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Alison ([info]alison) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-10-04 21:43:00


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Current mood:Catty
Current music:sex pistols

Attack of the killer sockpuppet author
The infamous Jeylan is back in Highlander fandom and pissing everyone off (well, almost everyone) with her latest escapade.

Her most recent venture was to post a new story under a new pen name (Lilith) to a couple of Highlander fiction lists. The story, "A Kiss Is Still A Kiss" was well received by most fans and gets positive feedback, including a rec from a really Big Name Fan.

However behind the scenes it seems a few Jeylan-haters, who are holding a grudge from their last run-in with her, had decided that Lilith's e-mail address was too similar to Jeylan's and the IP numbers too close for comfort so they we sure Jeylan and Lilith were one in the same! They decided to bait Lilith on the Duncan_Methos list to try and expose the truth.

Shock and horror! A sock was amongst them! However, Lilith did not take the bait. Very un-Jeylan like behavior. They are puzzled.

Fast-forward to today, Lilith posts a "thank you" note to the ROG-L list to thank everyone for all their wonderful feedback and drops this bombshell:



"My sincere thanks to everyone who wrote, onlist and off, to tell me how much they liked my DM/M story -- "A Kiss is Still a Kiss." I loved writing this story, and I'm very happy to hear how much others enjoyed reading it.

Many people have asked where to find my other fic, but, alas, "Kiss" is my first, and will be my only, HL story. As much as I appreciate the sentiments of all the kind people who have written asking for more, HL fandom, as I think we all realize, is a small pond with several very fucked up fish in it. Those few ruin it for the rest of us.

Methos and Duncan BOTH deserve better than they're getting, in this fandom.

(Hint: Some of these people are so out of touch with reality that they actually mistook "Kiss" for "kinkfic"! Couldn't tell the difference. Can you say, "projection?" Where are these girls' meds?)

So there won't be any more stories from me. In fact, you're lucky *this* one ever saw the light of day. Had I posted it under my real name originally, I think we all realize it would have been flamed to a crisp before anyone ever read it.

But there was never any question about owning it eventually -- it's mine, and I'm proud of it!

Thanks again!
Lilith, a.k.a. JEYLAN"


OMG1111!!! Jeylan really is Lilith or is Lilith really Jeylan? I am so confused! Mommie, explain it to me?

HL fans are up in arms on the ROG-L list. People take sides. Some say Jeylan had every right to post under a new pen name, that you should judge the story on its merits, not on Jeylan's rep. Others call her sockpuppet escapade basically the end all be all of the universe and the list mods should ban her ass.

The most vocal person is Ev_vy, who on her LJ lets loose:

"Someone posted a story as a sockpuppet. To a couple of lists. People enjoyed the story. Tastes differ. I thought it was bad. Mediocre. Even if the story was good, the person under the sockpuppet identity should be stoned to death. Or should the quality of a fic be enough of an excuse to allow a fucking sockpuppet posts stories to lists? Should banned people be allowed to post as sockpuppets on the condition that their stories are good? Who decides that the story is good enough? Should the readers take a vote? Should the readers with no literary taste whatsoever take a vote and decide that a sockpuppet's story is good enough to be allowed onlist?

I'm sorry if I offend some people who sent me feedback. I don't believe a single word of praise you sent me."


Does this mean that if you take Jeylan's side on list and Ev_vy won't believe you if you send her positive feedback because you are now Jeylan's whore/bitch?

Can it get any wankier or should we all repeat the 8th grade?

EDIT:I corrected the ROG-L link and it should now work for people to join. It is not a restricted list, but you must be a member to read archives.



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[info]pyratejenni
2004-10-05 05:25 am UTC (link)
Yahoo Groups says there's no ROG_L list. And ROG-L brings up groups in foreign languages. Help?

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(Anonymous)
2004-10-10 03:46 am UTC (link)
...I love your icon. Mind if I steal it for my American friends? Though hopefully in a few weeks' time they won't need it.

