 in Digimon Adventure 02 refers to the year 2002 and NOT the season number. There never was a season "03" or "04", they're called Digimon Tamers and Digimon Frontier. And why on earth would an American company have any say over the property of two Japanese companies?

It just gets worse around page 3 as the sheep start defending ProdN10 and he and Demonslayer start flinging insults at each other. ProdN10 ends up making excuses for his insults and then says that "As of now, I think that I may be one of the only producers posting anywhere outside the private company boards." And then he goes and acts condescendingly to Demonslayer on basis of age.

And then it gets even better! Poor Nathan (ProdN10) is so stressed out that he just HAS to go to Hawaii for a few weeks and sent his friend Mark (now posting under his account) to do his work (re: make shit up on a small digimon board) while he's gone. Curiously, "Mark" makes the same fallacies that "Nathan" does, has the same posting style, and claims that there's an in-limbo season called "Digimon Adventure 00: Origins." Nevermind the inherent wrongness of the title itself.

"Mark" whines about how cruel fans are and oh why won't anyone believe the producers? My heart would go out to them if I had one. Then, Cyberdramon comes up to pick up the attack where Demonslayer left off, drilling ProdN10 with more questions that receive answers that are either outright incorrect or so nebulous that Professor Trelawney would be more definite. Eventually the questions get so demanding and detailed that ProdN10 ends up pulling crap out of his ass completely, which leads to him being soundly beaten down by Cyberdramon's facts. And then ProdN10 is trouced by even more people who are obsessive enough to be able to counter his arguments.

Fortunately, not everyone believes this crap.

It's not a particularly funny wank and I wouldn't force anyone not in the fandom to read it all, but I figured it deserved a place here, if just for the "how the fuck can people believe this" factor.



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(Anonymous)
2004-09-21 12:56 pm UTC (link)
More like wanktastically sad. :*( Especially to someone who's a Digimon fan; think I saw that mentioned at WtW forums, was wondering what that was all about.

- Famira Damaris

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[info]herongale
2004-09-21 03:14 pm UTC (link)
Digimon. *dies in love and wank*

I very much thank you for sharing this. I doubt it's going to get a lot of play in the wake of the Harry Potter political wank and the Anne Rice meltdown, but you've made me one happy fan just to see that people still talk about Digimon at all (even if they are totally deluded and/or manipulative fen). *kisses* Wunderbar.

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[info]jrandomlurker
2004-09-22 01:15 am UTC (link)
This is kinda sorta off topic, but... may I fangirl squee in your direction, Herongale? :)

Your 02 fics were one of the major things that got me into slash, apart from the actual series content itself. Mmmmmm... delicious Kensuke.

Just wanted to let you know your writing was -and is- appreciated. Do you still do 02 stuff these days?

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[info]herongale
2004-09-22 01:27 am UTC (link)
I'm working on my medical residency right now, so there's little time for writing fanfic, I'm afraid. But I do still love Kensuke terribly and am always glad to know that people think of my stories fondly. *snugs* Thanks bunches.

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[info]crysiana
2004-09-21 03:41 pm UTC (link)
It occurs to me that I should really rewrite/work on/do something with the tripe that was Mahou no Bishounen Yamato at some point. Because really, it was the only solution for people who wanted to see a horrible, uncannon, nonsensical, badly-written Magical Girl parody. (Never again will I work with a series that requires eight main characters.)

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[info]ahiru
2004-09-21 04:42 pm UTC (link)
Aw, a Digimon wank. It does the heart good to see the old fandom is as wanky as ever. *Pets the cute li'l wank*

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[info]hypno_jango
2004-09-21 04:49 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for posting this. Just the other day my Pokemon friend and I were discussing stuff like this. As I was talking about how some people in the ONE PIECE fandom are urging everyone to write to 4Kids and tell them how to do their job and that ONE PIECE is TOTALLY NOT A KIDS SHOW OMG IT BELONGS ON ADULT SWIM, she was telling me that she had to deal with crazies who insisted Pokemon's episodes are an hour long and 4Kids cuts them into 20 minutes episodes because THEY ARE TEH EVAL.

Step Away! Step away from the crazies, Ussop!

