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seto_fangirl ([info]seto_fangirl) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2004-10-07 02:49:00


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Current mood:Amazed

Ah, some more choice wank from that crazy little fandom we know as Harry Potter...
Over on Mugglenet.com, a news story about Mira Nair being offered the directors chair for Order of the Phoenix and having to think about it has spawned two SEPERATE wank streams.

First off, we have the group that are "OMG!!!!!!!!! HOW CAN SHE NOT
WANT TO DEVOTE HER LIFE TO HARRY POTTER?!?!?!!!!111!!" and wank about
how if she needs to think about it, they don't want her directing the movie.


Posted by: Bunny
I'm not sure I would want someone who has to "think" about it
to direct OOTP. I want someone who WANTS(!!!!!) to direct it. If it takes
her this long to decide, how long will it take her to film one setup. Naw
I hope they offer it to someone who really wants it.


Posted by: m
I think she sounds snobby. I agree with the others that posted: WB should
get someone who wants to direct it. Not someone who has to decide whether
it will be could enough for them. All three movies have done really well
and I am sure the fourth one will be no different.
And I didn't like Vanity Fair. So that might also be why I think WB should look for someone else.


Posted by: Rwraith
If she isn't sure she wants to devote 2 years to HP then she shouldn't
do it. She probably hasn't even read the books.


Posted by: Amanda
She's crazy, who wouldn't want to do harry potter? Get a lot of money.
I hope she says no; I don't want her to say 'yes' because she won't really
put any determination in it, most likely. which will make the movie suck.



Then we get into the real meat of the wank here. It stems from the fact
that Mugglenet staffer, Emerson, used a rather witty comment from "The
Daily Show" to specify that Nair was India indian and not Native American
Indian.

From Emersons Post:Nair "weighing and wondering" whether to do OOTP movie
From a Straits Times interview with Indian (Gandhi, not Sitting Bull) filmmaker Mira Nair:

It seems that the some of the fans get riled up, and call Emerson racist
for using that remark, while others jump in telling people to calm down
and get over it.

Posted by: Sirius Bloke
SHAME ON YOU, MUGGLENET!
It's bad enough that you "mark" Nair's ethnicity by calling her "Indian," but then you further qualify it with "Ghandi, not Sitting Bull." What century are we living in? Whether Nair is white, black, red, yellow, brown or green -- WHO CARES?
Net time you refer to Mike Newell, I hope you will call him "White Male Director Mike Newell." If you;re going to discriminate, please do so even-handedly.


Posted by: Izzi
Whoa, Sirius Bloke. Calm down. No one was marking anyone. I'm Indian. Do
I feel offended when my friends introduce me to their camp friends "This
is Izz. She goes to my school. She's Indian."? No! CALM DOWN.
Anyways, I think it would be really cool if she directed, as Akasha said, seeing a different perspective is good, and not to be sexist, but you can't help but admit we females think a little differently sometimes. Which would be interesting. I just don't know how anyone can have second thoughts about doing Harry Potter, despite the fact it is a huge feat to pull off. People have such high standards these days.


Posted by: pelican
Should posts like the above be allowed? I mean, I didn't see the above
person criticising Mugglenet for calling Alfonso Curaon "Mexican".
Which they did about 1000 times. By your standards, that is also racism.
They referred to the actress who will play Fleur(I forget her name) as
"French" - that must be racism as well.
Last I checked, if you were born in India, you are "Indian", just as I am British, because I was born in Britain.
Oh wait sorry, calling myself British must also be racism. I'd better stop before someone bans me for being racist towards myself...


Posted by: offended
rather than generalizing indian's by ghandi and sitting bull, putting native american or east asian would be more appropriate-don't you think?
i am a bit offended to think that people would only know my culture by sitting bull...


Posted by: Sirius Bloke
Well, I do think marking ethnicity is a very subtle form of racism, but that's really beside the point. I think that "Ghandi, not Sitting Bull" is degrading, even if Ghandi and Sitting Bull are heroes in their own culture.
Think about it -- Do we say "British (Winston Churchill) director"
Mike Newell" or "American (Babe Ruth) director Chris Columbus?"
-- no, and I'd bet that their White Maleness has something to do with it.


Posted by: offended
i am native american and find your sitting bull comment offensive.

Posted by: Piranha
Mugglenet, you are tarnishing your wonderful reputation with silly and insensitive comments like "Gandhi, not Sitting Bull". I find the comment highly offensive. It can't hurt you to be a bit more mature in posting news.
I am not indian myself, and still feel that the comment was way out of line.