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[info]kijikun
2004-10-05 05:55 am UTC (link)
Some of the posts are also on D/M list but have been pretty civil.

Otherwise I'm staying the hell out of it.

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(Anonymous)
2004-10-05 06:18 am UTC (link)
I'm sure we're all grateful for that.

Taz

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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-10-05 06:38 am UTC

[info]wordjunkie
2004-10-05 05:59 am UTC (link)
What? Oh god... my mind... the contradictions...

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[info]kamil
2004-10-05 06:01 am UTC (link)
I missed this Jaylan chick her first time round HL fandom; I was offline at the time and apparently missed out on quite the good time.

So far she's not nearly as wanky as her rep would lead one to believe, but perhaps she'll live up to her name before all is said and done.

*keeps a good thought

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[info]hotpinkdragones
2004-10-05 06:44 pm UTC (link)
Oh, just wait.

Sometimes she does take a couple of months to build up a true wank explosion.

But when it occurs, it is truly memorable.

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[info]robinterrae
2004-10-05 06:08 am UTC (link)
Completely unrelated to the wank, but I love your icon.

The world needs more Jim/Blair.

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[info]cesare
2004-10-05 06:11 am UTC (link)
Cut tag please?

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(Anonymous)
2004-10-05 08:07 am UTC (link)
*snorts* Nothing wrong with using a sockpuppet to post fics If that was what , though Lilith aka Jeylan was acting pretty wanky with that email of hers *shakes head*

Although, I thought Ev_vy's post was wankier

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(Anonymous)
2004-10-05 09:28 am UTC (link)
How can a pen name be considered a sock?

Stephen King, Dean Koontz, Anne Rice all wrote under pen names and I don't hear anyone screaming 'sockpuppet.'

In fandom I can think of the following people who have changed their pen names to suit their fandoms:

Alyjude (Sentinel) = Sideburns (Stargate)
Honi Soit (due South) = Crushergal (Highlander) = Tritorella (Highlander/Anime) = Ann Somerville (Original fic)
Francesca (Sentinel) = Speranza (due South)


What makes Jeylan/Lilith any different?

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(no subject) - [info]panthea, 2004-10-05 04:39 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-10-05 09:52 am UTC (link)
"Even if the story was good, the person under the sockpuppet identity should be stoned to death"

Fucked. In. The. HEAD.

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(no subject) - [info]tyraarane_, 2004-10-06 01:18 am UTC

[info]belafarinrod
2004-10-05 12:37 pm UTC (link)
Buh? Okay, the e-mail was pretty wanky but I can sympathize with the feeling of going "neener, I DO write well you prejudiced bastards, you just hate me!"

Why is it wrong to change an internet-name? I constantly run into people I discovere that I already knew from another fandom, under a different name...

Besides - reality check please - this is the net. Fandom even. It's not as if she showed up with a faked ID and tried to scam them.

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[info]ev_vy
2004-10-05 01:06 pm UTC (link)
Hm. No point in pretending I don't know about making it to f_w. *shrugs*

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[info]maryavatar
2004-10-05 02:30 pm UTC (link)
And this is why I'm no-mail on all the Highlander lists. I'm pretty lucky, I suppose. The two Duncan/Methos stories I've written got nothing but praise, despite the first one being pretty mediocre. I had no idea that Highlander was a fandom famous for eating newbies and spitting out the teeth when I started out. Good thing I posted everything under my 'main' fanfic name, Moonloon, and not my Ebil Seekwet Identiteh, Vesper.

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(no subject) - [info]kadira, 2004-10-05 02:58 pm UTC
OT icon love - (Anonymous), 2004-10-05 04:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]visp, 2004-10-05 07:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2004-10-05 09:11 pm UTC

[info]mistressrenet
2004-10-05 02:56 pm UTC (link)
This seems to be the sanest thing I've seen so far; that the thing that pissed people off was not the sockpuppeting but the 'neener neener neener' attitude they felt when she revealed herself.