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[info]phosfate
2004-09-21 05:02 pm UTC (link)
ONE PIECE is TOTALLY NOT A KIDS SHOW OMG IT BELONGS ON ADULT SWIM

Oh, Lord. *headdesk*

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[info]hypno_jango
2004-09-21 05:07 pm UTC (link)
For some reason if a show is aimed at kids it can't be enjoyed by all ages. Fandom: No Earth Logic Required.

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[info]sarajayechan
2004-09-22 02:48 am UTC (link)
I know. Cause God Forbid anyone over 13 enjoy something without piles of blood and angst and boobs.

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[info]blackjackrocket
2004-09-22 10:22 am UTC (link)
Well, it has angst and boobs anyway.

And hey, they left Mewtwo Returns uncut, and that was dark as hell. (not to mention the gratutious overtones between Giovanni and Domino, but let's set that aside for now) Making it even darker was putting the "Birth of Mewtwo" clip on the same DVD--talk about nilhism!

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[info]soraphilia
2004-09-21 07:03 pm UTC (link)
But it's true!! And Pokemon is also not a kid's show because in the original James wore fake boobies in one episode so it must be FOR ADULTS ONLY!!! In fact, no anime is a kid's show because Japanese stuff is all too DEEP to have possibly been made for kids!

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[info]ahiru
2004-09-21 09:12 pm UTC (link)
That's right! In fact, originally Hamtaro could only be watched by people over 60 with hardy constitutions because it was JUST THAT HARDCORE. Then teh eval American companies got it and KILLED it!!1!11!

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[info]sarajayechan
2004-09-22 02:47 am UTC (link)
*snickers at the idea of Hamtaro being considered deep and hardcore*

I've seen a few eps. It makes DIGI CHARAT look deep and hardcore. XD

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[info]ondorikun
2004-09-22 10:54 am UTC (link)
I've seen a few eps. It makes DIGI CHARAT look deep and hardcore. XD

That Hell Store was pretty heavy... X3

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[info]hypno_jango
2004-09-22 08:17 am UTC (link)
Yeah! 4Kids obviously don't know how to run a business like we do! So let's all help them by writing emails and prove to them that they are stupid! http://66.90.103.231/index.php?showtopic=444

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[info]blackjackrocket
2004-09-22 10:24 am UTC (link)
Isn't 4Kids getting approval from the original producers for every episode? Like, every change has to be approved?

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[info]hypno_jango
2004-09-22 05:37 pm UTC (link)
Yes, that is correct. But as you can see, the elistist don't care. I pointed it out on another thread, but I gave up because they don't look like they are going to stop whining at every minor thing. "Oh noes! Zoro's name was changed to the TOTALLY DIFFERENT name of Zolo! The horror! Even though 4Kids kept everyone else's names, we know they did it to PISS US OFF! It couldn't be legal reasons or trying not to have him confused as being the other Zorro, ya know!"

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[info]sarajayechan
2004-09-22 02:41 am UTC (link)
some people in the ONE PIECE fandom are urging everyone to write to 4Kids and tell them how to do their job

...When will people like this get over it and accept that the fandom doesn't just belong to THEM?

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[info]hypno_jango
2004-09-22 04:44 am UTC (link)
:peeks in at OP fandom: Not any time soon. For now if you don't bitch about 4Kids, OMG YUR NOT A TRU FAN!!!

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[info]soraphilia
2004-09-21 06:54 pm UTC (link)
Digimon wank! This brings back so many happy memories from my early fandom days. Wank on, Digimon fans, for my nostalgia. *wipes away a tear*

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[info]iris
2004-09-21 07:58 pm UTC (link)
Your icon makes me ridiculously happy. *snuggles Black Hayate*

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[info]seppuku
2004-09-21 11:42 pm UTC (link)
I second the icon-giggliness.

*fangirls*

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[info]sarajayechan
2004-09-22 02:43 am UTC (link)
XD Poor kittens!

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[info]beccastareyes
2004-09-21 07:40 pm UTC (link)
Icon love!

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[info]herring
2004-09-21 10:31 pm UTC (link)
Oh, Digimon. I love you. Three years after the fact, Digimon 02's Episode 50 still causes wank. Those writers probably knew what they were doing.

<3 <3 <3 <3

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[info]miome
2004-09-21 11:58 pm UTC (link)
Did they? I was under the impression they just swept up whatever powder was left on the laundry room floor and snorted it up.

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[info]herring
2004-09-22 02:07 am UTC (link)
Of course there were drugs! But before that, the writers must have had some dream of causing their fans great amounts of pain. (Or, at least, the new management did.)