Posted by: Mars
I found it wierd how MOST of the people who find these comments offensive are people who are not from that nationality. I'm indian and I don't find it offensive...Then again I'm used to brown jokes...lol

Posted by: colleen
I'm kind of schocked at the Indian comment that Emerson posted. It has really lowerd him in my eyes. It was way out of line.

Posted by: man
you guys are all idiots. that running bull joke is tasteless. the person who used the Babe Ruth/winston churchill analogy said it perfectly. If you guys said black director and wrote (Oprah), you'd get hate mail from half the NAACP. so shut the hell up.
and who cares if Nair said she doesn't want to give up 2 years of her life. big deal, jk rowling takes tons of time off, you guys don't baby about that.


And then some bonus mind boggling from the department of "Omg, you
have got to be kidding me......"

Posted by: news
isn't gandi like someone in like asia or africa somting like that i know ive heard the name somwhere just cant put my finger on it...

Posted by: hymo
what does the sitting bull mean?

Posted by: zack
gandi is dead and i kno he wasent liven in canada thats all i kno

And to think, these are just from the first page or so of comments....I got too scared to venture much further.

ETA:Edited to fix my really screwy formatting....



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[info]dawnswalker
2004-10-07 09:54 am UTC (link)
"OMG!!!!!!!!! HOW CAN SHE NOT
WANT TO DEVOTE HER LIFE TO HARRY POTTER?!?!?!!!!111!!"


Simple. She eats babies.

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(no subject) - [info]squib, 2004-10-07 09:59 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]snacky, 2004-10-07 08:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]suzycat, 2004-10-08 10:32 am UTC

[info]ladysorka
2004-10-07 10:02 am UTC (link)
gandi is dead and i kno he wasent liven in canada thats all i kno

...they're scaring me, Mommy!

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(no subject) - [info]seto_fangirl, 2004-10-07 10:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nights_mistress, 2004-10-07 10:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2004-10-07 11:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]beccastareyes, 2004-10-07 06:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]goldberry, 2004-10-08 06:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-10-07 08:06 pm UTC

[info]llama_treats
2004-10-07 10:10 am UTC (link)
And all this time I thought Kevin Costner played Ghandi in "Dances with Wolves".

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(no subject) - [info]darkwitch666, 2004-10-07 10:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2004-10-07 10:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]llama_treats, 2004-10-07 11:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2004-10-07 11:59 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]beccastareyes, 2004-10-07 06:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hystericalblond, 2004-10-07 06:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]beccastareyes, 2004-10-07 07:11 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]beccastareyes, 2004-10-07 07:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hystericalblond, 2004-10-07 07:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkrose, 2004-10-09 09:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pokecheck, 2004-10-12 02:23 pm UTC
Dudgeon is my favorite drug OMG!!
[info]serai
2004-10-07 10:13 am UTC (link)
I've said it before and I'll say it again: give most people a choice between getting offended and not getting offended, and they'll choose to get offended every time.

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[info]kyuuketsukirui
2004-10-07 10:35 am UTC (link)
Hee, I've always heard it "dot, not feather".

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(no subject) - [info]zarla, 2004-10-07 07:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kyuuketsukirui, 2004-10-08 12:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mydemand, 2004-10-08 07:37 am UTC

[info]evieangelique
2004-10-07 11:20 am UTC (link)
isn't gandi like someone in like asia or africa somting like that i know ive heard the name somwhere just cant put my finger on it...

*boggles* *goes out for coffee* *comes back* *still boggling* O_O

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(no subject) - [info]jaig, 2004-10-07 02:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bubosquared, 2004-10-07 08:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dawnswalker, 2004-10-08 09:23 am UTC

[info]adora_spintriae
2004-10-07 11:26 am UTC (link)
Oh sweet mother...
And here I was sitting around going "Woe, for where art my HP wank?". And then I get 3 posts of it in a day.

JOY!

This whole kerfuffle makes me think someone needs to do a Bollywood HP fic where everyone dances and sings and wears shimmery costumes. I would so fucking pay to see that and feed my Bollywood and HP addiction at the same time.