Mostly, I'm just glad I'm not in the HL fandom.

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(no subject) - [info]naienko, 2004-10-05 07:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-05 07:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]naienko, 2004-10-05 07:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-05 07:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jerel, 2004-10-06 02:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-06 03:06 am UTC
Wank link?
(Anonymous)
2004-10-05 03:57 pm UTC (link)
I've been trying to find the chakras wank from the last time Jeylan and highlander got on this board. Can someone point me to it? It was a good one.

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(Anonymous)
2004-10-05 05:24 pm UTC (link)
HL fans who stalk monitor Jeylan's activities were trying to expose her as 'Lillith' at least a week before this incident. They called it poking the troll:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/evildrem/68742.html

They are cackling about how much fun it is to wind her up and watch her babble like an idiot here (http://www.livejournal.com/users/evildrem/70350.html).

*headdesk*

I thought you don't feed trolls to make them go away? Now, you poke them? I must have missed that memo.

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[info]visp
2004-10-05 07:19 pm UTC (link)
Well, seeing as almost all names used on the internet, especially on fiction sites, are pennames (no, it doesn't say Visp on my passport) I can't see why this is such a big deal.

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(no subject) - [info]jood, 2004-10-05 08:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]enkogneatoh, 2004-10-06 02:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]threegoldfish, 2004-10-06 08:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sir_hellsing, 2004-10-05 10:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]visp, 2004-10-06 03:49 am UTC

[info]sir_hellsing
2004-10-05 10:04 pm UTC (link)
Brain does not compute. If the fic was decent... why the author matters? Everyone improves within time (or get worse like Hamilton and Rice). I have no idea of this fandom but this [info]ev_vy person scares me.

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[info]ladyrogue
2004-10-05 10:56 pm UTC (link)
*snaps fingers* I was a day late on this wank. I didn't pay the posts any mind until I noticed the Admin. posts. Admin on D_M usually signals wankery is afoot.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-10-05 11:21 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-10-06 02:36 am UTC (link)
Well, I think all this mess is pretty fun to watch (yes, I do kick over anthills; why do you ask?) but to me the most wankish thing about this it is had been six months since Jeylan/Lilith last posted in the fandom before this.

Not six days, not six weeks, SIX MONTH.

I know revenge is a dish best served cold, but isn't that a long time to hold a grudge over fanfic?

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[info]enkogneatoh
2004-10-06 02:42 am UTC (link)
Penname wank aside, I must say Jeylan does love stealing her diatribes from herself. How many fandoms is it now where she's made some pronouncement that such-and-such character is being mistreated by the fandom, that she's the only one who knows their True Selves, and that since no one appreciates them or her, OMG she's taking her totally out-of-character fanfic and going home?

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[info]nostalgia
2004-10-06 08:22 am UTC (link)
So what did Jeylan do to piss people off anyway?

:outside this fandom, being confused:

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(no subject) - [info]enkogneatoh, 2004-10-06 08:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]enkogneatoh, 2004-10-06 08:56 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-10-06 11:08 am UTC
New wank - Jeylan tossed
[info]alison
2004-10-07 01:18 am UTC (link)
New wank from ROG-L list.

List admin, Suze posts that Jeylan has been booted from the ROG-L list because of her note to that list decrying the sins and fucked-up-ness of the fandom. Juicy parts....

"Jeylan is going to have to find somewhere else to bitch and moan about how fucked up HL fandom is. This list is a place for discussion of Methos and HL. It never has been, and will not become, a place to unload spiteful bitterness about fandom personalities. There are places in fandom designed specifically for that purpose -- this is not one of them.

Jeylan has been unsubbed from this list."



*weeps*

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Re: New wank - Jeylan tossed - [info]kijikun, 2004-10-07 08:59 pm UTC
Re: New wank - Jeylan tossed - (Anonymous), 2004-10-07 10:10 pm UTC
Re: New wank - Jeylan tossed - [info]kijikun, 2004-10-08 12:28 am UTC

 
   
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