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	(Anonymous) 2004-09-25 05:44 pm UTC (link)
	Hey, your icon amuses me greatly! - (http://www.livejournal.com/users/phoenix_fw/info/)phoenix (http://www.livejournal.com/users/phoenix_fw/) (Reply to this)

	lurker32 2004-09-25 06:09 pm UTC (link)
	Honestly, I couldn't get through the last two pages And look what you missed! Everybody did it! Unforgivable! I shall make a Comic of Protest! Ooh, look, a sense of humor. Oh yeah? Well, I'M COOLER THAN YOU! I have no idea what half of them are talking about and it's still hilarious. (Reply to this)

	kijikun 2004-09-25 08:04 pm UTC (link)
	I see nerf is used in more things than for SWG. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	greenling 2004-09-25 10:06 pm UTC (link)
	It's pretty much universal. I first saw it used on Diablo II forums. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	xero_sky 2004-09-25 11:19 pm UTC (link)
	Ok, i didnt get exactly about the stone fist thing. Only the Cail Stone fist is gonna ebd up... and then only the pure wars are not gonna be able to warm? Or that is for CLaw fist too? I... O_o I got nothing. What language is that? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	starza 2004-09-25 11:41 pm UTC (link)
	I have no flipping clue, actually. @_@;; It's the special 'PDA' lingo. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	shiori 2004-09-26 05:44 pm UTC (link)
	I actually played this game some time ago and I still don't know. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	rinoared 2004-09-25 11:20 pm UTC (link)
	That reminds me of my little brother. He's the type that always plays with a strategy guide and searching cheats online. And I'm wondering, what's the point of playing at all if there's no challenge? Today's youth, I tell ya. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	iczer6 2004-09-25 11:42 pm UTC (link)
	What's the point in playing if you can't actually get anywhere or do anything in the game? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	rinoared 2004-09-25 11:50 pm UTC (link)
	I'll get back to you on that when I'm actually in that situation. It's not like I'd never used a guide to get all the superduper secret thingies, but actually making progress? Never been that hard. Or would you prefer me to trot out a l33t smugly superior gamer grrl card and start stroking it? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	mael 2004-09-26 12:57 am UTC (link)
	w00t! Catfight! *sits back and grabs some nachos* (Reply to this)(Parent)

starza 2004-09-26 02:39 am UTC (link)

Guides are good if you're totally stuck and can't do anything. But you shouldn't rely on them 100% of the time. I'm using some guides when I'm playing Star Ocean 3 now (Lord knows I can't be bothered to play around with the item creation system for 300+ hours), but I don't rely on guides for my whole play. Why play a game when you're just going to look everything up and basically have someone else do 90% of the work for you? If I have to constantly look stuff up for a game, well, it must not be a very fun game. :P This goes for Gameshark plays too. It sort of defeats the purpose of a game if there's no challenge to it, in my opinion. Online games are a little different, but still, if you have to rely 90% on a guide, maybe it's time to move onto another game. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

greenling 2004-09-26 03:04 am UTC (link)

Depends on what parts of the game the guide's about. If it's, say, a guide for an RPG telling you what all the weapons do or at what level the characters gain new skills, that's different than a guide that tells you how to get through the block puzzle in the third dungeon, isn't it? You don't have to be stuck to use a guide. You could just be relying on the nice internet people who have way too much free time and have figured out exactly what algebraic equation figures out whether your Pokemon will have good or bad stats. :3 (Reply to this)(Parent)

msmanna 2004-09-26 03:28 am UTC (link)

Why play a game when you're just going to look everything up and basically have someone else do 90% of the work for you? Taking a wild guess here, maybe because people who do that personally find it more fun to play that way? You know, the same way some people love spoilers for TV series, and some people say what's the point of watching the show if you know what's going to happen? Personal taste. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	rinoared 2004-09-26 08:53 am UTC (link)
	Or let's say, relying on cheats and guided 100% of the time. Yeah, personal preference and all manna said, it's just not my preference. I prefer the feeling of accomplishment when a tough puzzle is done or I beat up a hard boss monster with all my party alive. But, you know, after I've completed a game once, I can play it again for fun with every cheat I can find. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	lori 2004-09-26 01:02 am UTC (link)
	Always amazes me when people exploit a glitch and then cry nerf when it's fixed. (Reply to this)

	eclair 2004-09-26 01:04 am UTC (link)
	Your icon gives my icon much love. As for the wank, uhm. Talk about taking advantage of a situation. -Yikes-. (Reply to this)