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(no subject) - [info]romanesque, 2004-10-07 11:31 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-10-07 11:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ruaha56, 2004-10-07 12:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dreamtoday, 2004-10-07 01:54 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2004-10-07 11:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bakunina, 2004-10-07 05:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]coffee_mug, 2004-10-07 09:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2004-10-08 12:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]coffee_mug, 2004-10-07 02:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ruaha56, 2004-10-07 02:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]coffee_mug, 2004-10-07 02:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2004-10-07 11:56 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2004-10-08 12:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettypinkkitty, 2004-10-07 05:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]coffee_mug, 2004-10-07 07:35 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]coffee_mug, 2004-10-08 05:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettypinkkitty, 2004-10-09 12:45 pm UTC
icon love <3 - [info]plazmah, 2004-10-09 05:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mydemand, 2004-10-08 07:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]firebird5, 2004-10-08 06:21 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]rossywar, 2004-10-08 04:43 pm UTC

[info]andsoyoudied
2004-10-07 12:43 pm UTC (link)
She probably hasn't even read the books.

But JK Rowling still loves her.

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(no subject) - [info]here4tehwank, 2004-10-08 06:39 pm UTC

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(no subject) - [info]seto_fangirl, 2004-10-07 02:46 pm UTC
OT
[info]wickedcherub
2004-10-07 12:50 pm UTC (link)
hee fandom. I love it how this place is up whenever LiveJournal isn't and LJ is always up when JournalFen isn't.

I don't know what I'd do if they were both down at once.

Right now LiveJournal is down. *shivers*

*retches*

Damn withdrawl symptoms.

What is this 'real life' of which you speak?


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*sniff* - [info]ruaha56, 2004-10-07 01:50 pm UTC
Re: OT - [info]toxictattoo, 2004-10-07 02:13 pm UTC
Re: OT - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-07 02:33 pm UTC
(y) - [info]wickedcherub, 2004-10-07 02:44 pm UTC
Re: (y) - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-07 03:08 pm UTC
Re: OT - [info]wickedcherub, 2004-10-07 02:43 pm UTC

[info]ruaha56
2004-10-07 01:54 pm UTC (link)
From a Straits Times interview with Indian (Gandhi, not Sitting Bull) filmmaker Mira Nair:

*reads*

*is not offended*

*reads again*

Damn, still not offended! It's all Gandhi's fault!

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(no subject) - [info]toxictattoo, 2004-10-07 02:14 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]toxictattoo, 2004-10-07 04:44 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2004-10-07 07:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]deoridhe, 2004-10-07 07:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jaig, 2004-10-07 07:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]deoridhe, 2004-10-07 07:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-10-08 02:32 pm UTC

[info]coffee_mug
2004-10-07 02:25 pm UTC (link)
"East Asian"? What the FUCK.

I think the Mugglenet could've phrased the thing more subtly, but hey, if it's a jokey, clever reference (I've never watched Daily Show), then what the hell is the big deal?

I hope she thinks about it for a REALLY long time (think time between GoF and OotP long) and then decides TO DO IT. Just to mess with everybody's heads.

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(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-07 02:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]coffee_mug, 2004-10-07 02:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-10-07 09:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - kroki_refur, 2004-10-07 09:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - kroki_refur, 2004-10-07 09:55 pm UTC

[info]mister_terrific
2004-10-07 02:45 pm UTC (link)
OMG!!!!!!!!! HOW CAN SHE NOT
WANT TO DEVOTE HER LIFE TO HARRY POTTER?!?!?!!!!111!!"


Well, gee...probably because if she directs it in a way that even slightly differs from "the way we all know it should be done", these same ninnies will show up on her doorstep with torches and wands held high, that's all.

Frankly, I think she's very wise to take the time and consider the commitment.

Mister Terrific
Defender of Fair Play

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(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2004-10-07 03:08 pm UTC

[info]sakemaki
2004-10-07 03:03 pm UTC (link)
isn't gandi like someone in like asia or africa somting like that i know ive heard the name somwhere just cant put my finger on it...

*raises eyebrow into hairline*

what does the sitting bull mean?

*slowly backs away*

gandi is dead and i kno he wasent liven in canada thats all i kno

*turns around and runs just to get the hell away from these people*

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(no subject) - [info]mister_terrific, 2004-10-07 10:26 pm UTC

[info]smo
2004-10-07 04:47 pm UTC (link)
Am now imagining a crossover between Harry Potter and Mississippi Masala.

Am not right in the head.

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(no subject) - [info]deoridhe, 2004-10-07 05:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-10-07 07:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]deoridhe, 2004-10-07 08:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-10-08 04:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkrose, 2004-10-09 10:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]smo, 2004-10-09 10:09 pm UTC

[info]bakunina
2004-10-07 06:11 pm UTC (link)
1) Congrats to the one poster for spelling "Gandhi" correctly.