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[info]ondorikun
2004-09-22 02:53 am UTC (link)
Wow, Your icon caused an extremely psychotic sounding giggle fit. Be proud of yourself, for serious. Much icon <3 here. XD

Of course, now I feel guilty for laughing at Osamu's misfortunes, but...

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[info]herring
2004-09-22 09:26 am UTC (link)
Hahaha, thank you!

Please enjoy Ken's misfortunes as well.

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[info]blackjackrocket
2004-09-22 10:19 am UTC (link)
Hast thou one of Oikawa's misfortunes? My icon is lonely.

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[info]ondorikun
2004-09-22 10:47 am UTC (link)
[Promptly dies from laughter again.]

[/easily amused]

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[info]riah_chan
2004-09-22 04:26 am UTC (link)
Your icon brings me joy... just wanted to tell you.

Riah-chan

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[info]blackjackrocket
2004-09-22 10:24 am UTC (link)
Knew what they were doing? I thought they just snorted coke until they saw rainbow butterflies, and everything went from there.

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[info]kyuuketsukirui
2004-09-22 12:17 am UTC (link)
Oh Digimon, my baby. All grown up and still wanky as hell.

*looks upon it fondly with tears in her eyes*

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[info]riah_chan
2004-09-22 04:27 am UTC (link)
Sooooo ditto.

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[info]shinigami_co
2004-09-22 12:25 am UTC (link)
For a moment, I'd like to play devil's advocate here. *puts on her "don't kill me yet" hat* There are American producers for Japanese anime. Matt Greenfield is listed as Executive Producer or something on practically everything ADV releases. It's not too terribly inconceivable that an American producer would know about an upcoming Japanese show if the company he works for has a standing license for the show. AND, I believe they did call 02 "season 2", Tamers "season 3", and Frontier "season 4" in the American release.

NOW then, back to making this guy be the idiot he is...NO. If Fox or Bandai or whoever hasn't made an official announcement about a new season of Digimon, the fact that this guy - if he's not a liar - is traipsing about the internet posting about it means VERY BAD THINGS. From him losing his job to possibly Disney or Fox or whoever breaking contract and losing the license.

...y'know, come to think of it, I hope he IS the real deal, so Disney might lose the license. And we can get someone decent to bring it over.

Besides, I think Anime News Network or Anime-on-DVD would have gotten at least SOME word of it, were it true.

*sobs* I just want it to go back to the way it was in 01/02...no more "we are teh digimonzzzzz!!!!" crap... T-T

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[info]herring
2004-09-22 09:28 am UTC (link)
As far as I know, Toei has said there will be no Season 5 anime at all. If anything, they might make a sequel to the V-Tamers manga that some people on the internet have dubbed as "05." Even that is iffy, though.

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(Anonymous)
2004-09-22 03:01 pm UTC (link)
"As far as I know, Toei has said there will be no Season 5 anime at all. If anything, they might make a sequel to the V-Tamers manga that some people on the internet have dubbed as "05." Even that is iffy, though."

No, they have not said anything of the kind, and the mangaka of V-Tamer said that he didn't want it to become an anime and it never would in a V-Jump interview.

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(Anonymous)
2004-10-08 01:01 am UTC (link)
They were originally signed up to make a couple more seasons after Frontier but these were cancelled due to low ratings etc.

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[info]vengeance_bean
2004-09-22 12:55 am UTC (link)
So much icon love. So much.

God, I can't believe I'm still in this fandom... ^^;; At least I barely talk to anyone else still here with me.

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[info]mydruthers
2004-09-22 01:33 am UTC (link)
Yay for Digimon!

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[info]sarajayechan
2004-09-22 02:38 am UTC (link)
Somehow I'm reminded of the "omg SailorStars is being dubbed" stuff from awhile back.

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[info]blackjackrocket
2004-09-22 10:20 am UTC (link)
Nevermind that the 02 in Digimon Adventure 02 refers to the year 2002 and NOT the season number.

I've never heard that it denoted 2002, just that it denoted the second part of Adventure. And I *have* heard Japanese fans refer to "Adventure 01", which did NOT take place in 2001, so...

...oddly, I also see some Japanese sites refer to "03" and "04" as well as "Tamers" and "Frontier".

...and now I think I need a JP icon.

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