2) Apparently, some people have never played cowboys and indians (well, ok, my friends and I ignored the cowboys part and just played the indians because there were only three of us and I was a historical accuracy bitch at the age of eight, so not having anything for a cattle drive, we were just indians)

3) Mira Nair has done two films that do not involve indian characters (since she pulled part of Vanity Fair to India). She has never done a film with a large cast under legal age. Moreover, she has not done films at all that require major special effects sequences. Anyone who has no experience working with special effects and teenagers should think twice, especially when the film is outside her usual plot experience anyway.

I know, quit using earth logic.

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(no subject) - [info]jaig, 2004-10-07 07:15 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2004-10-07 07:36 pm UTC (link)
*Blinks*

*Looks at 'hoo si gandi' posts again*

*Dies a long painful death*

I knew who Gandhi was by the time I was seven. ;_; *Weeps for humanity*

And y'know... I'm obsessed with the HP books. Totally and completely obsessed. But I haven't devoted my life to them, have I? And last I checked, no one else in the world had, either. Not even JKR. Unless you truly think that she's not married with kids, because liek omg, she's devoted her life to the wonders of HP, so she must not have any distractions, or else she won't be able to churn out the books in a short period of time, because she's a machine, you know. A HP-devoted machine.

I wouldn't want to devote two years of my life to directing one of the films, either. Incredibly stressful, and it would take up those two years, with barely any break.

I'd like to see one of those 'devoted fans' try and direct a HP movie. I bet they'd be burned at the stake when (if) it came out. (Not that that would be a bad thing, mind you)

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WTF?!
[info]tinybubbles
2004-10-07 08:05 pm UTC (link)
IMO, the Babe Ruth crack was WAY more offensive than "Gandhi" or "Sitting Bull". Since when is Babe Ruth an American hero? Is that really the best they could come up with??

*cries*

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Re: WTF?! - meshou, 2004-10-07 11:00 pm UTC
Re: WTF?! - [info]tinybubbles, 2004-10-08 01:18 am UTC

[info]skarrow
2004-10-07 08:23 pm UTC (link)
I think that "Ghandi, not Sitting Bull" is degrading, even if Ghandi and Sitting Bull are heroes in their own culture.

...
....
...

..."I think that Sirius Bloke is not a moron, even if he did post that comment."

No, neither of those make sense.


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[info]feloniousfeline
2004-10-07 11:54 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for calling the I'm a Jackass in Public hotline.

To continue being offended by something trivial press one.

To make various ethnic groups and cultures wish that you were not on their side press two.

To receive a sense of reality upgrade press three.

To have a sense of humor installed press four.

For an in-depth report on how your public outbursts are being perceived by others press 0 and the operator will connect you to Fandom Wank.

Thank you.

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(no subject) - [info]selene_avis, 2004-10-08 12:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seto_fangirl, 2004-10-08 06:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rinoared, 2004-10-08 10:16 am UTC

[info]selene_avis
2004-10-07 11:58 pm UTC (link)
Well, I do think marking ethnicity is a very subtle form of racism, but that's really beside the point. I think that "Ghandi, not Sitting Bull" is degrading, even if Ghandi and Sitting Bull are heroes in their own culture.
Think about it -- Do we say "British (Winston Churchill) director"
Mike Newell" or "American (Babe Ruth) director Chris Columbus?"


Maybe because "British" and "American" are not the same word?

Mugglenet's comments system going down wasn't a computer glitch. It as a valiant attempt by the internet itself to protect its viewers from Teh Stupid.

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(no subject) - [info]mouseybrown, 2004-10-08 01:26 am UTC

[info]plazmah
2004-10-07 11:58 pm UTC (link)
I never EVER thought I would see the day that Bollywood and HP would cross-wank together. It's, just... so beautiful... *wipes tear*

*goes off to see Dhoom*

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*sniff* - [info]ruaha56, 2004-10-08 05:35 am UTC
Re: *sniff* - [info]plazmah, 2004-10-08 05:44 am UTC

[info]psychofangirl
2004-10-08 03:49 am UTC (link)
I would love to see Mira Nair direct OOTP, but I don't blame her for thinking about it. This isn't something you can just say yes to without careful forthought.

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(no subject) - teh_one, 2004-10-08 08:42 am UTC

[info]poconell
2004-10-08 05:39 am UTC (link)
gandi is dead and i kno he wasent liven in canada thats all i kno

Oh, but he was. He used to dip his bald head in maple syrup and rub it all over my body.

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(no subject) - [info]feloniousfeline, 2004-10-08 07:27 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2004-10-08 10:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]poconell, 2004-10-08 06:38 pm UTC

[info]sir_hellsing
2004-10-08 01:01 pm UTC (link)
Jesus, the world is full of morons. I cling into the hope that they were just nine years old.

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